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I will say that I think this year looms large for Brohm. His first 2 years went better & produced more competitive teams than anyone could have expected.
& the last 2 have been disappointing. one with an injury riddled year and then last year’s weird COVID year with a half committed Rondale Moore & a terrible Diaco hire.
He needs to prove something this year. The offense gives me hope but I remain pessimistic about the defense and overall depth in general.
& the last 2 have been disappointing. one with an injury riddled year and then last year’s weird COVID year with a half committed Rondale Moore & a terrible Diaco hire.
He needs to prove something this year. The offense gives me hope but I remain pessimistic about the defense and overall depth in general.
I know it's been defense bits it's still shocking to me. Moore and Bell make any QB look better than they are.
I'm talking each ones progression. I don't think anyone can deny the different directions each has taken.
One has won 6 games the past two years the other 14....
Oh no doubt you’ve been better. But things can change quickly we’ll see what things look like in 2 years. After their second seasons, most non-IU/Purdue people would’ve said Purdue had the better trajectory. Obviously not the case now but a lot can happen.
I think both Sindelar and Blough were significantly better under Brohm than they were the previous regime. Plummer (Brohm’s first QB recruit) is just now entering the year you would expect him to have developed into a starter at the big ten level.
& then they have a 4 star sophomore QB and a 4 star QB coming in next year.
So I’m still optimistic that position has room to improve, although I do think it’s still the least of Purdue’s worries outside of skill positions.
It was probably time for it to end. I’m fine with it as long as we schedule a better team with the open slot.
Am I? Because it sure doesn't look like it to me. There is no doubt you were the better team in 2020. But was 2020 an anomaly or a trend? We will see this year.
2019's difference IMO can largely be written off to IU's ridiculously easy schedule and Purdue's injury woes. The 8 opponents you beat:
5-7 Ball State
1-11 Eastern Illinois (FCS)
2-10 UConn
2-10 Rutgers
3-9 Maryland
5-7 Nebraska
3-9 Northwestern
4-8 Purdue
And that win over 4-8 Purdue required double OT even though we had reached the point injury wise where we were starting a 3rd string walk-on at QB, 3rd string walk-on at C, and 4th string walk-on at RB. Our injuries that year were stupid. Losing Sindelar and Rondale Moore on the same play was nuts.
You really didn’t understand? I mentioned that Okpara committed to Ohio State and for really no reason it gets mentioned that Tarris Reed “ might “ get ranked ahead of him. It just seemed random as that comment could be applied to any combination of players. As for those 2, Osu clearly felt Okpara was a better fit and as of right now all the people who are paid to evaluate prospects agree he is the better long term prospect. I personally have no idea but as a fan, I like what I’ve seen of Okpara and his ability to switch on smaller players and guard multiple positions. If you have players who can score consistently at other positions that might be the single most important attribute in today’s game.
A lot of Football talk today is nice to see. Curious as to how others feel about their school this year since last season was mostly a waste.
Make no mistake your staff didn’t pass on Reed. Ohio State found out they weren’t getting Reed or weren’t a lock and they’d rather take Okpara than miss out on both.
He very well could end up a good player, but he isn’t going to be a guy you want playing 20+ minutes in his first couple years.
Right now he is much higher than he will finish when the 2022 rankings update. That being said he will still be a top 150 kid because he’s 6’11 with potential.
Lol we were far better than you in 2019. Look at the teams you lost to. You didn’t beat anyone of note. Btw, we were also on our second string QB. Injuries don’t matter, right? At least that’s what Purdue fans told us during the Romeo year.
As for double overtime, it was at Purdue and we were beating the brakes off you. We were up 18 with 3 minutes to go in the 3rd before we let up.
That would be like me saying we were as good as Ohio State this year because we had a chance for a game winning drive even though they were up 21 on us in the 3rd.
Too much man. We've swapped football and basketball positions. Just accept it.
You actually have no idea what you're talking about in terms of what Osu preferred. We'll see how he ends up as a player but not a single site currently has him rated higher and since he's been playing basketball for two years I'd assume his ranking is based on projection more than most which is understandable since he's a way better athlete than most of the other centers
Not sure of the IU schedule but if Penix is healthy they will be a problem.
You think comparing our center target to your center commit, especially considering their AAU ties and the fact the OSU recruited Reed, is random? Lol
That’s a pretty big IF though. Guy is extremely talented but hasn’t played in more than 6 games in a season.
Yeah that’s probably fair. I keep thinking Purdue can make a bowl but they have one of the top 5 toughest schedules which blows.
You can choose not to believe me, but I’ve seen this play out 100’s of times. I follow recruiting way too closely tbh.
But when a recruit makes a decision right before/after another target at the same position is going to decide, it means you went with safe plan-B.
No shame in it, even the best miss on some of their preferred targets.
You're half right. Osu preferred Filipkowski and thought they had a good chance but when they saw the writing on the wall they pushed hard for Okpara. Osu also felt good about Favour Aire. Reed was never a real option or one Osu pursued heavily. They also never pursued Chris Livingston but went all in on Roddy Gayle. That certainly doesn't mean Gayle is better or Osu thinks he is, just they thought he was a better fit.
I'm glad we got Ohio State for the first game of the season and at home to boot. Best chance we'll have to beat them for awhile.
You don’t follow OSU basketball recruiting that closely if you don’t know that they recruited Reed heavily….and flipowski is a stretch 4. Holtmann is a ****** if he was recruiting him to be your 5 at this point.
Filipowski and Livingston are the cherry on top type of recruit. Their scholarships will be there if they want to commit, but it isn’t contingent on anybody else.
Illinois is doing the same thing with Jarace Walker and Cam Whitmore, you recruit them all out until they commit elsewhere or tell you that you are eliminated.
I’d guess based on the how Reed responded after his official, OSU thought they were in it. Then when they saw how he told the same thing to MSU and Michigan after those officials. That made them less confident and they went the safe route with Okpara.
I actually follow recruiting heavily and I’m fully aware of who Osu preferred and didn’t.
Not the best scenario for Osu for sure. Plus they have Oregon the next week.
If your staff preferred Okpara over Reed then their talent evaluations are terrible.
More than likely you aren’t in the know as much as you think are.
The most disappointing part of this is seeing @KisteK liked it. <\3
Best part was a group of us (IU, Purdue, Butler grads/fans) always got together or went out to the bars to watch it. But from a b-ball perspective, it had kinda grown stale on me TBH.
Plus it doesn’t help that the event always happened right after Purdue had finals. Players always came out sluggish it seemed like.
The finals excuse always confused me. Every university in that event has finals at the same time.
It’s kinda shocking they wouldn’t use an message board Illinois fan as their scout.
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