Mid tier Big Ten program with some potential upside. Not in top tier like Jay and Arch have been trying to argue all off-season.What should the expectations for an illinois basketball fan be?
Mid tier Big Ten program with some potential upside. Not in top tier like Jay and Arch have been trying to argue all off-season.What should the expectations for an illinois basketball fan be?
Who else is saying it other than Illinois fans? Most people are saying it’s between Purdue and Michigan.I don’t have to. Everyone but you is saying it.
Well in 2021 it was better considering your best player is Luke Goode. In 2022 it will be better as well (even without Clowney). 2023 will likely be the same. None of the recruiters that were around to get Kofi, Ayo, Miller, or Curbelo are still around. That’s the part you don’t seem to understand.Which year was it better?
The year we got Kofi who is better than TJD?
Or the year after when we got Curbelo who’s wayyyy better than Lander?
Your class is 11th and has 0% of getting to the top 5, which is what I said the day you posted that nonsense.
Numerous publications have picked Illinois. All of the analytics sites have them 1, 2, or 3.Who else is saying it other than Illinois fans? Most people are saying it’s between Purdue and Michigan.
Links to the publications? Analytic sites are based on previous year’s performance at this point.Numerous publications have picked Illinois. All of the analytics sites have them 1, 2, or 3.
I think they should be a top 5 Big Ten team every year. Down years they won't be, up years they will win the conference.Mid tier Big Ten program with some potential upside. Not in top tier like Jay and Arch have been trying to argue all off-season.
Don’t forget Illinois played in the rose bowl last.I really thought that Indiana would have a better year than they have this year. Maybe that starts today?
Bret Beilema is a better coach than Tom Allen. The resumes speak for themselves. Allen hasnt accomplished anything and he is 51 years old.
And that’s the kind of expectations that most people see as homerish. Underwood has never won the Big Ten, and Illinois hasn’t won it since 2005, so having that as an expectation is unrealistic. Being in the top 5 EVERY year is also unrealistic. I mean look at MSU last year and Purdue the year before.I think they should be a top 5 Big Ten team every year. Down years they won't be, up years they will win the conference.
Most recent Final Four too😂Don’t forget Illinois played in the rose bowl last.
Illinois football>Indiana Football🤣🤣🤣
Wait just a gulldurn minute?!? We have been to a Rose Bowl since Michigan has? Michigan hasnt been to a Rose Bowl in...*checks notes...16 years!!!Don’t forget Illinois played in the rose bowl last.
Illinois football>Indiana Football🤣🤣🤣
There is only one of us that doesn’t understand.Well in 2021 it was better considering your best player is Luke Goode. In 2022 it will be better as well (even without Clowney). 2023 will likely be the same. None of the recruiters that were around to get Kofi, Ayo, Miller, or Curbelo are still around. That’s the part you don’t seem to understand.
We have really shitty defense when it comes to stopping people from getting down the field and a good red zone defense. Kicking a bunch of field goals is par for the course against us.Have to get TD's, man....IU has been pretty dominant. Yet only leads 9-7.
I think we can pull off a top 5 finish this season. 3 in a row is the start of something.And that’s the kind of expectations that most people see as homerish. Underwood has never won the Big Ten, and Illinois hasn’t won it since 2005, so having that as an expectation is unrealistic. Being in the top 5 EVERY year is also unrealistic. I mean look at MSU last year and Purdue the year before.
Indiana is still a good team, despite the record. You guys are kind of opposites and I envy both of your football teams.The homeboard is melting down right now. People saw the 6-0 record and thought we were as good as those Connor Cook years. This team doesn’t have those OLines or DLines.
Just pointing out IU has played a brutal schedule. Meanwhile, you guys are 2-5 vs MD, Purdue, Charl, etc, etc....Congrats on the losses.
I am quite aware of how much we suck.Just pointing out IU has played a brutal schedule. Meanwhile, you guys are 2-5 vs MD, Purdue, Charl, etc, etc....
Who have they landed thats better any of those 4? Haven’t even really been close at this point.There is only one of us that doesn’t understand.
Illinois is in on higher rated recruits than Ayo, Curbelo, Kofi, and Miller based on recruiting ratings.
No Antigua or Chin, no problem.
Glad we’ve gotten to the point of Indiana has a “better” 2021 class thus you will be better moving forward. Lol
Start of what though? Do you think Curbelo and Kofi are going to be on the team this time next fall?I think we can pull off a top 5 finish this season. 3 in a row is the start of something.
You recognize one second you need evidence of performance but when it comes to Indiana “we have”, “that will” and “we will” with zero evidence to support.Who have they landed thats better any of those 4? Haven’t even really been close at this point.
You will soon understand just how valuable Antigua and Chin were.
We have the better classes and better assistant coaches. That means we will have the more talented roster moving forward. That will lead to better on court results if Woodson is even Tom Crean level.
Defense has just been nails.....Have to score TD's.
No idea. Your track record on this subject isnt strong so I wont ask you if you think they will be back.Start of what though? Do you think Curbelo and Kofi are going to be on the team this time next fall?
The better classes and better assistant coaches? 😂😂Who have they landed thats better any of those 4? Haven’t even really been close at this point.
You will soon understand just how valuable Antigua and Chin were.
We have the better classes and better assistant coaches. That means we will have the more talented roster moving forward. That will lead to better on court results if Woodson is even Tom Crean level.
Looks to be solid....Not sure.What’s with the attendance today? Top 10 team at home and great weather.
I can backup those “haves” with evidence. IU has recruited so far at a higher level than Illinois under the new staffs. That’s a fact.You recognize one second you need evidence of performance but when it comes to Indiana “we have”, “that will” and “we will” with zero evidence to support.
No, they’re projections using current and past information. It’s not simply the end of year grades.Links to the publications? Analytic sites are based on previous year’s performance at this point.
And you’re going to lose Fears in our first h2h.I can backup those “haves” with evidence. IU has recruited so far at a higher level than Illinois under the new staffs. That’s a fact.
I got Kofi wrong even though he explored every option he could not to go back to Illinois. Just turns out the NBA and UK didn’t want him.No idea. Your track record on this subject isnt strong so I wont ask you if you think they will be back.
You said there were multiple publications that picked Illinois to win it. Still waiting on that evidence.No, they’re projections using current and past information. It’s not simply the end of year grades.
Just going to copy this post. The Michigan voter for one of their sites picked Illinois too.
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Illinois #7 for him
I haven't looked that closely at other rankings. But here are a few
#8 for Rothstein
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ROTHSTEIN 45: Early Preseason 2021-2022
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#5 in T-Rank
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2021-22 Projections - - Customizable College Basketball Tempo Free Stats - T-Rank
T-Rank College Basketball Ratings and Rankings. And fun.
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Goodman has them at 13, but calls Curbelo an All American.
Lindy's has Illinois at 20.
Gary Parrish at CBS has Illinois #17.
BlueRibbon has Illinois at #18
Busting Brackets has Illinois at #16
The Athletic has Illinois at #14
ESPN has Illinois at #13.”
These are all at worst third place. why don’t you do yourself a favor and get informed.
Assistants are better?I can backup those “haves” with evidence. IU has recruited so far at a higher level than Illinois under the new staffs. That’s a fact.
Last time I checked, Illinois offered JHS, do you have already lost the first H2H. We may have two top 100 PGs committed by the time Fears decides, btw.And you’re going to lose Fears in our first h2h.
Lol yes? Which assistants do you have better than Fife or Kenya Hunter? What about better than Thad Matta or Randy Whitman?Assistants are better?