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*Official* B1G In-Season Thread

Joshua Langford is averaging 18.5 points on 51% from the field, 47% from 3, and 86% from the line.

He is averaging 1.23 points per possession and letting up .95 points per possession.

Playing great basketball right now.

I like AC vs Winston and Bruno vs Ward- don't know who guards Langford...
 
Joshua Langford is averaging 18.5 points on 51% from the field, 47% from 3, and 86% from the line.

He is averaging 1.23 points per possession and letting up .95 points per possession.

Playing great basketball right now.
Wait, a minute............I know I read somewhere, where Josh Langford wasn't good at basketball??? Or was it Romeo Langford? Or both? Can't recall. :D
 
“MSU’s wings are the worst in the Big Ten” LaughingLaughingLaughing

McQuaid is playing better this year as well, although he had a bad game against Texas.

Playing better or just playing more? His numbers are pretty similar to last year on a per minute and efficiency basis.
 
Texas would beat Villanova head to head. Villanova got destroyed at home by UM and then lost to Furman at home. Texas beat UNC on a neutral court and beat Arkansas at home.

I don’t trust most metrics early. Late season I’ll give it to you, but not 5/6 games in.

Texas is a better basketball team than Villanova.

Well Villanova just beat #14 Florida State so maybe the Furman loss was an anamoly
 
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Well Villanova just beat #14 Florida State so maybe the Furman loss was an anamoly
Good win. Helps UM’s SOS.

Maybe UM’s complete destruction of them is an anomaly. Maybe this FSU game was an anomaly. Honestly, who cares. We are debating which team that we beat is better and their records. UM won at Nova. That was good. MSU beat UCLA and Texas. That was good. I’m sorry if I was trying to start something, I was just trying to point out that maybe Nova wasn’t so good. I may have been wrong, and maybe I was right.
 
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Playing better or just playing more? His numbers are pretty similar to last year on a per minute and efficiency basis.
Better. Playing much more of lead guard role. Last year he was just spot up, this year he is way more involved. Attacking too. Defensively he’s still good. He’s better this year
 
“MSU’s wings are the worst in the Big Ten” LaughingLaughingLaughing

McQuaid is playing better this year as well, although he had a bad game against Texas.

Mcquiad isnt playing any better. His numbers are down basically everywhere except Turnover %, which is one of the numbers you want to go down.

The guy who has shocked me is Josh Langford. This type of explosion from him is not anything anyone who has actually looked at his numbers the first two years could have seen coming.

The guy shot 38% from the field in 18 conference games last year. He had exactly 2 more assists than turnovers playing on a top 10 offense. His offensive rating in conference play last season was 100.6 per KenPom.

The difference this year, from what I can tell, is that hes taking smarter basketball shots. He still only has 9 total assists to 12 turnovers, so a negative assist to turnover ratio, so it must be the hot shooting is all I can tell.

Last season, he attempted 245 2 point attempts to only 109 3 point attempts. This year, hes attempted more 3 pointers than 2 pointers.

Last season, nearly half(49%) of his shots were 2 point jumpers, which is universally regarded by basketball guys everywhere as the worst shot in basketball. This season, only 24% of his shot attempts are 2 point jumpers. He is shooting 48% from 3, which will obviously come down some, but even that is higher than what he is shooting on 2 point jumpers this year (46%). So, anyone can see shooting 46% on any 2 point shot doesnt even net you a point per possession, right? So it will probably be imperative that he still continues shooting 3s when he eventually cools off some instead of falling back into old habits and stepping a foot into the line and launching 2 point jumpers again.

Not to sound like a troll, but I dont think he will continue putting up 19 points per game on 48% from 3. But hes certainly played and shot really well so far this year and even I cant spin that.
 
Mcquiad isnt playing any better. His numbers are down basically everywhere except Turnover %, which is one of the numbers you want to go down.

The guy who has shocked me is Josh Langford. This type of explosion from him is not anything anyone who has actually looked at his numbers the first two years could have seen coming.

The guy shot 38% from the field in 18 conference games last year. He had exactly 2 more assists than turnovers playing on a top 10 offense. His offensive rating in conference play last season was 100.6 per KenPom.

The difference this year, from what I can tell, is that hes taking smarter basketball shots. He still only has 9 total assists to 12 turnovers, so a negative assist to turnover ratio, so it must be the hot shooting is all I can tell.

Last season, he attempted 245 2 point attempts to only 109 3 point attempts. This year, hes attempted more 3 pointers than 2 pointers.

Last season, nearly half(49%) of his shots were 2 point jumpers, which is universally regarded by basketball guys everywhere as the worst shot in basketball. This season, only 24% of his shot attempts are 2 point jumpers. He is shooting 48% from 3, which will obviously come down some, but even that is higher than what he is shooting on 2 point jumpers this year (46%). So, anyone can see shooting 46% on any 2 point shot doesnt even net you a point per possession, right? So it will probably be imperative that he still continues shooting 3s when he eventually cools off some instead of falling back into old habits and stepping a foot into the line and launching 2 point jumpers again.

Not to sound like a troll, but I dont think he will continue putting up 19 points per game on 48% from 3. But hes certainly played and shot really well so far this year and even I cant spin that.
McQuaid had a bad game against Texas, and we didn’t use him that much against the cupcakes (get the younger players PT), but he’s better this year.

He is much more of a multi dimensional offensive player. He has grown into more of a combo guard this year, being kind of our backup 1. He’s attacking more. He isn’t just a spot up shooter this year.
 
I’m not claiming Matt McQuaid is some all Big Ten player, but he is a better player this year than he was last year. That’s not ridiculous at all.

He’s also not a bad starter in the Big Ten. Not a great player, but you can’t say he’s a bad player. Probably the best wing defender we have too.
 
Mcquiad isnt playing any better. His numbers are down basically everywhere except Turnover %, which is one of the numbers you want to go down.

The guy who has shocked me is Josh Langford. This type of explosion from him is not anything anyone who has actually looked at his numbers the first two years could have seen coming.

The guy shot 38% from the field in 18 conference games last year. He had exactly 2 more assists than turnovers playing on a top 10 offense. His offensive rating in conference play last season was 100.6 per KenPom.

The difference this year, from what I can tell, is that hes taking smarter basketball shots. He still only has 9 total assists to 12 turnovers, so a negative assist to turnover ratio, so it must be the hot shooting is all I can tell.

Last season, he attempted 245 2 point attempts to only 109 3 point attempts. This year, hes attempted more 3 pointers than 2 pointers.

Last season, nearly half(49%) of his shots were 2 point jumpers, which is universally regarded by basketball guys everywhere as the worst shot in basketball. This season, only 24% of his shot attempts are 2 point jumpers. He is shooting 48% from 3, which will obviously come down some, but even that is higher than what he is shooting on 2 point jumpers this year (46%). So, anyone can see shooting 46% on any 2 point shot doesnt even net you a point per possession, right? So it will probably be imperative that he still continues shooting 3s when he eventually cools off some instead of falling back into old habits and stepping a foot into the line and launching 2 point jumpers again.

Not to sound like a troll, but I dont think he will continue putting up 19 points per game on 48% from 3. But hes certainly played and shot really well so far this year and even I cant spin that.
Agree with you on the Langford stuff. Not expecting him to keep up those numbers but he’s taking smarter shots this year, which I like, and he’s playing better defense.
 
Good win. Helps UM’s SOS.

Maybe UM’s complete destruction of them is an anomaly. Maybe this FSU game was an anomaly. Honestly, who cares. We are debating which team that we beat is better and their records. UM won at Nova. That was good. MSU beat UCLA and Texas. That was good. I’m sorry if I was trying to start something, I was just trying to point out that maybe Nova wasn’t so good. I may have been wrong, and maybe I was right.

You are the one saying that Texas is better than Nova as a matter of fact. Villanova just beat a team ranked around where Texas is ranked. Maybe it’s closer than you think.
 
McQuaid had a bad game against Texas, and we didn’t use him that much against the cupcakes (get the younger players PT), but he’s better this year.

He is much more of a multi dimensional offensive player. He has grown into more of a combo guard this year, being kind of our backup 1. He’s attacking more. He isn’t just a spot up shooter this year.

Then why doesn’t his improved offensive aresenal translate to better numbers?
 
Mcquiad isnt playing any better. His numbers are down basically everywhere except Turnover %, which is one of the numbers you want to go down.

The guy who has shocked me is Josh Langford. This type of explosion from him is not anything anyone who has actually looked at his numbers the first two years could have seen coming.

The guy shot 38% from the field in 18 conference games last year. He had exactly 2 more assists than turnovers playing on a top 10 offense. His offensive rating in conference play last season was 100.6 per KenPom.

The difference this year, from what I can tell, is that hes taking smarter basketball shots. He still only has 9 total assists to 12 turnovers, so a negative assist to turnover ratio, so it must be the hot shooting is all I can tell.

Last season, he attempted 245 2 point attempts to only 109 3 point attempts. This year, hes attempted more 3 pointers than 2 pointers.

Last season, nearly half(49%) of his shots were 2 point jumpers, which is universally regarded by basketball guys everywhere as the worst shot in basketball. This season, only 24% of his shot attempts are 2 point jumpers. He is shooting 48% from 3, which will obviously come down some, but even that is higher than what he is shooting on 2 point jumpers this year (46%). So, anyone can see shooting 46% on any 2 point shot doesnt even net you a point per possession, right? So it will probably be imperative that he still continues shooting 3s when he eventually cools off some instead of falling back into old habits and stepping a foot into the line and launching 2 point jumpers again.

Not to sound like a troll, but I dont think he will continue putting up 19 points per game on 48% from 3. But hes certainly played and shot really well so far this year and even I cant spin that.

Why did he dismiss all of that research you just did?
 
You are the one saying that Texas is better than Nova as a matter of fact. Villanova just beat a team ranked around where Texas is ranked. Maybe it’s closer than you think.
Reread my post. Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t. I’m sorry if I was trying to start something, but both were good wins. Let’s leave it at that.
 
I’m not claiming Matt McQuaid is some all Big Ten player, but he is a better player this year than he was last year. That’s not ridiculous at all.

He’s also not a bad starter in the Big Ten. Not a great player, but you can’t say he’s a bad player. Probably the best wing defender we have too.

I am simply going off of KenPom. All of his numbers are down this year per KenPom. Maybe he has improved dramatically on the defensive end, the only game I got to see MSU play from start to finish was Kansas and I thought him and Langford played poorly on the defensive end that game.
 
I am simply going off of KenPom. All of his numbers are down this year per KenPom. Maybe he has improved dramatically on the defensive end, the only game I got to see MSU play from start to finish was Kansas and I thought him and Langford played poorly on the defensive end that game.
KU’s guards hit some tough shots that game (Grimes hits a ton of three’s and he’s not known for that) but I can’t disagree. We played pretty poorly defensively vs. Kansas.

We’ll see. Eye test he looks better but I don’t pay for Kenpom. I think his numbers will be up this year, assists and rebounds, and fouls drawn, specifically.
 
Good win. Helps UM’s SOS.

Maybe UM’s complete destruction of them is an anomaly. Maybe this FSU game was an anomaly. Honestly, who cares. We are debating which team that we beat is better and their records. UM won at Nova. That was good. MSU beat UCLA and Texas. That was good. I’m sorry if I was trying to start something, I was just trying to point out that maybe Nova wasn’t so good. I may have been wrong, and maybe I was right.

Hate to beat this dead horse, but it bears further beating.

Ucla kinda blows. Cute ranking in front of their name, but they will be bubbling all February and March. With that said, Msu dominated them.
 
Hate to beat this dead horse, but it bears further beating.

Ucla kinda blows. Cute ranking in front of their name, but they will be bubbling all February and March. With that said, Msu dominated them.
UCLA lost too 2 good teams by a lot (played UNC tough, final score doesn’t tell the whole story)

Look, I’m not claiming UCLA is great, or even good, but they have some talent (Moses Brown, Kris Wilkes, Jaylen Hands) and they’ll probably finish top 3 in the PAC 12 because the PAC 12 kinda blows. I think they’re a team that could develop and may end up looking like a nice win on selection Sunday.

@Mgkcbb brought up a good point, comparing it to Purdue destroying Arizona last year. Overrated to start the season, lost some games in the non-con, but did well in the weakest power 5 basketball conference, and ended up being a nice win, even though they lost to Buffalo in the first round. And I don’t think UCLA will end up at a 4 seed, or even close.
 
Nah. Just making fun of a stereotypical Purdue fan who lacks self awareness about their own program.


Says the idiot that touts his team as a blue blood but hasn’t been relevant in 30 years...nice one Biff
No one claims Rutgers, Maryland, or Indiana are good. The East has arguably the three best teams in the conference, though. The East has three top 15 teams while the West has zero.

East is stronger at the top but has two Mac teams at the bottom. West is more balanced
 
Says the idiot that touts his team as a blue blood but hasn’t been relevant in 30 years...nice one Biff


East is stronger at the top but has two Mac teams at the bottom. West is more balanced

Lol Indiana is a blue blood. And the East is way harder than the west.

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Says the idiot that touts his team as a blue blood but hasn’t been relevant in 30 years...nice one Biff


East is stronger at the top but has two Mac teams at the bottom. West is more balanced

If Indiana hasn't been relevant in 30 years, when is the last time Purdue was relevant?

(note: by your own logic you are saying Purdue's regular season finishes are irrelevant).
 
If Indiana hasn't been relevant in 30 years, when is the last time Purdue was relevant?

(note: by your own logic you are saying Purdue's regular season finishes are irrelevant).
This is a fair counterpoint to Joe's premise.

I think a better approach would be to say that IU is no different than Purdue in the past quarter century. One Final Four - while better than anything Purdue has mustered since '80 - isn't the difference between a program being a contemporary blue blood.
 
UCLA lost too 2 good teams by a lot (played UNC tough, final score doesn’t tell the whole story)

Look, I’m not claiming UCLA is great, or even good, but they have some talent (Moses Brown, Kris Wilkes, Jaylen Hands) and they’ll probably finish top 3 in the PAC 12 because the PAC 12 kinda blows. I think they’re a team that could develop and may end up looking like a nice win on selection Sunday.

@Mgkcbb brought up a good point, comparing it to Purdue destroying Arizona last year. Overrated to start the season, lost some games in the non-con, but did well in the weakest power 5 basketball conference, and ended up being a nice win, even though they lost to Buffalo in the first round. And I don’t think UCLA will end up at a 4 seed, or even close.

UCLA got blown out twice already and struggled vs 2-5 Long Beach State (60-59 with 12 minutes left to play).
 
This is a fair counterpoint to Joe's premise.

I think a better approach would be to say that IU is no different than Purdue in the past quarter century. One Final Four - while better than anything Purdue has mustered since '80 - isn't the difference between a program being a contemporary blue blood.

Yes that would be a better approach
 
UCLA got blown out twice already and struggled vs 2-5 Long Beach State (60-59 with 12 minutes left to play).
Okay? That’s a team with some talented pieces that could put it together and do well in a terrible conference. May end up as a good win. I never claimed they were good right now.
 
This is a fair counterpoint to Joe's premise.

I think a better approach would be to say that IU is no different than Purdue in the past quarter century. One Final Four - while better than anything Purdue has mustered since '80 - isn't the difference between a program being a contemporary blue blood.

I’m still waiting for @SNU0821 to show us some of these posts pre-season where we were unrealistically optimistic and acted like we are Bama. Assuming he’s given this up as he realized he was way off.
 
I am simply going off of KenPom. All of his numbers are down this year per KenPom. Maybe he has improved dramatically on the defensive end, the only game I got to see MSU play from start to finish was Kansas and I thought him and Langford played poorly on the defensive end that game.
I think you need to reflect on your ability to interpret stats, e.g. Illinois is a final 4 team.
 
I’m still waiting for @SNU0821 to show us some of these posts pre-season where we were unrealistically optimistic and acted like we are Bama. Assuming he’s given this up as he realized he was way off.
You didn’t come out and say Purdue was going to win 12 games. It was more the way you were hyping up how good your coach is, how good your recruiting was (which it was at the beginning of the period and you had a lot of recruits, not high quality recruits) and talking down to other programs like you guys actually have some grand history of being a powerhouse program. Go look through the off season B10 thread before the football season started and go to the IU Rivals free board and you get a good sense of how YOU specifically were hyping your program.

And if you’re honestly going to tell me you weren’t hyping your program, you’re no different than Mgkcbb or JohnHoosier or the other Purdue trolls here. Just because you didn’t come out and say you would win 12 games doesn’t mean you weren’t doing what I said you were.
 
how good your recruiting was (which it was at the beginning of the period and you had a lot of recruits, not high quality recruits)
The early signing period is in three weeks and Purdue has a top-25 class as things stand. Only Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State have more 4/5 star recruits in the B1G for 2019 right now.
 
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