They are very different. TJD can handle the ball and defend multiple positions. Set high screens and run either end of a PNR. Much broader game.
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You Purdue fans have been discussing TJD’s draft situation for 5 pages. You all have a really weird way of showing you don’t care.
If NBA status matters, Purdue’s past two decades is embarrassing. I personally don’t harp on the NBA or draft much at all but it’s really weird for Purdue fans to do so.
Right. It’s their way to try and take shots at IU. It’s dumb and very on brand for some Purdue fans. I guess i shouldn’t be surprised.
He would definitely have a much better chance of getting drafted in the first round, which is what I’ve been saying the entire time. Would TJD go higher in the first round than Edey if they both were good outside shooters? Probably given he is more athletic. That’s all I’ve been saying. Developing an outside shot would give BOTH players a much better chance of going in the first round than not. I don’t understand why it has been so hard to admit that.
Again, Edey will be drafted and will likely make a team for a while given his size. And while the NBA has changed over the years, why wouldn’t he try to develop an outside shot? Y’all only want to focus on TJD while ignoring the same development would help Edey as well given how the game has changed. He likely could have left this year had he developed an outside shot.
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Consensus on Iowa home board is that, while he would be a locker room fit for Ben Affleck reasons, he plays too much defense to help us and we also don't have enough time to convince the rural fans to accept the headband.
Here’s a unique stat…
Over the final 8 games of the season, true freshman Dug McDaniel averaged 40.25 minutes per game in a sport with two 20 minute halves.
Over the final 8 games of the season, true freshman Dug McDaniel averaged 40.25 minutes per game in a sport with two 20 minute halves.
I haven't been discussing it for 5 pages. I just hopped on the other day to see what this thread was discussing and saw that some IU posters were trying to compare Edey's draft status vs TJD's and that they were trying to make an argument where there wasn't one. It blows my mind that someone can be so unwilling to understand that a player such as TJD could have improved his draft status by widening his game. That's all. Otherwise I couldn't give two shits what is going on with TJD.
Yes, I never denied that it wouldn't improve his chances. What I've been saying is that it would have a greater effect on someone like TJD because of his athleticism and overall game. TJD has athleticism and skills Edey doesn't. The shooting would top that off. That's what I've been trying to say.
Look, I don't know what was said by other Purdue posters, but if you think I'm trying to take shots at IU, you are delusional. The thought of trying to "knock" on IU never crosses my mind. I've been complimenting TJD on his skill set, yet somehow that's me trying to knock IU?
The fact is I was born and raised an IU fan. I became a Purdue fan after I went to school there. I literally took my cousin to the Purdue/IU game in Mackey as an IU fan my sophomore year, back when it was Knight vs Keady. My love for Purdue basketball came shortly after that.
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I see Snu’s doing Snu things, a couple of Purdue guys took the bait and Hail can’t help but try to wedge himself into the dialogue because hes feeling left out again.
My offseason Bingo card is complete.
My offseason Bingo card is complete.
Yup. He was playing like 19 minutes a half every game and then several went to OT. Kinda crazy.
Every player in the history of ever could improve their draft stock by widening their games.
Purdue has 1 player in the NBA. Why don’t Purdue players widen their game to better suit what they’ll need to sustain an NBA career?
I hope you realize how ridiculous this argument is and how it is a straw man to the discussion.
What's your point? You seem to stroke off at pointing out that Purdue only having one player in the NBA. So what? That has literally no bearing on the discussion.
PU fans spend a spectacular amount of time explaining that they don’t care about IU.
Think he’s saying Purdue players aren’t widening their games like you (and other Purdue fans) expect others to do. Surprised the Purdue program doesn’t try to do that knowing it would help guys get drafted.
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I'm done. I've said my peace. If you can't understand it then that's a you problem.
Understand what? You say---"TJD ccould have improved his draft position, by widening his game"----Well, duh. Then it gets mentioned, "one PU player in the league//"---So maybe PU dudes should widen their game is mentioned...
But to you----its different.
How?
Have you totally missed the conversation? You must have if you're making this comment because I would expect you to know better.
We were talking about players that will/should get drafted and their ability to be a first round draft as well as 5* players that don't get drafted early. Not every Tom Dick and Harry on every roster.
Ok let’s start a new discussion.
Why don’t Purdue players widen their game to better suit what they’ll need to sustain an NBA career?
You guys spam a single topic for 5 pages and I’m the bad guy for giving my opinion on it on day 10. Never change.
It started with Purdue homers saying TJD should have been a one or two and done because he was a 5*. They were positioning TJD staying four years as a slight on him and his development because he didn’t go in the draft sooner or potentially not in the first round. It was purely about why didn’t a player who never shot from deep in his career magically start doing it. I said the same could be said for Edey and y’all freaked. We’re talking about doing what is necessary to expand your game in a way that will get you drafted higher. Shooting from the outside would help both TJD and Edey get drafted higher.
Bottom line is, TJD could have left earlier. NIL played a factor and I believe he helped himself by staying longer. Not every 5* recruit is a one and done. I know y’all don’t get many, but it’s true.
Remains to be seen how much TJD helped himself. I can’t remember seeing him ever consistently be a first round pick in any of the mock drafts. If he helped himself by staying longer, it doesn’t appear to have been by much barring him somehow going in the first round.
Curious why you choose to ignore the Swanigan comparison to TJD seeing as how it’s a much better comparison than TJD versus Edey with their size/rankings. Swanigan wasn’t a shooter coming into college but worked on it and it got him drafted in the first round. That’s the better comparison to TJD.
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What could Ethan Morton or Mason Gillis do to widen their game to help them be NBA guys? It’d be like saying why doesn’t Trey Galloway widen his game to help him sustain an NBA career? Some dudes just aren’t NBA-caliber.
Curious as to why you choose to ignore the idea Edey could also help himself by expanding his game which would benefit him in the draft.
TJD has always been a projected second round pick. This past season with him taking guys off the dribble I believe will help him in the draft. But the fact remains that he developed well at IU and got better. Could he have gone earlier? Probably. Did NIL play a part in him staying? Probably some. Would expanding his game to the 3pt line help his draft? Likely. Would expanding Edey’s game help his draft potential? Likely. Don’t understand why that’s so hard to admit. Lol…
Purdue has had alot more players than just Ethan Morton and Mason Gillis.
Why hasn’t anyone else but Ivey developed tools to crack a current NBA roster?
Get better at basketball. That would help them.
Oh, and Galloway DID expand his game. Shot well over 40% from 3pt range last year.
Why didn’t Swanigan develop a good enough shot to stay on an NBA roster? He shot 2 for 17 from three in 4 seasons. Why didn’t he develop that shot better?
And he’s still nowhere close to an NBA roster just like Morton or Gillis.
