That’s what happens when you start 17-0, just can’t lose @PSU and to @Iowa by 25pts
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That’s what happens when you start 17-0, just can’t lose @PSU and to @Iowa by 25pts
A weak ass NCSOS of 308 doesn’t get you ready for the ****ing show
Baer's other key stats by total's in 19.6 mpg
steals 31 and 32 blocks, 2nd on the team in rebounds. Cook leads the team in rebounding
these are the top scorers
Cook 15.3
Garza 12.6
Bohannon 11.5
Wieskamp 10.9
Moss 9.1
Baer 6.8
Goins is avg'ing 29.2 mpg 9.6 more ppg than Baer, Baer was the BT 6th MOY as a RSSO. AND this is Goins best year. the other years are not even close.
please don't use just 1 year and declare someone the best.
Baer has been consistent his entire career.
Candidly, Cash won it when Carsen went 7-40 at IU and Nebraska. Had Michigan won yesterday and Carsen went off, I could have seen Carsen get a few more votes but I still think Cash would have won.
Yeah that’s not exactly how that went down. When you show you can’t shoot the defense packs it in
MSU fans: How do you feel knowing that if the Indiana score holds you could play them again?
Goins
17-18 season
2.1 ppg 2.8 rpg 12 steals, 22 blocks 45.8% from the field, 26.5% from 3
16-17
3.4 ppg 4.5 rpg 8 steals 21 blocks 57.8% from the field 0% from 3
2.0 ppg 2.9 rpg 4 steals 11 blocks 20-29 from the field 0% from 3
Baer 2017-18 season
5.3 ppg 5.0 rpg, 27 steals 23 blocks 42.8% from the field 30.7% from 3
16-17 season
7.5 ppg 5.8 rpg, 48 steals, 43 blocks
BT 6th MOY.
15-16
4.8 ppg 2.6 rpg, 23 steals, 19 blocks, 49.6% from the field 39.4% from 3
Baer has been far better than Goins his entire career
again you use just 1 season to justify your claim that Goins is the best walk on.
I use 4 seasons to make my claim.
There is certainly some of that but in the games I've watched, they have had opportunities to get the ball to Morgan and appeared to have forgot he was on the court at times.
Nobody gives a fvck Goins is better.
that's the problem you ignore the facts comparing the 2. oh wait Baer is playing for Iowa so he has to be the scum scrapped off the bottom of the barrel.
First Team
Cassius Winston - Michigan State
Ethan Happ - Wisconsin
Carsen Edwards - Purdue
Bruno Fernando - Maryland
Zavier Simpson - Michigan
Second Team
Jordan Murphy - Minnesota
Amir Coffey - Minnesota
Anthony Cowan - Maryland
Lamar Stevens - Penn State
Tyler Cook - Iowa
Third Team
Juwan Morgan - Indiana
Ignas Brazdeikis - Michigan
Romeo Langford - Indiana
James Palmer - Nebraska
Derek Pardon - Northwestern
All-Defense
Zavier Simpson - Michigan
Jon Teske - Michigan
Matt Haarms - Purdue
Josh Reaves - Penn State
Matt McQuaid - Michigan State
All-Freshman
Romeo Langford - Indiana
Ignas Brazdeikis - Michigan
Ayo Dosunmu - Illinois
Giorgi Bezhanishvili - Illinois
Joe Wieskamp - Iowa
POY: Cassius Winston - Michigan Stage
FOY: Romeo Langford - Indiana
6th Man: Rasir Bolton - Penn State
COY: Matt Painter - Purdue
Cassius Winston - Michigan State
Ethan Happ - Wisconsin
Carsen Edwards - Purdue
Bruno Fernando - Maryland
Zavier Simpson - Michigan
Second Team
Jordan Murphy - Minnesota
Amir Coffey - Minnesota
Anthony Cowan - Maryland
Lamar Stevens - Penn State
Tyler Cook - Iowa
Third Team
Juwan Morgan - Indiana
Ignas Brazdeikis - Michigan
Romeo Langford - Indiana
James Palmer - Nebraska
Derek Pardon - Northwestern
All-Defense
Zavier Simpson - Michigan
Jon Teske - Michigan
Matt Haarms - Purdue
Josh Reaves - Penn State
Matt McQuaid - Michigan State
All-Freshman
Romeo Langford - Indiana
Ignas Brazdeikis - Michigan
Ayo Dosunmu - Illinois
Giorgi Bezhanishvili - Illinois
Joe Wieskamp - Iowa
POY: Cassius Winston - Michigan Stage
FOY: Romeo Langford - Indiana
6th Man: Rasir Bolton - Penn State
COY: Matt Painter - Purdue
He scored no less than 14 points in every game in January, so that certainly wasn’t the issue in those games.
Had a few bad games in February
When deron and race were limited/out I think he was getting rode too hard. He was definitely playing at less than 100%.
It's not an apples to apples comparison.
Baer scored more and rebounded more when Iowa was a trash team 2 out of the last 4 years. This will be only his 2nd ncaa tournament, this year. No banners.
Goins played behind NBA lottery picks in Miles Bridges, JJJ, has won 2 B1G titles, and has made 4 straight NCAA tournaments. And he's better than Baer in every statistical category this year.
Jalen before Wieskamp.
Jalen averaging 11.5 pts, 6.7 boards, 1 assist with a defensive rating of 100 in conference play
Wieskamp averaging 11 points, 4.7 boards, and 1 assist with a defensive rating of 108.4.
Everything else looks good except Ignas should probably be 2nd team, Cowan probably 3rd.
Big Ten champs!
Would be nice to have been healthy and had an outright title but we can share it with a less deserving Purdue team.
Tom Izzo BTCOY and Cassius Winston BTPOY.
Would be nice to have been healthy and had an outright title but we can share it with a less deserving Purdue team.
Tom Izzo BTCOY and Cassius Winston BTPOY.
Less deserving? Lol. Not our fault you shit the bed at home against IU and lost to Illinois.
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Not sure I have ever loved and wanted a player to transfer more times in a season than Green
The Big Ten Tournament is going to be fun and wide open this year. If IU holds on here, it looks like they are locked into the 8/9 game and would play Michigan State again if they win Thursday. That is a much more interesting opening game for a top seed. Reminds me of the years Michigan upset top seeds IU and Purdue as a 8/9 seed.
I think any team can lose to any team this year. It might be all chalk or it could get crazy but it looks to be a really fun tournament.
I think any team can lose to any team this year. It might be all chalk or it could get crazy but it looks to be a really fun tournament.
I dont remember any chatter about Cassius Winston coming into the year as a potential player of the year winner. But he is the clear winner to me. Reminds me of last year with KBD of Ohio State where a guy who didnt get much preseason pub ends up running away with it.
Nope not at all...he's made mistakes this year and there are situations where I don't agree with his thoughts on that situation . But, so many of this years issues were completely out of his control.
How many times in your lifetime have you seen 5 college basketball players sitting on the bench in street clothes because of injuries? I've seen it maybe 6 or 7 times...all this year when I t happened to IU for 6 or 7 games.
However, if 2 or 3 years down the road his teams are still struggling to compete...I'll say I was wrong.
Pretty sure he was calling out your grammar homie.
It’s tough because of the injuries Izzo has dealt with makes it close.
Winston over Edwards
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