***Official Transfer Thread***
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I actually agree with this. College basketball hasn’t been “pure” for a long time, at least now a wider range of schools will have top-end talent.
All things equal, sure, I’d love the days of 4-year players and round robin conference schedules. That’s gone, though, and we may as well lean into it.
Do y’all not think this will essentially be the end of the mid major Cinderella stories in March. GRad transfers made it hard enough on mid major, now allowing any player to transfer without sitting.
I see it as the beginning of the end for mid majors. I see no way a true mid major could maintain success under this format. Guess we will see.
I see it as the beginning of the end for mid majors. I see no way a true mid major could maintain success under this format. Guess we will see.
and for every player who leaves a mid major to move up the ladder there will be a player getting replaced at that P6 school who will then be looking to move down the ladder.
Plenty of freshmen and young players get stuck on the bench these days, not sure what you're talking about there. Maybe not too many of the elite of the elite, but plenty of guys who were 4 and 3 stars. Heck, look at UNC this year? They tried stashing that freshman and now he's at Auburn.
yea I don't see a downside to this at all.
Why do you think having all the top end talent transfer to the P6 will lead to a wider range of schools with high end talent. To me it will be even less. I mean we’ve got Marshall’s starting PG transferring to Louisville, without even being sure if he will be the starter or if carlik comes back he will be the backup.
hearing that Cameron Krutwig might stick around for another year of college, but will follow his coach to Oklahoma to do it.
If that happens that's a huge get for OU. Would love to see a whole season of Krutwig playing in a good conference. He's a joy to watch play. Like a mini, poor mans but fatter Jokic.
If that happens that's a huge get for OU. Would love to see a whole season of Krutwig playing in a good conference. He's a joy to watch play. Like a mini, poor mans but fatter Jokic.
Yea the good mid majors will move up while the under whelming P5 players will move down, and you think that will even out talent wise? And mid majors won’t suffer dramatically from this? I guess we can agree to disagree. Like I said, P6 programs are plucking mid majors best players without them even knowing whether they will start at their new school or not.
And while Walker Kessler is very talented, he wasn’t being “stashed” to keep him from going pro. He had a few really good games, but dude wasn’t hardly Dirk sittin over there on the bench. He wasn’t getting clock bc the players on the roster ahead of him were better players at this point in their careers. And they were all much much farther along physically.
Because it’s not just good mid-major players transferring to Louisville. There’s also a lot of high-major players who didn’t get ideal minutes more easily leaving for smaller schools.
One left. (two if Jackson stays)
Suprised to see askew land on his feet at TX. Figured he was Pac12 bound, not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Has Fletcher announced where he’s transferring to?
For as much crap as cal has gotten for usually not retaining anyone, he should be given credit this year, esp if he can keep that core of big men together. I don’t see how there’s gonna be enough mins for everyone, but that’s always a good problem to have I suppose.
And if Shannon doesn't go pro, I'd expect him to potentially do the same. He reached out to staffs in December about potentially transferring.
I totally understand this. What I’m saying is, it’s not an equal ratio. It’s doesn’t much matter if a former 5 star transfers to a mid major if he’s played his entire college career like a 3 star player. That’s “high end” talent, but it’s not the same.
We will keep this to Louisville, keep it simple. Last year we lost a former 4 star guard Darius Perry, transferred down a level to ucf. Now we got carlik Jones, Radfords best player, their conf player of year, etc etc.
Now who benefitted more from this trade off? The mid major ucf who added a former top 75 recruit who averaged 10 ppg for ucf. Or Louisville whose transfer from radford ended up being all acc and a finalist for conference player of the year.
How anyone could possibly think this rule is just as beneficial to mid majors, or even in the same stratosphere, as it is P6 teams is beyond me.
Not to mention most of the best mid majors ever were senior heavy teams who “grew” together over the course of their college careers.
Problem is that every freshman in the top 150 thinks they deserve a lot of minutes from day one and a lot of them don't.
But a lot of times these players play better at mid-majors than they did buried on the bench. Nobody’s saying it’ll be “just as beneficial” for mid-major teams. Newsflash, college basketball will always favor the giants. This is no different.
That doesn’t mean it’s exclusively good for high-majors. Sometimes it’s about a mid-major finding pieces they typically wouldn’t have access to rather than finding superstars.
If you think Christian Brown, Taeshon Cherry, DJ Harvey, Gerald Liddell, Will Baker, Jermarl Baker, Raequan Battle, etc (these guys are just placeholder examples) aren't going to have a much bigger impact at their new schools than P6 schools then I guess you’re entitled to that opinion.
Not every mid-major is losing their best player. You’re stuck in a vacuum where this happened at Louisville so it has to always happen everywhere. Of course this will be horrible for some mid-majors and some high-majors, it’s not going to always be horrible for every single mid-major team, though.
I do like the Jokic comparison. I made that same comparison before the start of the season. Krutwig would be a HUGE get for Oklahoma.
I'm happy with the transfers in vs. transfers out for UVA so far.
I like Jayden Gardner (ECU) more than I like Justin McKoy (UNC)
I like Armaan Franklin (Indiana) more than I like Casey Morsell (NC State)
The only transfer out that we have yet to replace is Abdur-Rahim (Georgia). I see that as the biggest loss so far.
Also, we may need to add someone if Murphy stays in the draft. That would be a really big loss.
UVA will look very different next year. Should be tougher defensively and more balanced offensively though. I like our potential if Murphy remains.
I like Jayden Gardner (ECU) more than I like Justin McKoy (UNC)
I like Armaan Franklin (Indiana) more than I like Casey Morsell (NC State)
The only transfer out that we have yet to replace is Abdur-Rahim (Georgia). I see that as the biggest loss so far.
Also, we may need to add someone if Murphy stays in the draft. That would be a really big loss.
UVA will look very different next year. Should be tougher defensively and more balanced offensively though. I like our potential if Murphy remains.
I prefer the example of Semi Ojeleye instead. Big time recruit didn't work out at Duke, transferred to SMU and became a star. I think we'll see a lot more of that with the new transfer rule.
Look at Grimes at Houston. Helped turn that team into a F4 team, but started out as a top 10 recruit for Kansas.
You see that as a problem and I see it as an opportunity for a lesser school to get some of those top 150 players who normally wouldn't look at them.
No I’m just saying the impact those guys will have at their new school is no where near as significant as the number of mid major teams losing their best player to a P5 program.
That’s certainly an opinion you’re entitled to. I guess we’ll see how it all unfolds
Yea but AAC isn’t a traditional mid major conference, imo. Those are two very good examples though, of guys transferring down and succeeding.
Now I can name 4-5 from Louisville alone Over the past 4-5 years. Damion Lee, trey Lewis, Christian Cunningham, Fresh Kimble, Charles mineland, Carlik Jones..... now west from Marshall. That’s 7 different mid majors that we took their best player the past 5-6 years. If you don’t have to wait till you graduate to transfer without sitting, it’s just gonna get worse.
I mean I get it, and your not wrong. I just don’t think it weighs out in the end, and I don’t think it’s even close, but just my opinion.
You're going to love Armaan Franklin. He's going to fit in on day one at Virginia.
Another blue blood just lost a top 20 recruit. Kansas and Thompson. Where's he gonna go?
yea I love this shit. This is totally gonna keep the blue bloods in check. You go out and do all your recruiting off the McDonalds AA team you're gonna end up with kids with big egos who all think they are on their way to being the next superstar. You don't play to that ego you're gonna end up just upsetting those kids and watching them jump ship.
yea I love this shit. This is totally gonna keep the blue bloods in check. You go out and do all your recruiting off the McDonalds AA team you're gonna end up with kids with big egos who all think they are on their way to being the next superstar. You don't play to that ego you're gonna end up just upsetting those kids and watching them jump ship.
and isn't that enough? That's why we follow this stuff, right? To be entertained. And like you said, this is very entertaining. It's like the NBA free agency period, but on a much larger scale.
I feel like Roy knew this sooner than others, which is probably also why so many kids stayed longer than expected. He found kids without the egos and without the handlers, or at least tried his best to. Cal on the other hand... I'm sure this doesn't fit every instance, but generally speaking I feel it does. For instance, I know Roy lost out on studs to Cal and K plenty of times. Just saying, Roy was always known to shy away from kids with handlers, and for this very reason I'm sure.
Thanks for staying away from John Wall. Winking
Wait, are you a Peoria guy, too?? Haha. Anyway, most people I have read are predicting he actually comes back to Illinois, but I am not so sure. He started every single game on a top 5 team that would still be very good next year with his return (and potentially JUST as good if Kofi stays, too), and next year's team would heavily feature him as a star, with no Ayo ... and that clearly didn't make it a no-brainer for him, so I am skeptical.
Would love to have him back, not just because I think he's primed for an awesome sophomore year but also because it's nice to have a Peoria star on the roster.
Originally. Live outside of it now. I just know he wants to go bigger, which sounds silly considering Illinois’ season. He was tied to Kansas originally (early hs), but Jerrance left for Texas, so who knows now. Heard UK could be in play too. We’ll see.
Greg Brown is giving off mixed messages.
His uncle Roderick Anderson played for Tom Penders when Chris Beard was a student manager.
It was his uncle who trained him. His Dad was a Football guy
They are loyal to Texas. Even his mom ran track at Texas. But Anderson and the older Greg Brown came from bad poverty in Baton Rouge.
University of Texas gave them a lot.
So we will see.
If he goes pro. You possibly could see them go after Adam Miller
Bryce Hamilton is another. He is Jordan Hamilton's cousin.
His uncle Roderick Anderson played for Tom Penders when Chris Beard was a student manager.
It was his uncle who trained him. His Dad was a Football guy
They are loyal to Texas. Even his mom ran track at Texas. But Anderson and the older Greg Brown came from bad poverty in Baton Rouge.
University of Texas gave them a lot.
So we will see.
If he goes pro. You possibly could see them go after Adam Miller
Bryce Hamilton is another. He is Jordan Hamilton's cousin.
If Jericho Sims leaves I have heard Dylan Disu will transfer to Texas.
Guess Disu is a legit big and could fill in nicely for Sims.
Guess Disu is a legit big and could fill in nicely for Sims.
Theo John is leaving Marquette. Far from a star, but the kind of role player that could really round out a roster.
