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Timing may not have been good, but there isn't a coach in America that wouldn't leave UMass to coach in the NBA or Memphis for UK. People thinking he left those programs just to skirt penalties make me laugh. You don't get offered jobs like those every day.
Memphis wasn’t in shambles. They made the post season 4 of the next 5 years with a first time head coach. Calipari left Memphis in great condition.
I’m not sure about Umass. They weren’t put on probation and no penalties were levied against them. The ncaa doesn’t consider vacated games a punishment.
That article focuses on Rose and Memphis response. It doesn't go into detail. Now sadly I can't find the article I read on it that gives all the details. Just bits and pieces from Rose's wiki page on it.
The one thing Memphis did wrong was they did not report Rose's SAT scores under question to the NCAA. The learned his SAT scores were under investigation shortly after Rose enrolled at Memphis. When first notified by the NCAA that Rose was being called ineligible they told the NCAA they did not know about this and were shocked. Later they finally told the NCAA that they learned about Rose's questionable SAT score shortly after Rose enrolled and they conducted their own investigation into his scores and determined they had no proof that someone else took Rose's test. NCAA was not notified of these questionable scores. Memphis contended because they know the rules and did their own investigation and cleared Rose that they should not be held accountable for Rose's actions.
Now sorry. That doesn't prove Cal cheated or knew or anything like that. Just lumped Cal and Memphis together on that.
The NCAA cleared Rose twice. Memphis asked them to clear Rose. .twice. Then they come back in May with "new information".
To me, Rose hung Memphis and Cal out to dry to save his own hyde. That's my opinion on that, but the bottom line is it was proven that Cal knew nothing about the SAT issue and was never charged with anything.
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Oh, but Bill Self would put everything on the line? Why?
Have you forgotten that your program has been involved in several (known) scandals throughout its history? That Sutton was caught red-handed paying players? Ah, but things are diffffferent now. This is Cal after all. Worldwide Wes's buddy. There have been players who took impermissable benefits or cheated at EVERY school at which he's coached (including Kentucky w/ Noel, Knox, Bam), strong rumors of Anthony Davis receiving 200k, and every year he gets commits from future NBA stars. He's enjoyed literally twice as much talent as anyone else (at least anyone not named Duke). But somehow he convinced all these dudes to play for free (or had zero knowledge of them accepting money) in everyone's top destinations Memphis TN and Lexington Kentucky, while Bill Self and others have to cheat to get a fraction of this talent. Sounds rational.
Bottom line: Your fanbase is desperate to be vindicated because Kentucky basketball is your identity. FFS it's a game. Played by 18-year-olds,
Bill can still hide behind "innocent until proven guilty" too. Because the testimony under oath is that Self and the staff had no knowledge of payments. The FBI's own reports labeled KU a "victim," remember?
But KU fans aren't burying their heads in the sand. Anyone who opens their eyes can see how this stuff works. Aside from that, as I've said, I've talked to a former AAU coach who confirmed it. If you don't believe that, take it from this guy:
Calipari's own words tell you that it's pervasive:
"If we have selective investigations and selective enforcement, it's not going to change."
But yeah...the guy who has landed by far the most hyped recruits is the only clean one. Sure, buddy!
You seem upset. Log off, go outside, get some air.
Check back in, let us know if you are ok.
I'm actually scared for the lives of the entire Kentucky fanbase. If the FBI and NCAA hammer Cal, they'll be falling from cliffs like lemmings.
You're trying pretty hard to spin this one, especially since the magnifying glass is on Self/KU right now, not Cal/UK. Everyone knows nearly all your posts are flames at UK, but you may want to re-think this one considering the precarious position your team is in right now.
Thanks for your concern. When we see Cals text messages like the ones Self, I'll get my jumping shoes on.
As of now, Self has been caught red handed, quit spinning on what you want to happen vs what is happening.
At the moment it is.
I just think it's hilarious.
Joe CBB fan: Cal is the dirtiest dude out there.
Kentucky fans circa 2009: Cal is the dirtiest dude out there.
Kentucky fans now: Cal is the only clean dude.
Rethink what?
My opinion is that Self knew about payments for De Sousa and probably others.
College basketball is dirty. Needs to be cleaned up. Maybe some good will come from all this.
If people want to sit on their high horse pretending that either this isn't pervasive or that Calipari has never cheated, go ahead. It just goes against any common sense.
Self got caught free texting like a teenage girl, all giddy, telling his man, "go get me some real players " wtf
Cal, K, and Ol Roy tell their kids to wait 9 months, the million dollar contract is coming.
This is a year away from getting resolved, enjoy your season. The NCAA has no clue how to fix this, you should tell Self to deny deny deny, and that the whole student body was offered the same benefits. Deny it.
Cal, K, and Ol Roy tell their kids to wait 9 months, the million dollar contract is coming.
This is a year away from getting resolved, enjoy your season. The NCAA has no clue how to fix this, you should tell Self to deny deny deny, and that the whole student body was offered the same benefits. Deny it.
Yeah! That's probably it!
Man, if only Bill had a fun home game experience to sell, or a culture of winning and draft picks...
You wasted a whole lot of time piecing this long post together. I read up to the Eddie Sutton reference and stopped.
You seem really upset for no reason at all.
No, I don't think Self has to cheat, but something is going on and it doesn't involve Calipari, it involves Self.
So you can throw stones at Cal, UK and UK fans, but you're just coming off as upset, disturbed and kinda like a spoiled brat going on a rant.
Why don't you go clean yourself up and take the rest of the day off.
LOL at thinking I'm upset. You're the one that comes off as an angry man child in this thread. Stomping your feet and plugging your ears.
Again...it's just a game. Please don't off yourself when the microscope shifts to Nike and Cal.
Respect!!!! At least you have the balls to make a ban bet when you think you’re right, others just talk shit without backing it up.
Kansas and Bill Self are dirty and we all know it. Finally he and Townsend were caught red handed.
Seems like a pretty good bet from my angle, considering it could only be proven that he did.
You can’t reason with Em man, they think U.K. basketball is God’s gift to the world. Everybody else has to cheat to keep up with the great U.K., who is so great they can get the recruits than anyone else without cheating bc it’s a blessing to get to attend school in Lexington Kentucky.
No one cheats as much as KU. An entire shoe company to funnel kids to one school. At least UK has to contend with other Nike schools.
Actually, Calipari isn't getting top recruits. He gets a few top ten guys, I think Fox was the last one he got that was even close to top 5, he was rated 6th, everyone else has been rated lower.
But if you were a talented player, wouldn't you go to a place that has put more kids in the NBA than anyone else the last 10 years?
Every game is on ESPN and you have reps come out from every NBA franchise, just to watch you practice in some if the best facilities in the country? Pretty easy decision to me.
Interesting coming from a UNC fan. Where denial of the facts have been going on for years. Facts show cheating for 20 years but you continue to bury your head in the sand.
While there are huge dollars involved in college sports, it is the big schools that get scrutinized the most. There are not many investigations into the illegal recruiting of 3 star and below players who get less under the table. The NCAA system is designed so that schools can skate around and/or bend the rules. In the good old days it was mostly point shaving that was the big crime. Today it about dollars spent currying favor from impoverished parents, guardians, etc. IMO what the NCAA should do is say "as of this date the rules are the rules, starting today they will be enforced and penalties will be stern. All teams are starting with a clean slate."
The BIG problem with your 'logic'..... Cal has ZERO NCAA Infractions against him.....ZERO.
Oh boy, this is really going to piss him off, he doesn't like facts that go against his bs agenda.
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