Just checked this thread. 50 pages since i last posted. Holy shit!
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The thing is Beilein didn't recruit Tillman even tho his mom is a UM alum. Didn't have the perimeter skills he wants in a big and he wants length and shot blocking in his bigs, not a Tillman strength. Esp since he only plays one big, unlike Izzo. Flip side is Izzo tried to recruit Teske but he was never that interested.
I would say both players ended up at the programs that fit them the best and they fit their programs better then the other. Both coaches did well evaluating in how the player fit what they wanted, esp Beilein with Tillman. Both schools and players are happy where they are and are playing well.
Xavier Tillman has a higher block percentage than Teske does. He also has good perimeter skills for a guy his size. Teske is lengthier and taller, while X is a bit shorter and more athletic.
Tillman was the higher rated recruit out of the two and is also a year younger.
That’s also BS that Izzo recruited Teske and Teske just wasn’t interested. Nick Ward was a top 50 recruit already at center for us and was much more highly rated. Teske was plan C. Didn’t even recieve an offer. I’m not sure where you got that from.
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I agree that both programs are happy with who they got, but I'm not sure I agree with the rest of it. Tillman and Teske weren't even in the same class.
Tillman is 4th in blocks in the B1G, one behind Teske (but Tillman has a higher block%). Teske definitely has more length, but Tillman can guard more positions. Tillman a better rebounder. Doesn't fit the mold of a typical Beilein 4-man, I agree. I'd argue that Teske isn't a typical Beilein 5 either. He's not really a Wilson or Wagner, with an ability to shoot from distance or take his man off the dribble.
Teske was not heavily recruited at all by MSU. He's in the same 2016 class that Nick Ward, Miles Bridges, Cash, and Langford were in. I'm not sure he had an offer or was even watched by Izzo?
None of that is a rip on Teske, but I don't recall MSU showing any interest and disagree with some of your takes on Tillman's strengths. His strengths are pretty much identical to Teskes, other than size
This is how pretty much all of our games have been played. We had second half leads in 8 of our 10 losses.
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Yea, it's tough to really find any comparable UM players to Teske. In years past, before Beilein started putting much more emphasis on Defense... He just didn't really have shot blocking 7-footers. DJ Wilson mostly played the 4 alongside Mo, but he's really the only lengthy shot blocker I can remember from UM over the last few years.
Previous Centers were Horford, Donnal?, Ricky Doyle maybe? Teske is a better defender and bigger than all of those guys.
no I am stating that 1000's of kids have died from cancer that never got the attention or do the things he did. St. Judes hospitals, Shriner hospital are full of kids that may never get to do the things he did and they get little to none when it comes to do what he did.
the day Iowa started the wave right the game was done a child that saw the wave for the 1st AND LAST wave passed away. the University never made a media event out of it.
the reality is CANCER KILLS it is not something that needs to be glorified by anyone.
you have a problem with that, can't help you.
You are a massive piece of trash. I wonder what Bossi would think of you posting here, Corky.
Fran was without a key starter in Garza the center that has been key in defending the rim and the lane. Haarms had a 5" height advantage over his next tallest players.
they won on their floor vs a team that was short 4 scholarship players one of which was a major starter on this years team.
don't recall ANYONE saying that Iowa was going to win many games on the road. unless of course most of you were saying they would. before the game the point spread was Purdue -8.
what you were expecting Iowa to go into Purdue's stadium and WIN?
SHUT. THE. HELL. UP
You do realize that Tyler helped create a voice for those thousands of kids who weren't in the spotlight? And he helped raise a significantly large amount of money for cancer research and even donated his tumors for research? He had the opportunity to spread his message to people across the world and did so admirably. He wanted to truly make a difference with the time he had and he did. You do realize that the things he was able to do can help others who are struggling with cancer and the money he helped raise can possibly help cure people in the future? He didn't ask to receive all of this attention, it simply happened and he took advantage of the opportunities he was given.
Your post is absolutely ridiculous for many reasons. You do realize that Tyler Trent organized people at Purdue to wave to the camera during the Purdue/Iowa game to honor the tradition Iowa created right? I'm guessing you must have missed that.
It's about awareness. Maybe you could use some of it.
I don’t remember Izzo being much interested in Jon Teske. I think Teske would fit UM/MSU’s system but Tillman isn’t a Beilein player. Izzo loves those 6’6-6’9 players that can play the 3 or 4. Anderson, Morgan, Gray, Green, Bridges, Tillman, and Dawson all come to mind. Different strengths offensively but each player was athletic and could do fairly well defensively/rebounding.
Give me a bit and I'll pull up some of your garbage takes. But first, let's address you claiming we couldn't be better because we "don't have any shooters" on our team. Care to address that? Not a question we're a better team this year and even shooting a better percentage than you had hoped we were going to.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...ers-penn-state-apologizes-shoving-myles-dread
ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- Penn State coach Patrick Chambers apologized following Thursday night's loss at Michigan after he shoved one of his players during a timeout.
No. 2 Michigan beat Penn State 68-55. With 10:52 left in the first half, the ESPN broadcast showed footage of a fired-up Chambers in a huddle, reaching out with one arm and pushing freshman guard Myles Dread in the chest.
Chambers addressed the incident in his postgame news conference, without being asked about it.
"I absolutely love, love Myles Dread. He committed to us as a sophomore. So I've known him forever, him and his parents," Chambers said. "Absolutely love him. I apologize to him. I was just trying to challenge him, just trying to get the best out of him, and hopefully I'll do it differently next time. No, not hopefully. I will do it a different way next time."
No. 2 Michigan beat Penn State 68-55. With 10:52 left in the first half, the ESPN broadcast showed footage of a fired-up Chambers in a huddle, reaching out with one arm and pushing freshman guard Myles Dread in the chest.
Chambers addressed the incident in his postgame news conference, without being asked about it.
"I absolutely love, love Myles Dread. He committed to us as a sophomore. So I've known him forever, him and his parents," Chambers said. "Absolutely love him. I apologize to him. I was just trying to challenge him, just trying to get the best out of him, and hopefully I'll do it differently next time. No, not hopefully. I will do it a different way next time."
FU can't stand the truth or were you Predicting Iowa to go 20-0 in BT play and go 40-0 with a National Championship?
I do have awareness after spending 40+ years to working with children with handicaps. being physically and mentally abused, something that you will NEVER no matter how long you live will ever see.
the worst were 2 young boys that were put into scaulding hot water just because they were not potty training fast enough. their Buttock's, their private blistered. don't tell me about AWARENESS.
Since non conference play is done here are NCSOS rating per Kenpom as of 1/4
1. Purdue-41
2. Wisconsin-63
3. Illinois-66
4. Penn State-82
5. MSU-95
6. Nebraska-150
7. Ohio State-240
8. Indiana-251
9. Minnesota-266
10. Maryland-279
11. Rutgers-287
12. Michigan-300
13. Northwestern-327
14. Iowa-336
1. Purdue-41
2. Wisconsin-63
3. Illinois-66
4. Penn State-82
5. MSU-95
6. Nebraska-150
7. Ohio State-240
8. Indiana-251
9. Minnesota-266
10. Maryland-279
11. Rutgers-287
12. Michigan-300
13. Northwestern-327
14. Iowa-336
I could give a rat's ass about Tillman having a better block rate than Teske.
There is so much that Teske alters that doesn't find the box score. If you see someone 7'1" in the lane your immediate thought will be that you have to shoot it to the moon to avoid the block. This is what happens when Teske is in the game. Ball does a weird ricochet off the rim or backboard and Matthews or Iggy cleans it up.
You see someone 6'8" like Tillman and you think it won't be blocked, but his quickness gets that stat. Tillman is a great defender, but this is not an apples to apples comparison. Teske is somewhat instructed to be a big tree out there and not get out of place.
There is so much that Teske alters that doesn't find the box score. If you see someone 7'1" in the lane your immediate thought will be that you have to shoot it to the moon to avoid the block. This is what happens when Teske is in the game. Ball does a weird ricochet off the rim or backboard and Matthews or Iggy cleans it up.
You see someone 6'8" like Tillman and you think it won't be blocked, but his quickness gets that stat. Tillman is a great defender, but this is not an apples to apples comparison. Teske is somewhat instructed to be a big tree out there and not get out of place.
He got canned. @Eric Bossi Is the guy I would tag. He banned him a while back for a year, but he keeps making new screen names.
I don’t think anyone really cares. They’re two different players. Their main similarity is they both play basketball.
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