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*Official* B1G Off-season Thread

Lol what? Playing a crappy game and still having a chance to beat a 10-win team from a year ago is “just like the Purdue most of us are accustomed to seeing?” Maybe you weren’t paying attention to Rondale Moore?

What is Northwestern this year? The 6th-8th best team in the B1G? I'm guessing SNU meant that losing at home to a middle-of-the-pack B1G team is what we are accustomed to seeing from Purdue.
 
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I wanna be clear about this. No one is sitting here cheering about the mistakes pertaining Larry Nassar. Not one soul. That was an absolute tragedy.

But I am happy that the NCAA is giving one giant middle finger to all the people who have ruthlessly defamed Mark Dantonio and Tom Izzo with situations that don’t tell the whole story or flat out lie, but some of these people (more specifically ESPN) could give 2 sh*ts about the truth.
I've looked up to Tom Izzo for years as a terrific basketball coach, but overall this is an ignorant statement.
 
I can understand those people who don't feel like Izzo did enough in the Appling/Payne situation (of which, the facts keep getting distorted in this thread - she said "no" to Appling not using a condom. Payne never stated that she was raped) based on their conduct, but there was no cover up. These were allegations, that were dismissed by the Prosecutor's office (and not just the one Prosecutor who was later charged with soliciting prostitution, the charges being dropped were a recommendation of his assistant DA, a female).

She said stop and that she was done and wasn't just talking about Appling not using a condom. I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if it this falls into sexual misconduct, rape, or just being a piece of shit.... but Appling using a position of influence to convince a drunk girl to do something she stated she didn't want to do is not a good look.



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I can understand how a DA office might not have enough evidence to bring a (?) sexual misconduct case like that to court, but them not doing so doesn't clear Appling of wrongdoing.
 
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So you believe neither had any idea, any of this was going on? That not one victim ever reached out to them? Especially Izzo. Who's probably the most visable person , faculty member on campus.
I mean I guess.

I don't have a problem with folks thinking Izzo and Mike D knew what was going on with athletics at MSU in an area/sport they were definitely not involved in. As long as they don't try to whitewash Jim Jordan's knowledge of what went on in a sport he was DIRECTLY involved with (OSU wrestling).

I realize this isn't the political forum. But some of the most vocal critics of Izzo and D in this thread are pretty vocal voices on the right who would tend to defend Jordan as a "victim". Not to mention the "victim in Chief"...
 
It’s crazy how I leave the house for two hours come back and there is still 10 minutes left in the third quarter.
Dude...I was telling my wife the same thing last night. I honestly thought there was a clock malfunction.
 
Your program is just now climbing out of the shitter. Nice loss at home.

And passed IU in one year after an awful 4-year stretch. I’ll take a 4 point loss at home with a great atmosphere and big-time recruits in attendance.
 
Oh, you’re talking about football. Pretty funny, IU fans talking smack in football.

Carry on.
No, I was just commenting on the increased level of hype from a few PU Fans around the Purdue football team this offseason. I turned on the game and they were down 14 points in the first quarter. Seems pretty much like what I expect from Purdue football.

And don’t get me wrong, IU is no better.
 
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And passed IU in one year after an awful 4-year stretch. I’ll take a 4 point loss at home with a great atmosphere and big-time recruits in attendance.
Dude you had a better year, barely, than IU last year. Let’s pump the brakes a little. You have a good coach, but you’re not going to turn into some powerhouse. And bragging about passing IU football isn't something to be proud of. The fact you weren't ahead of IU football for the prior handful of years speaks volumes.
 
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And passed IU in one year after an awful 4-year stretch. I’ll take a 4 point loss at home with a great atmosphere and big-time recruits in attendance.

You are literally comparing Purdue’s program to one of the worst programs in the history of college football. You should probably stop that if you want anyone to take Purdue more serious.
 
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You are literally comparing Purdue’s program to one of the worst programs in the history of college football. You should probably stop that if you want anyone to take Purdue more serious.

Fair point.
 
Dropping home openers to mid-tier conference teams, I guess. You'd think Purdue fans would be upset about that.
We survived the Hazell era. You think a close loss to a solid team in which we were murdered in the turnover battle is going to send us over the edge?

Plus, we got the full Rondale experience.
 
No, I was just commenting on the increased level of hype from a few PU Fans around the Purdue football team this offseason. I turned on the game and they were down 14 points in the first quarter. Seems pretty much like what I expect from Purdue football.

And don’t get me wrong, IU is no better.
It’s pretty obvious that Brohm was a good hire. I don’t expect him to flip the program overnight however. He did a good job to be bowl eligible last year and I expect he will have us yearning for that seventh win come bucket time again. But, it will take time to get us back to regularly going to bowls I think. The Purdue fans who think it will happen overnight remind me of the IU fans who feel Archie is going to do the same for their program. IU added some nice pieces and bring back a couple of guys who can ball, but to expect this years team to be a lot better than last is just speculation and wishful thinking. Will IU make the tourney? I think so. Outside of that I don’t see a huge leap from last year, and to be honest, that in itself will be a pretty big leap.
 
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We survived the Hazell era. You think a close loss to a solid team in which we were murdered in the turnover battle is going to send us over the edge?

Plus, we got the full Rondale experience.

This. The guy was trending on twitter and broke Purdue’s all purpose yardage record in his first game. David Bell and Wandale Robinson were loving it and I feel like that absolutely helped in the recruitment of both of them.
 
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We survived the Hazell era. You think a close loss to a solid team in which we were murdered in the turnover battle is going to send us over the edge?

Plus, we got the full Rondale experience.

I'm not sure I'd call Northwestern a "solid team" this year. I think they are firmly behind Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn St., Michigan St., and Michigan. That is 6th in the conference at best and possibly behind Nebraska and Iowa.

Losing to them at home isn't good.
 
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It’s pretty obvious that Brohm was a good hire. I don’t expect him to flip the program overnight however. He did a good job to be bowl eligible last year and I expect he will have us yearning for that seventh win come bucket time again. But, it will take time to get us back to regularly going to bowls I think. The Purdue fans who think it will happen overnight remind me of the IU fans who feel Archie is going to do the same for their program. IU added some nice pieces and bring back a couple of guys who can ball, but to expect this years team to be a lot better than last is just speculation and wishful thinking. Will IU make the tourney? I think so. Outside of that I don’t see a huge leap from last year, and to be honest, that in itself will be a pretty big leap.
Probably depends on your definition of a lot better. Seems to me that most IU fans think IU will finish in the top four(ish) of the B10 and make the tourney. I think 22-23 wins isn't unreasonable and I would consider that a pretty decent second season for Archie. I don't see that as being out of reach or a stretch, by any means.
 
To be fair, most Big Ten fans know that’s just simply not accurate. The won 10 games last season and returned 7 offensive and 7 defensive starters. I’d be shocked if they won less than 7 games.
 
Probably depends on your definition of a lot better. Seems to me that most IU fans think IU will finish in the top four(ish) of the B10 and make the tourney. I think 22-23 wins isn't unreasonable and I would consider that a pretty decent second season for Archie. I don't see that as being out of reach or a stretch, by any means.
Too four for a ceiling isn’t unreasonable given what we do know. I expect about the same for Purdue.
I don’t think that there is enough data available for either team however to expect top four as a given, however.
 
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NW is mid-tier? Didn’t they return quite a bit from a 10 win team?

Look at the teams they beat. They are not a 10 win team from the east like an OSU. I’m not saying Purdue looked awful but the hey we only lost by 7 at home to B1G West team that won 10 games last year isn’t much of anything.
 
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To be fair, most Big Ten fans know that’s just simply not accurate. The won 10 games last season and returned 7 offensive and 7 defensive starters. I’d be shocked if they won less than 7 games.

How much money did you put on that Vegas line then?
 
Is he wrong? Doesn't seem like he is, to me. But then again, I operate in reality not fantasy land.
Purdue has a 5-4 edge over Michigan head-to-head in the past four years and has finished ahead of Michigan in the B1G each year. Michigan has fared better in the past two BTT and had two great NCAAT runs. To state they are better than Purdue as fact is wrong. It's debatable.

SNU, you've gone full homer/troll the past few months which is fine. But let's not pretend like you are capable of ever looking at things through a semi-objective lense on this board. So for you to call others "homers" or "little brother" seems far more fantasy land than a Purdue fan feeling good about where the program is headed after the previous regime in West Lafayette.
 
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