The defensive rating is adjusted for strength of schedule.
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The defensive rating is adjusted for strength of schedule.
Yep. WHich is what I was pointing out. Reclassifying "hurt" his stock.
Going to be a really good game. Unfortunately...I have a 7:30 tip myself.Maryland moving into the top 20 of Kenpom for the next 8 hours
You're arguably the best Purdue poster here
Because I don't thiink he's Michigan's best player. Might be the most important. I just don't think he's Michigan's best. Personally, I think its Iggy or Poole.
He only scored 10 pts at Assembly Hall last season. And three of those came on a breakaway steal and one...
Yeah, that is odd. I think you and Cardinal are easily the best Purdue guys here.
I’ll be honest I feel this place is getting overrun more and more with shit posters from all fan bases, IU not excluded.
Offensively sure, but Simpson is an elite defender. Maybe the best defender in the conference.
I want to see a Cash Simpson rematch so badly. Simpson beat Cash last year for sure but Cash has improved a lot. I’m sure Simpson has too.
Put him and cardinal together. Boilers Otto and 1987 like to make too many shitty hot takes and take a stance when there is none to take.
The way you phrased that killed me, lmao
Yeah, not on as much as a few years ago. I blame having kids. They F up my free time (but worth it!)
We are still a few years away from that, but I will be excited when the time comes.
Agree. Each player has their significance. I mean for the make-up of this IU team, Phinisee might be our most important part. IU really struggles at the PG spot, when Green has to play a lot of minutes there. As good as Morgan and Romeo are, if you are "meh
at the "1", things won't bold well.
I think WIlliams needs to play more. A lot more. And IF he can get into shape, dude is gonna be a beast. Like the kid a lot.
Last night was the first time I really watched Purdue. Just a couple of things:
1. Why doesn't Carsen drive more? He took 16 shots last night. 14 were three's. I mean, wow....He's way to good to be settling for 14 three's, on 16 shots. Especially when not going in.
2. Surprised Carsen isn't cleared out for more. I guess this could falls into place with the above. I just think Purdue should try to get him matched-up with switches, and create some mismatches with other bigs.
3. Williams needs to play more. Haarms less. Haarms is no threat whatsoever offemsively. Plus he's nowhere near the rebounder Williams is. Haarms to me has regressed, and pretty much turned into a "Put back guy".
4. Purdue has some nice sets...But they come predictable. Especially that little triangle set they run off the elbow. Seems there would be some more variables out that.
Purdue shoots way, way to many bad, three's. Waaaaaaaay to many. Bad shots make good shooters, bad shooters.
Just my thoughts. If three's ain't falling, Purdue is going to be in trouble. I mean they might have to shoot high 40% or more, to win.
1. Why doesn't Carsen drive more? He took 16 shots last night. 14 were three's. I mean, wow....He's way to good to be settling for 14 three's, on 16 shots. Especially when not going in.
2. Surprised Carsen isn't cleared out for more. I guess this could falls into place with the above. I just think Purdue should try to get him matched-up with switches, and create some mismatches with other bigs.
3. Williams needs to play more. Haarms less. Haarms is no threat whatsoever offemsively. Plus he's nowhere near the rebounder Williams is. Haarms to me has regressed, and pretty much turned into a "Put back guy".
4. Purdue has some nice sets...But they come predictable. Especially that little triangle set they run off the elbow. Seems there would be some more variables out that.
Purdue shoots way, way to many bad, three's. Waaaaaaaay to many. Bad shots make good shooters, bad shooters.
Just my thoughts. If three's ain't falling, Purdue is going to be in trouble. I mean they might have to shoot high 40% or more, to win.
One game, especially a poorly played one, is not always an indicator of how things go. But I'll address a few of your comments.
1) Prior to last night, Carsen had attempted more 2's than 3's. MSU took away his driving lane by hedging hard when he tried to get moving downhill. Very well defended by them.
2) It's hard to do a clearout when teams are more concerned with Carsen in the lane than they are with others behind the 3P line. We normally have at least 2 players on the court that aren't really 3P threats. Not good.
3) Williams is still working on his conditioning. Last night was max minutes for him. I also think his success is very matchup driven at this point. That said, I did like what I saw last night. Haarms had actually been trending well but was never able to get into the flow since he had 4 fouls in 10 minutes.
4) It's hard to run sets when MSU has 6 players on the court. They were allowed a 6th, right? it sure seemed like it.
One would think that if MSU put that much focus on not letting Edwards beat them he’d rack up a handful of assists, how many did he end with?
CardinalBoiler is like the Purdue MileHighSpartan. Great to read when it’s not in a debate with you, frustrating when it is.
Gotcha....I just felt he(Carsen) needs more of a mid-range game.
Also, I've watched Purdue plenty. Just last night was the first I actually watched an entore game----And paid attention..
Weak call against Ohio State, but a HUGE break not having that 3rd foul on Wesson
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Singling out Purdue at MSU is a bit disingenuous. Most teams won’t go into MSU and do well. Carsen was a no show and it was down to a 4 point game in the second half. So yeah whatever. MSU is clearly better. IU on the other hand...not MSU.
SPin it how ya like. Bottom line----Vs Two top teams, Purdue has been smashed.
3-16.......
As opposed to one top team where IU was “smashed”? Of course you made up for that by playing Penn St and NW tight. IU has played Illinois (8 point win Home) NW (2 point win home) and Penn St. (2 point win away) and UM(ass kicked away). Impressive to say the least. You got yours coming- enjoy it.
BoilerZ, this is what I am getting at though....He's attempted 139 2PA, compared to 148 three's. Just seems he's way to dependent on three. IMO, he's waaaaay to talented to do so.Needs that mid-range game.
Also, and just a question---But do you feel he takes a lot of three's trying to show scouts he can hit that shot? Just seems odd for a kid of his talent, to have more three's, than 2's.
I like our team a hell of a lot more than Purdue's. Plus you forget to mention IU was w/o Rob Phinisee, starting PG, @ Michigan. Or against Illinois. Yet still, @ UM, w/o Phin or Davis, with ROmeo and Morgan in foul trouble, IU still managed to hang around. But that part doesn't fit your agenda. Purdue hasn't had to deal with the injuries IU has. You had better hope you don't. IU has yet have a game where everyone is available.
Keep telling yourself PU and IU are equal. We'll see where this stands in about a month. When hopefully IU is healthy. Even as we are now---I'd take IU over Purdue.
Edit: BTW, IU has wins over Marquette, Butler and Louisville. Purdue's best win is MD---at Mackey. After that-----Its Davidson.
Maybe I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that, in order to record an assist, the person who receives the pass actually has to make a shot.
MSU is beating B1G opponents by an average of 19.2 points per game
Michigan is beating B1G opponents by an average of 11.3
A lot of teams have been smashed by those two.
He's such the focus of opposing defenses that sometimes he resorts to shooting 27 footers. That is skewing his distribution. And it's hard to have a midrange game when opponents can collapse.
And no, from everything I've seen and read about Carsen Edwards (it's a lot), I absolutely don't think his play has anything to do with anything other than wanting to win basketball games right now.
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