****Official B1G Off Season Thread****

[cmore79]

I know that this is homeboard material, but I cant wait to watch Hutcherson this year. I think he will surprise a lot of people.

 

[jwardelt]

Yes, assuming no injuries, a top 20 team should be this team's floor.

You guys listed 10+ for your rotation. An injury shouldn't derail a top 20 season.

 

[Archetype19]

I think 5 seed floor. I could see Kofi serving a suspension, Hutcherson taking some time to get comfortable, Curbelo not shooting as well as we'd hoped, the defense taking a step back, Williams regressing to the mean. We're going to need a 3rd guy to step up and be a consistent threat for a 1/2 seed. I don't think anything is a given with this team.

However, I could see us being really good if Hutcherson plays like we've heard. I also think Grandison figured his role out at the end of the season last year, and it took the team to another level.

He will miss 2 to 3 games max.

Frazier was our 3rd guy last year, and will be again.

I’ve watch Hutch play live, he’s legit. If healthy.

Our non-conference schedule is a cake walk.

We will have 6 or 7 losses going into conference tournament max, barring injuries.

 

[jwardelt]

I know that this is homeboard material, but I cant wait to watch Hutcherson this year. I think he will surprise a lot of people.

He's the one who hasn't played in over 2 years?

 

[Ingersol]

Yes, assuming no injuries, a top 20 team should be this team's floor.

Are you assuming top 5 finish in the big ten standings as well?

 

[Jaycg15]

1. Curbelo
2. Frazier
3.Hutcherson
4. Coleman Hawkins
5. ?

Williams, Plummer, Payne, Grandison plus 3 freshman off the bench

1. Curbelo
2. Frazier.
3. Hutcherson
4. Grandison
5. Cockburn

Off the bench, Plummer, Williams, Payne, and 3 freshman.

 

[jwardelt]

He will miss 2 to 3 games max.

Frazier was our 3rd guy last year, and will be again.

I’ve watch Hutch play live, he’s legit. If healthy.

Our non-conference schedule is a cake walk.

We will have 6 or 7 losses going into conference tournament max, barring injuries.

Underwood afraid to schedule? That's very Iowa like.

 

[VulvHa]

Need me to keep going?

I’m not sure what your fcking point is? All these guys you are quoting are saying the exact same thing now that they did then.

 

[Archetype19]

Underwood afraid to schedule?

Drew Marquette and Notre Dame in our challenges. Lucky break.

Mizzou lost every decent player on their roster, though they get up against us.

 

[Jaycg15]

You guys listed 10+ for your rotation. An injury shouldn't derail a top 20 season.

We go 8 deep with the 3 freshman playing spot minutes.

 

[Jaycg15]

Underwood afraid to schedule? That's very Iowa like.

He tried scheduling Baylor 2x last season lol

 

[Archetype19]

1. Curbelo
2. Frazier.
3. Hutcherson
4. Grandison
5. Cockburn

Off the bench, Plummer, Williams, Payne, and 3 freshman.

Hawkins will play over the 3 freshman.

Doubt the freshmen get any meaningful minutes this year.

 

[jwardelt]

He tried scheduling Baylor 2x last season lol

But he didn't make it happen.

 

[Jaycg15]

He will miss 2 to 3 games max.

Frazier was our 3rd guy last year, and will be again.

I’ve watch Hutch play live, he’s legit. If healthy.

Our non-conference schedule is a cake walk.

We will have 6 or 7 losses going into conference tournament max, barring injuries.

I believe the Hutch hoopla, but again, practices aren't games in the Big Ten. Having the talent and it translating are two separate things.

 

[Jaycg15]

Hawkins will play over the 3 freshman.

Doubt the freshmen get any meaningful minutes this year.

Oversight. @jwardelt we go 9 deep.

 

[jwardelt]

We go 8 deep with the 3 freshman playing spot minutes.

That's plenty of players.

I think we played 7 core guys on the way to the finals. Not to mention lost our starting pg to injury.

 

[Jaycg15]

But he didn't make it happen.

It was an attempted filler game in the middle of the season, so I'm giving him a break.

 

[jwardelt]

Oversight. @jwardelt we go 9 deep.

Quite the gangbang.

 

[flight 33]

You stick to yore shitposting, I will give you that.

Iowa fans talked a bunch of shit last year preseason and ended up winning nothing. Illinois following the same path.

Dude, you really think Wisconsin is better than illinois this year? Maybe you didn’t say that but that’s unlikely…

 

[Jaycg15]

That's plenty of players.

I think we played 7 core guys on the way to the finals. Not to mention lost our starting pg to injury.

It all depends on who. Lose Kofi or Curbelo in the first half of the season and we're looking at a 10 seed.

 

[flight 33]

You guys listed 10+ for your rotation. An injury shouldn't derail a top 20 season.

It can if it’s an all big ten caliber player….I mean, you can’t lose curbelo…

 

[Archetype19]

I believe the Hutch hoopla, but again, practices aren't games in the Big Ten. Having the talent and it translating are two separate things.

With the way our roster is set up, even if it takes time, he won’t be counted on to be anything more than our 4th option.

He has upside to be our second, behind only Kofi.

Good boat to be in.

 

[jwardelt]

Dude, you really think Wisconsin is better than illinois this year? Maybe you didn’t say that but that’s unlikely…

Yore right, I never said that. I'm not an idiot. We basically have an entirely new team. I'm saying you (illinios fans) talk a lot of shit w/o much evidence to back it up. You have one good, not great year, and yore talking NC's and such. Even Iowa has a good year every now and then.

 

[jwardelt]

It can if it’s an all big ten caliber player….I mean, you can’t lose curbelo…

We lost our pg that year. Get a backup if you need one.

 

[Archetype19]

Yore right, I never said that. I'm not an idiot. We basically have an entirely new team. I'm saying you (illinios fans) talk a lot of shit w/o much evidence to back it up. You have one good, not great year, and yore talking NC's and such. Even Iowa has a good year every now and then.

Nobody has ever said NC’s and such.

I’ve been consistently saying Illinois IMO is a top 5 with Kofi. Top 10 minimum. And will 100% be in the running for B1G title and a top seed.

You disagree?

 

[flight 33]

Yore right, I never said that. I'm not an idiot. We basically have an entirely new team. I'm saying you (illinios fans) talk a lot of shit w/o much evidence to back it up. You have one good, not great year, and yore talking NC's and such. Even Iowa has a good year every now and then.

I didn’t see the NC talk…..I think the confidence stems from Brad Underwood being the coach…illinois is 32-11 in big ten games the last two years. Don’t forget that illini ran the table with Ayo out last year and this team is deeper and older.

 

[cmore79]

He's the one who hasn't played in over 2 years?

Yes. Hasnt played in 2 years, coming off injury and was a D-III kid. And Im talking about how good I think he is. I understand how crazy that is.

 

[flight 33]

We lost our pg that year. Get a backup if you need one.

curbelo is the best PG in the league. You can’t just replace a guy like that….

 

[flight 33]

Yes. Hasnt played in 2 years, coming off injury and was a D-III kid. And Im talking about how good I think he is. I understand how crazy that is.

Yeah, I am not buying what they are selling on him till I see it…

 

[Ingersol]

Gonzaga, Duke, Villanova, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan, Purdue, Baylor, UCLA, Texas, Arkansas, Ohio State, Alabama


So Illinois floor is having a better resume than all but 7 of these teams?

 

[Jaycg15]

He's the one who hasn't played in over 2 years?

Yes, he's a guy that people have been raving about around our program. Built and plays a bit like Zach Lavine, imo - don't take that comparison for more than a stylistic comparison. Can shoot and jump out of the gym, and he supposedly will handle the ball for us at times.

We've all had guys like this that get hyped though, so I'm just going to assume he's a guy that catches and shoots 3's at 35% clip, and anything more is great.

 

[jwardelt]

curbelo is the best PG in the league. You can’t just replace a guy like that….

Next man up. No excuses.

 

[jwardelt]

Yes, he's a guy that people have been raving about around our program. Built and plays a bit like Zach Lavine, imo - don't take that comparison for more than a stylistic comparison. Can shoot and jump out of the gym, and he supposedly will handle the ball for us at times.

We've all had guys like this that get hyped though, so I'm just going to assume he's a guy that catches and shoots 3's at 35% clip, and anything more is great.

Everyone raved about Aleem Ford in the off season for more than one year.

Sorry if I'm skeptical.

 

[Ingersol]

Michigan State will be better than Illinois in my opinion.

 

[jwardelt]

Nobody has ever said NC’s and such.

I’ve been consistently saying Illinois IMO is a top 5 with Kofi. Top 10 minimum. And will 100% be in the running for B1G title and a top seed.

You disagree?

Top 5 implies NC's. Shit even top 10.

And yes, I disagree.

 

[Jaycg15]

Gonzaga, Duke, Villanova, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan, Purdue, Baylor, UCLA, Texas, Arkansas, Ohio State, Alabama


So Illinois floor is having a better resume than all but 7 of these teams?

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barttorvik.com

Torvik has us as 3 with Kofi back. I don't get why you can't fathom Illinois being a top 10 team.

 

[Jaycg15]

Everyone raved about Aleem Ford in the off season for more than one year.

Sorry if I'm skeptical.

I just told you that I was skeptical.

 

[MGC_07]

Michigan State will be better than Illinois in my opinion.

Without Cockburn yeah I think so, but with him they’re probably better.

 

[jwardelt]

I just told you that I was skeptical.

And I'm agreeing. But maybe more skeptical than you at this point.

 

[Ingersol]

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barttorvik.com

Torvik has us as 3 with Kofi back. I don't get why you can't fathom Illinois being a top 10 team.

So you must think Illinois is winning like 25 games this year?