*Official* B1G In-Season Thread
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I agree with this completely. When Carsen has been off in recent games yet Purdue still won, it wasn’t against the best competition. That won’t be the case in the tournament. Like you said, I can see them beating almost anyone if Carsen is on but if he’s off, I could see a second round loss. Going into the year, I think even the most homer Purdue fans wouldn’t have predicted a Sweet 16. I think most would’ve guessed making the tournament and win a game. I’d be happy with a Sweet 16 but if we lose a second round game, I wouldn’t be as disappointed as I would’ve been with that same scenario with last years team if that makes sense.
You hit the nail on the head. Take the performance against IU. We would’ve been lucky to win the first round matchup in the tournament with that effort.
Not completely disagreeing but will point out that the idea that the competition in the tournament will be significantly superior is to be determined. As a 2 or 3 you will most certainly be playing poorer competition in the 1st game and in the 2nd could be playing pretty much the same kind of team we see on the road in the Big in a 6 or 7. Also Edwards was 4-19 against MSU and pretty sure MSU is considered decent competition.
True but compare this Purdue team to last year. Last year, if Carsen had a horrible game, you still had guys like Vince, Dakota, and Haas who could take over games on their own. I feel like last year’s roster had better scorers across the board. This year if Carsen has an off game, it’s up to Cline, Haarms, and Eastern. No offense to those 3 but I like the Vince/Dakota/Haas combo more as a complement to Carsen than what we have this year.
I think MSU will be the one school affected the most by Archie being hired. If Archie can continue his recruiting success, its going to come at the expense of MSU. He's basically been able to recruit whoever he wanted from the state. If Crean was still here, it would have resulted in you all getting TJD and possibly Brooks.
Disagree. IU has been playing much better basketball lately. Especially on defense. Against you guys, it might be the best they have played defensively all year. I don't think the effort was bad at all, TBH. I just thought it was two teams that were locked in defensively. As bad as IU has been(offensively), they have beenpretty darn good on the other side of the ball.
At worse, I do not see Purdue being any thing less than a 4 seed. I doubt you see a 13 or 14 seedes team as good defensively as IU was; at least that day.
You forgot to mention that it was a 9 PM tip that was going over on time even before the 1st overtime...and didn't end until after midnight. The majority of non students who were there also had over an hour drive home to get a couple of hours sleep before getting up for work the next day.
Yeah, he's pulling a gil here by saying that since the game was close it had to of been because they played bad. It couldn't have been that its possible that iu has finally started playing good basketball again.
He meant the best defense iu has played....not the best defensive team they've faced.
Look, IU played well defensively but Purdue absolutely played like garbage. Carsen was 4-24 or whatever he was with doing crap like missing a wide open dunk and a 7 footer on the baseline that was wiiide open, stuff he doesn’t normally do. Purdue was in a rut coming in to that game and it continued against IU.
I’m not comparing. I’m saying there are very few teams that will succeed if there best scoring option goes flat. Purdue and Carsen are not unique here. Purdue at least has the knowledge they can win with a Carsen off night. They won’t tend to freak out - been there done that. Now he has an off game against a really solid opponent then that probably won’t end well. Nature of the tournament.
Pretty sure he is saying that Indiana that night may have been the best defense Purdue has faced. I don’t agree.
Just re-read the post, idk how you thought he was saying IU was the best defensive team Purdue had played all year. He said Purdue probably wouldn’t play a 13 or 14 seed that played D as well as IU.
I think you are misunderstanding my post.....I said it was the best defense IU played all year.
The best defense that IU played (themselves) or the best defense IU played (against)?
IU played very good defensively. Especially on Edwards. He was clearly frustrated. Look, Purdue is the much better teeam. But I think Indiana's effort on defense had a ton to do with Purdue starting , what, 2-16 from three. IU contested shots. Hell even the shots Cline hit were highly contested. At times, Indiana can be really good defensively. That night was one of them. And hell, even yesterday vs MSU.
Its OK sometimes to tip ypu hat to the hitter/pitcher, and just acknowledge, "good pitch/hit".
Oh I see. The best IU has personally played, not that IU that night was the best defensive team in the country. Got it.
TBH, Hail.....I didn't think it was that difficult to understand. But hell, now you have me confused...
I was saying-----That versus Purdue, I think it was the best defense Indiana had played all season. Not the best defense Purdue has faced. Just that Indiana was very, very good that night defensively.
Understand?
I said they played well defensively. I’m just saying Purdue got in it’s own way a lot that night.
Fair. I think for the past 3-4 games, IU has been pretty darn good defensively. Now if they could just score..
Damn, that is one longgggg list. Here is the thing tho, Izzo seems to do better with four stars IMO. Am I wrong?
I'm glad Beilein doesn't spend too much time on five stars. Most are headaches and, most importantly, it is all gamed (for the most part) to the blue bloods and the sleazy cheaters and cheating schools (Duke, UK, KU and Arizona recently).
But Izzo still kicks Archie's as a coach. Yes, I know they swept them. Total fluke and IU fans realize this. Lol
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As IUBordenfan or whatever his name is would say, feel free to show what the officials were missing or calling for Iowa.
The refs were actually calling Rutgers for all the reaching and hand checking and pushing and bumping that they haven't been in the previous 7 games.
And they probably could've called them for more.
Teams need to stop fouling if they don't want to get called for fouls..........or they can stop employing that try-hard trash tactic of bump and grind defense (that is going to cost them in the NCAA tournament anyway), just so they can beat Iowa.
Please refrain from using my name in anything related to officiating.
Thank you.
I think he was saying that was the best IU's defense played all season. Honestly, not sure how anything other then this could have been taken from his post?
Wth are you talking about? Lol what part of my post made you think I was making that argument?
Of course, Izzo has decades of results to build his resume. That can't be negated by 2 wins in a random season. Hell, I don't care if the next 2 seasons IU ends up undefeated with the roster being made up with only kids who are in wheelchairs, its going to be many years from now where that conversation could even be considered....if ever. Izzo has a phenomenal track record that takes many years to get on that level.
IU beat them twice.....That's a fluke? I mean I'm not arguing IU's better----they are not. But i mean, beating them once, OK.....But beating them twice? Meh.....to each their own.
Day to day. Played fine without him today. Need him back for the tournament for depth though.
Pretty crazy to think that the starting 5 that just won on the road at Maryland could all be back next year.
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