That was one of my upset locks (and Syracuse over MSU). Both helped me out in my bracket, and I bet moneyline on both.
This year my upset locks were laughably bad. Other than Murray St.
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This year my upset locks were laughably bad. Other than Murray St.
I don't know a ton about Few. Is there any indication on whether he's a lifer, or is entertaining offers?
Also, has Gregg Marshall's luster worn off? He was a hot name for a while.
I’m sure he’s in a second tier list. Saw Shaka’s name get brought up. I wouldn’t like that hire if I was a UM fan
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I assumed Maryland would grab Gregg. They took Mark who did much less at Whichita State than Gregg.
I know how much this group loves tiered rankings, so:
Tier 1 - Izzo
Tier 2 - Painter
Tier 3 - Holtmann, Hoiberg, Gard, Miller, Turgeon
Tier 4 - McCaffrey, Pitino, Underwood
Tier 5 - Pikiell, Chambers, Collins
I was wrong, really thought new guy was MJ. MJ knew some shit even though he loved to make wildly bold predictions. New guy doesn’t know the Penny-Memphis connection. Thinks we got Turge from WSU.
One change, other than that, I agree at this point. Think Holtmann and Miller have potential to move up, but we'll need to see additional results to make that call. Hoiberg is a tough one to peg right now. He's a good coach, but he's at Nebraska. Not sure how high he can go there.
What has Gard done to deserve to be listed w/ Painter. I get the elite 8 but his track record without the majority of Bo recruits has been less than stellar especially in Big Ten play. No COY’s, no Conference titles.
I don't have a huge objection to Gard being on Tier 2, but I'm hesitant to put him there until he has another couple seasons of success with his own guys. Fair or not, I have a hard time giving him a bunch of credit for those first two years.
That's fair. For me, it's more about him just continuing the program that Bo left. I was curious to see if they dropped off or not, and it doesn't seem like they're going to do so. I think he's a really solid coach. He got them to the Elite 8, regardless of having Bo's players, that's still hard to do. He gets partial credit for that one. I gave him the benefit of the doubt at this point. If he doesn't produce over the next couple years, which I think he will, I can move him down.
Really?
I'd be happy as a fan of every other team in the B1G, if UM hired Shaka. He sucks.
Oh I would be super happy
Damn it that should say I wouldn’t like that hire if I were a UM fan will correct.
Gard has 2 sweet 16's. No Elite eights. Should have 2 but we pissed down our legs twice. I have no problem with him being in tier 2 w/ painter or tier 3.
Gard has 0 zero conference titles, has 0 b1g tournament titles, and has never been to an elite eight. He's definitely not the same level of coach as painter.
Also Archie at best is a tier 4 coach. Couldn't even make the tournament with a roster loaded with 4 and 5 star talent.
Not sure i agree with this. They only had 3 that played in Justin Smith, Romeo and Rob Phinisee i believe? They fired Tom for a reason.
Their roster was loaded with 4 stars, and a consensus top 10 player in romeo. Archie missing the tournament this year was a horrible coaching job.
He choked this year without a doubt just don't think they were loaded with 4 and 5 stars like you said. I actually think Archie is a good coach after watching him at Dayton but this last year they looked lost most of the year when i watched them.
You predicted something like a 4 seed for your team at the beginning of the year. Lol
Crean made a final 4 at Marquette. Archie lucking into an elite 8 at Dayton really isn't that impressive to me.
I don't disagree with that but not sure what it was to do with the above statement.
Top 100 guys aren’t studs (yes I know Ivey isn’t too 100 but think there’s a chance he will be)?
You were referring to him as being a good coach from his Dayton coaching days. I was pointing out crean accomplished more while at Marquette yet still failed while at iu. I don't put much stock into what he accomplished at Dayton because to me none of it was very impressive.
It was more than just an elite 8 run. They always seemed to play hard and he won their conference a few times. They didn't do so well under Anthony Grant.
I just don't see him as being anything special. Lots of mid major coaches with better resumes failed once moving to the p5 level.
I see him as an upper middle level coach. He is young so hard to exactly pin him down but I don't think the past two years is his ceiling by any means.
Still can’t believe you think Joe for prez is a mod. Laughing
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