IU and UK fans. It's time.

[kyjeff1]

Oh hey, for you IU fans that wanted better cell phone service at football games, you're welcome.

You'll notice a bunch of equally spaced tan housing boxes mounted to the top rim of the stadium, there are antennas in there. We just finished optimizing those systems today.

I also had my guys place a UK t-shirt in one of the boxes. Sorry, had to do it.

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

You're getting too emotional over this Bert.

Nope, just factual.

Plus, the alleged threats on the refs would usually be taken seriously. When nothing comes of it generally assures you that the threats were not viable.

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

Oh hey, for you IU fans that wanted better cell phone service at football games, you're welcome.

You'll notice a bunch of equally spaced tan housing boxes mounted to the top rim of the stadium, there are antennas in there. We just finished optimizing those systems today.

I also had my guys place a UK t-shirt in one of the boxes. Sorry, had to do it.

Go Jeff.

Ben, Sam and I talked a lot about you last week.

 

[ExitFlagger]

Nope, just factual.

Plus, the alleged threats on the refs would usually be taken seriously. When nothing comes of it generally assures you that the threats were not viable.

"Were you serious about these threats, sir?"

"No."

"Close the case!"

 

[kyjeff1]

Go Jeff.

Ben, Sam and I talked a lot about you last week.

I hope it was all good things 😁

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

I hope it was all good things 😁

Just the truth!



PS: they love you and your wonderful wife. (The brains of the outfit!)

 

[kyjeff1]

Just the truth!



PS: they love you and your wonderful wife. (The brains of the outfit!)

I let her think she's the brains, that’s the best way.

What do you think about that motorhome? Looks like it's our turn to keep up with the Jones's. 😂

Tell the lovely wife I said hi. Hope we can get together again soon.

 

[CB3UK]

Sign me up for the IU series resuming. I'm all for it.

 

[HoosierstuckinIowa]

Have you ever seen us rush the court?

would you rather your fan base rush the court or make death threats to officials? Don't really care either way bro.....just happy this match-up is back on.

BTW....back from retirement....GFYS...I don't mean that unless it bothers you

 

[kyjeff1]

would you rather your fan base rush the court or make death threats to officials? Don't really care either way bro.....just happy this match-up is back on.

BTW....back from retirement....GFYS...I don't mean that unless it bothers you

If IU got jobbed the way UK did in a game with stakes that high, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if some IU fans reacted the way some UK fans did. Would you?

Did you watch that game? prolly not, y'all had already lost to G-tech in the NIT weeks before, so you prolly checked out. You should watch it.

 

[ExitFlagger]

If IU got jobbed the way UK did in a game with stakes that high, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if some IU fans reacted the way some UK fans did. Would you?

Did you watch that game? prolly not, y'all had already lost to G-tech in the NIT weeks before, so you prolly checked out. You should watch it.

It’s kind of weird to justify death threats, especially in regard to a game between college students, but do you have any clips of how they were “jobbed?”

 

[myliverhurts1]

If IU got jobbed the way UK did in a game with stakes that high, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if some IU fans reacted the way some UK fans did. Would you?

Did you watch that game? prolly not, y'all had already lost to G-tech in the NIT weeks before, so you prolly checked out. You should watch it.

Did you just justify death threats because you think you got jobbed? Take it out on your sister next time.

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

Did you just justify death threats because you think you got jobbed? Take it out on your sister next time.

Did you pass high school English? GEEZE!

 

[WojoRising]

It’s so sad to see the conferences and regional flair of the game die. Seeing something with actual historic significance return is a win for any fan of the game, no matter how small it may be.

 

[myliverhurts1]

Did you pass high school English? GEEZE!

Are you an actual ruhtard?

 

[IUBtown]

See this is fun.

 

[ExitFlagger]

Seriously…I realize that Kentucky fans blame the refs for every loss, but what are some examples of getting blatantly screwed in that game?

 

[IUfanBorden]

If IU got jobbed the way UK did in a game with stakes that high, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if some IU fans reacted the way some UK fans did. Would you?

Did you watch that game? prolly not, y'all had already lost to G-tech in the NIT weeks before, so you prolly checked out. You should watch it.

You mean like 1992, vs Duke----in a game where the stakes were higher---The Final Four. Probably one of the worst officiated games I;ve ever seen. And for many it seemed obvious Ted Valentine certainly had it out for Bob Knight. MOF, it was an absolute known fact Valentine did not like Knight. The result?

Many of many wtf fouls called by Valentine....Duke shot 42 FT's---IU 16. Indiana had Cheaney, Bailey, Nover, Graham and Henderson all foul out. Duke shot a FT or FT's on 53% of their FGA---IU on 20%. Indiana ended up with 33 fouls----Duke 18. In a game were both teams styles werre absolutely identical.

Can you imagine THIS^^^^, if it was a UK vs Duke, box score?

Or what 2012? UK shot 37 FT's to IU's 17....---Imagine if that had been reversed?

Even then, threatening an officials LIFE over a basketball game is ridiculous---but hey, it was a high stakes game. And you call out Indiana's fan base about being classless.

****ing pure gold the hypocirsy here.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Seriously…I realize that Kentucky fans blame the refs for every loss, but what are some examples of getting blatantly screwed in that game?

Name any call by Higgins...And you have a good chance of being right.

I like Bert---but to him,and this is me being serious, he doesn't feel UK has lost many, IF ANY games because the othr team was just as good, or better. Shit he probably blames UK's 9-16 season on the officials...

 

[IUfanBorden]

That was Higgins’ answer too.

Higgins highly respected official among coaches----Well, except one.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

• Higgins will no longer be refereeing college basketball games after accepting a new role on Monday. Higgins was named the new coordinator of the Western Basketball Officiating Consortium.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Two of the top 10.

1. Warning: Video contains NSFW language.
   Infraction: Fans of a blueblood program rushing after beating an overrated Fighting Illini team.
   As an IU basketball fan, this is one of those moments that all the bourbon in the world can't wash away.
   In the midst of an institutional trough, the embattled supporters of Indiana basketball let temporary excitement get the best of them and rushed the court after defeating No. 20 Illinois in Bloomington in 2011.
   It was a rare cathartic moment for a people who had suffered long in the post-Kelvin Sampson era, but rushing the court after beating a Bruce Weber-coached team is something these eyes can't ever un-see.

1. Fans of a team with five national championships in the rafters rushing the court after beating an unranked Minnesota team.
   I went through the Dark Ages of Indiana basketball.
   For some reason, the universe declared that my college experience at Indiana would take place during the worst four-year span in the basketball program's history, and I know too well how low things were in the post-Sampson era.
   That being said, I'll never be able to justify the tepid court rush that took place after the Hoosiers beat unranked Minnesota in 2010. The Golden Gophers weren't even a top-five Big Ten team.
   As I've written before, it was so inconsequential a win that I can't even find video of the rush.

Context is important---Its like saying, "dude was speeding, going almost 75MPH---yet forgetting to tell us the speed limit was 70.

Feel like I should copy and paste....IU was coming off two of the worst, if not THE worst seasons in their history; 6-25 and 10-22. IU was 1-3, 7-9 entering the game with Minny...The Golphers ended up in the NCAAT, and finsihsed 6th in the B10; at the time of the game, they were 3-1. Hard fought win in OT vs a good team----IU has lost 4 straight games, wheels were coming off---So lot of "emotion". What this guy should NOTE----is IU didn't rush the floor when they beat Michigan to open the B10 conference. It snapped an 11 game conference losing streak. Or that in 2009 when IU beat Iowa for thier only cofnerence win---no rush.

Illinois is a huge rivalry game. Yeah some, many IU fans may disagree---but this game is "hot".---AGAIN, IU in the midst of disaster. Had lost 8 of 9 entering thisw game. Was 1-6 in the B10...So knocking them off was a big deal to those kids.

See this is what fans of UNC, UK, Duke, KU, UCLA do not get. None of those programs have ever suffered through what this program went through in Creans first 3 years----6-25, 10-22 and 12-20. IU went 8-56 in the Big 10 those first three year..

EIGHT and FIFTY-SIX. And got shellacked more often than not.

So to say your fans wouldn't rush the floor under any circumstance---Naaah....You cannot say that.

Go 28-67, 8-56 over a three year span, and then talk to me.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Higgins highly respected official among coaches----Well, except one.

• Higgins will no longer be refereeing college basketball games after accepting a new role on Monday. Higgins was named the new coordinator of the Western Basketball Officiating Consortium.

Well deserved. These dudes are pretty good at their jobs. Our problem as fans is...

We are emotionally invested....

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

Are you an actual ruhtard?

I am.

I started out as a chemistry major but failed to make a living in that. (Total ruhtard in chemistry.)

I ended up an official of a large railroad.

Lots of hours at a lot of business schools.

Then I retired at 53 years old. Total failure.

Since then I had a ten year run as an elected official in local politics.

I am a purely, genuine ruhtard.



By the way, what have you done?

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

Name any call by Higgins...And you have a good chance of being right.

I like Bert---but to him,and this is me being serious, he doesn't feel UK has lost many, IF ANY games because the othr team was just as good, or better. Shit he probably blames UK's 9-16 season on the officials...

Stop the shit Borden, you do not like me.

You follow me around and bitch about UK.

So please just stop it!

 

[myliverhurts1]

I am.

I started out as a chemistry major but failed to make a living in that. (Total ruhtard in chemistry.)

I ended up an official of a large railroad.

Lots of hours at a lot of business schools.

Then I retired at 53 years old. Total failure.

Since then I had a ten year run as an elected official in local politics.

I am a purely, genuine ruhtard.



By the way, what have you done?

I signed up to rivals to read how dumb an old railroad-politician was… evidently.

 

[AWilli6995]

I remember UK fans taking Higgins to the woodshed in the EE 8 game in 2017 blaming him for the lost and yes I read comments where some UK fans threaten him and threatened his business.

Every fanbase has their share of idiots but to threaten a man and his livelihood over a game is way to much.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Stop the shit Borden, you do not like me.

You follow me around and bitch about UK.

So please just stop it!

I dont like how you act about UK, IU ....doesn't mean I dont like you as a person.

You post somethig I dont like, I am not gonna coddle you---Im gonna tell ya how I feel. I mean if ya like, I could do that???

You live on a one way street, bert. You don't think UK can do no wrong---that all UK fans are innocent, give the opposing team cookies and lemonade. And if someone says otherwise, well you get bent out of shape. Difference between you and me----I can accept IU has some shithole fans. You cannot do that with UK---Or for that matter, anything UK related.

To say UK has nothing to gain by playing Indiana is dumb as ****. You're very intelligent Bert---you know this is a dumb take. But your hate for IU, and your love for UK, and the game in 2011, will not let you see this.

I like you, bert. I think you are a genuine person. Love listening to your stories, talking with you. But at the same time, I don't like how you act when it come to Kentucky. You get offended way, way to easy.

Just the simple truth my friend. Take it as you will.

 

[IUfanBorden]

I remember UK fans taking Higgins to the woodshed in the EE 8 game in 2017 blaming him for the lost and yes I read comments where some UK fans threaten him and threatened his business.

Every fanbase has their share of idiots but to threaten a man and his livelihood over a game is way to much.

Roasted his ass in the Wisconsin game as well....And the UConn game. If not him, its somneone else. Who else has a category for their records for each official who's ever called a UK game?

Insane.

I have worked some very high level, high intensity, big rivalry games....College and HS. JUCO, NAIA, D3-D1...And trust me here in Indiana, HS is a fukin religion. I've had some games here where man, I mean wow. Never had my life threatened.

 

[kyjeff1]

It’s kind of weird to justify death threats, especially in regard to a game between college students, but do you have any clips of how they were “jobbed?”

No, not justifying death threats at all, but if dude thinks IU fans act like angels, he’s out of his mind.

 

[kyjeff1]

Did you just justify death threats because you think you got jobbed? Take it out on your sister next time.

No. Who are you?
My sister? What exactly are you proposing I do to her?

 

[kyjeff1]

You mean like 1992, vs Duke----in a game where the stakes were higher---The Final Four. Probably one of the worst officiated games I;ve ever seen. And for many it seemed obvious Ted Valentine certainly had it out for Bob Knight. MOF, it was an absolute known fact Valentine did not like Knight. The result?

Many of many wtf fouls called by Valentine....Duke shot 42 FT's---IU 16. Indiana had Cheaney, Bailey, Nover, Graham and Henderson all foul out. Duke shot a FT or FT's on 53% of their FGA---IU on 20%. Indiana ended up with 33 fouls----Duke 18. In a game were both teams styles werre absolutely identical.

Can you imagine THIS^^^^, if it was a UK vs Duke, box score?

Or what 2012? UK shot 37 FT's to IU's 17....---Imagine if that had been reversed?

Even then, threatening an officials LIFE over a basketball game is ridiculous---but hey, it was a high stakes game. And you call out Indiana's fan base about being classless.

****ing pure gold the hypocirsy here.

I called put Indiana's fanbase? Basically what I said was, IU fans are just as passionate as UK fans when it comes to this stuff, do you really believe, in the social media era, that IU fans would just sit on their hands? Come on Borden, you know better.

Death threats are never acceptable, but do we know that actually happened?

 

[kyjeff1]

Seriously…I realize that Kentucky fans blame the refs for every loss, but what are some examples of getting blatantly screwed in that game?

Here you go, watch it for yourself. The entire UK starting 5 was on the bench in foul trouble well before halftime, but uNC's guys didn't have to worry about that. Even the media was calling it out.

 

[kyjeff1]

Same referee in a 2011 FF game where UK lost by a point. If this is a foul (it isn't), than everything is a foul. That was a very poor acting job.
There were several other calls just like this one.
He also called the 2014 title game against UConn. More calls like this were made.
Higgins has made it very obvious he is no Calipari fan (I'm not either), but he took it way too far.

 

[ExitFlagger]

Here you go, watch it for yourself. The entire UK starting 5 was on the bench in foul trouble well before halftime, but uNC's guys didn't have to worry about that. Even the media was calling it out.

View embedded media

So they were threatening to murder officials because they called more fouls on the opponent? Looks like they called exactly ONE more foul on Kentucky. 😆

 

[kyjeff1]

So they were threatening to murder officials because they called more fouls on the opponent? Looks like they called exactly ONE more foul on Kentucky. 😆

Do you have proof that UK fans threatened to murder him, or are you just going off heresay?

I never said anything about murder threats being acceptable. But you're going to do what you do in every thread that involves UK. Spin, spin, spin.

And no, I'm not going to do this shit where you talk about the same things for 4 pages and I have to keep re-explaining myself.

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

I let her think she's the brains, that’s the best way.

What do you think about that motorhome? Looks like it's our turn to keep up with the Jones's. 😂

Tell the lovely wife I said hi. Hope we can get together again soon.

The motorhome is nice and big and is the only way that I can travel anymore. It has two bathrooms useable on the go!

 

[AWilli6995]

Here you go, watch it for yourself. The entire UK starting 5 was on the bench in foul trouble well before halftime, but uNC's guys didn't have to worry about that. Even the media was calling it out.

View embedded media

UK lost that game and you mention the foul trouble, maybe it was because you fouled to much and refs did their jobs?

 

[ExitFlagger]

Do you have proof that UK fans threatened to murder him, or are you just going off heresay?

I never said anything about murder threats being acceptable. But you're going to do what you do in every thread that involves UK. Spin, spin, spin.

And no, I'm not going to do this shit where you talk about the same things for 4 pages and I have to keep re-explaining myself.

Asking valid questions = spinning? And I suppose twisting a ONE foul disparity into a blatant agenda isn't spin? 😂

If it were so egregious, you'd think you'd have a bunch of examples of egregiously bad calls. Or at least one?

Btw, when have you ever needed proof before passing judgment?

 

[cdbearde]