It's sheriff levels at this point.
You’re treading water. Ghost has drowned like 3 times already but keeps coming back. I admire his fight.
It's sheriff levels at this point.
If they instigate a physical attack and I kill them, I am well within my right to do so.If somebody smacks you in the face, should you get a lighter or heavier prison sentence than them for then stabbing them in the neck?
That's called self defense for those of us who aren't poor and can hire a decent attorney.
If they instigate a physical attack and I kill them, I am well within my right to do so.
Now you're a lawyer?That would indeed be the losing argument in court. The question was about sentencing.
Source on states that don't have self defense laws?Not in most states, including the southern Red ones.
Source on states that don't have self defense laws?
Which ones?The vast majority of self-defense laws do not allow for you to escalate the level violence.
My property > petty criminal's lifeProperty < Life
The bolded part is really all I needed from you. Your posts have been coming off a lot differently than what I bolded out.It’s doesn’t matter who the blame is on. That doesn’t do anything to justify or not justify killing them.
It’s the criminal’s fault for stealing. If he gets shot, that’s partially the criminal’s fault. It’s the homeowners fault for shooting somebody for a petty crime. Trespassing by itself usually results in zero jail time. Petty theft usually results in zero jail time. Shooting somebody for doing both is a pretty fvcking big leap.
If you wound the thief, the perfectly just outcome would be a prison sentence for the homeowner for attempted murder and either a light prison sentence for the thief and/or fines and community service, depending on criminal record.
You can’t kill people to protect your stuff (different from protecting yourself). And the rules change when we’re talking about a home intruder because the underlying crime is vastly different and intent is different.
Which ones?
My property > petty criminal's life
I'm sorry you don't have nice things that you don't want stolen.Yeah, that’s pretty fvcked up. You guys take murder very seriously in one breath and then not at all seriously in another. Do you guys actually consider what it means to put a bullet in a person and then watch them bleed to death, spasming and gasping for air? Because they took a thing that insurance will replace?
The bolded part is really all I needed from you. Your posts have been coming off a lot differently than what I bolded out.
Most stand your ground laws, including Arkansas, allow an armed person to use deadly force if they believe they are in imminent danger. A slap to the face could just be the very beginning of that threat.Arkansas
California
Connecticut
Delaware
Hawaii
Iowa
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Missouri
Minnesota
Nebraska
New Jersey
New York
North Dakota
Rhode Island
Wisconsin
Wyoming
These are the low hanging fruit. For the others, I would have to dig through each state individually. Florida is the only state I know of that has allowed for deadly force when there wasn’t a threat of serious bodily harm or death.
The general principle is that you can meet force with equal force (or the force necessary to stop the threat). Stabbing somebody for slapping you would not meet that standard in most self-defense law.
I'm sorry you don't have nice things that you don't want stolen.
Most stand your ground laws, including Arkansas, allow an armed person to use deadly force if they believe they are in imminent danger. A slap to the face could just be the very beginning of that threat.
Don't get mad at me. Go back and read your prior posts. Most of them are pretty cringeworthy. Its not hard to believe the guy defending the Portland killing spree would think criminals should get away with whatever they want.Do I need to start declaring more obvious shit? How soft in the head would one need to be to think criminals have no responsibility for their actions?
Don't get mad at me. Go back and read your prior posts. Most of them are pretty cringeworthy. Its not hard to believe the guy defending the Portland killing spree would think criminals should get away with whatever they want.
Others disagree. Or else we wouldn't be having this discussion.Who defended the Portland killing spree? I know I didn’t. None of my posts come close to what you are saying. I know you can read.
That's a simplistic way of putting it. But lil brooke just thinks that people should continually have to pay deductibles every time a piece of shit thief takes your stuff. Who is going to make an insurance claim and have their rates go up every year because you live in a shithole where it is excusable for thieves to run free with no repercussions? Judge just dismisses their case and you're out whatever they took from you. It is no wonder the places riddled with crime are liberal shitholes. They side with the criminal every time.I'm sorry you don't have nice things that you don't want stolen.
Others disagree. Or else we wouldn't be having this discussion.
That's a simplistic way of putting it. But lil brooke just thinks that people should continually have to pay deductibles every time a piece of shit thief takes your stuff. Who is going to make an insurance claim and have their rates go up every year because you live in a shithole where it is excusable for thieves to run free with no repercussions? Judge just dismisses their case and you're out whatever they took from you. It is no wonder the places riddled with crime are liberal shitholes. They side with the criminal every time.
I don't want people losing their lives for petty shit. I want them to have real deterrents in place to keep them from preying on LACs. If they had a real fear of being shot, they'd probably stay off of that property. If not, they made their choices.
Liberals do not agree with what can be considered an imminent threat or a perceived threat to one's life. They have a tendency to rewrite laws to fit their own stupid beliefs.Most stand your ground laws, including Arkansas, allow an armed person to use deadly force if they believe they are in imminent danger. A slap to the face could just be the very beginning of that threat.
I agree and I mean if you're walking out with random shit from my house that's of little value I'm not shooting you, but if you're trying to jack my car you can enjoy catching some bullets. Brooky is acting like we're trigger happy and hoping somebody robs us.That's a simplistic way of putting it. But lil brooke just thinks that people should continually have to pay deductibles every time a piece of shit thief takes your stuff. Who is going to make an insurance claim and have their rates go up every year because you live in a shithole where it is excusable for thieves to run free with no repercussions? Judge just dismisses their case and you're out whatever they took from you. It is no wonder the places riddled with crime are liberal shitholes. They side with the criminal every time.
I don't want people losing their lives for petty shit. I want them to have real deterrents in place to keep them from preying on LACs. If they had a real fear of being shot, they'd probably stay off of that property. If not, they made their choices.
I know you're getting worked up, that's okay. Your quote wasOthers are idiots I guess. I don’t even know what you mean by “defended the Portland killing spree.” By pointing out the stats?
I’m sorry for..... stats?
Hmmmm, well people have been slapped hard enough to make them fall over and split their head on the pavement and die, so.....Imminent danger of serious bodily harm or death. A slap to the face would not count.
Read a little better, dipshit. They get arrested, go to court, judge throws out their case and you are without your shit. It happens this way more than not.Who said anything about no repercussions? You don’t have police where you live?
Oh no! Were they defunded?!
Liberals do not agree with what can be considered an imminent threat or a perceived threat to one's life. They have a tendency to rewrite laws to fit their own stupid beliefs.
I know you're getting worked up, that's okay. Your quote was
"Portland’s murder rate was very low to start with, so it’s easy to see a big jump."
I'm not sure how any more clear I can be. You defended it like its something that just happens. That big of an increase isn't supposed to be how things work. But ya know, hey, its easy to see a big jump.
Are you seriously challenging his expertise in self defense laws?Hmmmm, well people have been slapped hard enough to make them fall over and split their head on the pavement and die, so.....
Hmmmm, well people have been slapped hard enough to make them fall over and split their head on the pavement and die, so.....
Are you seriously challenging his expertise in self defense laws?
Popcorn ready!
Read a little better, dipshit. They get arrested, go to court, judge throws out their case and you are without your shit. It happens this way more than not.
Also, I am still laughing at your idea that people are supposed to pay an insurance deductible and pay extra in increased rates because some piece of shit wants something they paid for.