Okay folks, help me out a stats and comparison question

[TheDude1]

Okay guys, help me out with a disagreement...

This is somewhat hypothetical, but give me your input.

Let's say you have two basketball players.

One played 1600 games. (Again, this is theoretical, so ignore the unrealistically huge numbers)

One played 4000 games.

They played literally the exact same minutes per game in every game, played with the exact same teammates, and played against the exact same level of competition.

Neither one got older or younger or anything; age played no role in their stats (this is, again, theoretical).

Can you compare their per game stats in some meaningful way, since they played the same number of minutes and the stats are per game? Or does the fact that the one guy played more games somehow make the stats unable to be compared? If the raw number of games DOES make it impossible to compare them, how does it?

Thanks!

 

[WojoRising]

Well, since it’s an insanely high sample size for both they’re absolutely comparable.

The only time it wouldn’t be is if one of them played, like, 5 games.

 

[I am stupid]

It doesn't make it impossible, but the person with more games should have better stats due to experience and adjustments.

If they are equal, the first 1600 games a piece would leave equal stats. After those 1600 the player still playing should continue to improve.



Unless of course the player stayed the exact same stats wise games 1600-4000. Then you could say it was a completely fair comparison.

 

[JimboBBN]

Laughing

 

[tw3301]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is a OAD player vs a 4 year player argument.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Okay guys, help me out with a disagreement...

This is somewhat hypothetical, but give me your input.

Let's say you have two basketball players.

One played 1600 games. (Again, this is theoretical, so ignore the unrealistically huge numbers)

One played 4000 games.

They played literally the exact same minutes per game in every game, played with the exact same teammates, and played against the exact same level of competition.

Neither one got older or younger or anything; age played no role in their stats (this is, again, theoretical).

Can you compare their per game stats in some meaningful way, since they played the same number of minutes and the stats are per game? Or does the fact that the one guy played more games somehow make the stats unable to be compared? If the raw number of games DOES make it impossible to compare them, how does it?

Thanks!

That's a good question. What do you think?

 

[TheDude1]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is a OAD player vs a 4 year player argument.

Actually, it's not. OAD vs 4 year, there is the whole age thing involved and all of that. This is more theoretical than that... more a stats question. Your thoughts? Are you able to compare, say, the assists per game of each player in some way, or does the fact that one player played three times as many games make the stats unable to be compared?

That's a good question. What do you think?

You first

Laughing

Yep

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Actually, it's not. OAD vs 4 year, there is the whole age thing involved and all of that. This is more theoretical than that. Your thoughts? Are



You first



Yep

Sorry man, I;m pretty ****ed up. I fortot what we're talking about and too lazy to look back. Instead I just type this not Knowing.

 

[TheDude1]

Sorry man, I;m pretty ****ed up. I fortot what we're talking about and too lazy to look back. Instead I just type this not Knowing.

It is Thursday at 12:30 and you are pretty ****ed up? Either things are AWESOME for you, or things are REALLY BAD. Not sure which

 

[JimboBBN]

Sorry man, I;m pretty ****ed up. I fortot what we're talking about and too lazy to look back. Instead I just type this not Knowing.

12:30 on a Thursday? Nice man

 

[lurkeraspect84]

12:30 on a Thursday? Nice man

It's 11:30 here.

 

[JimboBBN]

It's 11:30 here.

You seem like someone I would like to party with.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

You seem like someone I would like to party with.

Famous last words.

 

[TheDude1]

It's 11:30 here.

Even better!








Or even worse. Not sure, still.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Even better!








Or even worse. Not sure, still.

One day you'll be able to decide.

BTW, what do you think of when I type Larson?

 

[Dattier]

Everything else being equal, averages make the # of games irrelevant.

 

[JimboBBN]

Everything else being equal, averages make the # of games irrelevant.

I agree unless the number of games of one player is extremely small compared to the next. However, in OPs example, you are correct. 1600 games is more than enough to get a good average

 

[JimboBBN]

Even better!








Or even worse. Not sure, still.

Its the Grayson Allen avatar. Dude is drinking himself to death because of it

 

[Dattier]

I agree unless the number of games of one player is extremely small compared to the next. However, in OPs example, you are correct. 1600 games is more than enough to get a good average

Yes, as long as the sample size qualifies. I'd say 1600 definitely does.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Its the Grayson Allen avatar. Dude is drinking himself to death because of it

 

[tw3301]

Actually, it's not. OAD vs 4 year, there is the whole age thing involved and all of that. This is more theoretical than that... more a stats question. Your thoughts? Are you able to compare, say, the assists per game of each player in some way, or does the fact that one player played three times as many games make the stats unable to be compared?

I don't know, if we're going to do hypotheticals though I'd rather discuss how many silverback gorillas it would take to beat me in a fight.

 

[TheDude1]

One day you'll be able to decide.

BTW, what do you think of when I type Larson?

 

[tw3301]

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I watched that documentary on HBO last night, pretty interesting.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

I watched that documentary on HBO last night, pretty interesting.

I'd rank it as

1a Lemmy
1b Andre the Giant