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[dragonhawk1855]

I think what others are saying is that if you have 4 top 150 players your goal should be higher than that.

maybe if they were a year more experienced, plus if they had Jordan playing this year, so they only have 2 top 100 players with a FR in Patrick a fringe top 150. UNTIL PROVEN different.

Jordan will/may not play this year. Jordan did end up a 3rd Team All BT player.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

RollLaugh

as I said these lists are based on opinion only with ABSOLUTELY NO RESEARCH.

 

[ExitFlagger]

as I said these lists are based on opinion only with ABSOLUTELY NO RESEARCH.

You're probably right. Iowa is top 5 nationally in talent.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

You're probably right. Iowa is top 5 nationally in talent.

more like top 20, this years team is very young and will be W/O their top player in Jordan, his replacement is a True FR.

 

[Villian07]

So you think Iowas have more Top 150 Players than any other team in the conference besides MSU but you would be satisfied with a top 6 finish in the conference?

 

[MGC_07]

So you think Iowas have more Top 150 Players than any other team in the conference besides MSU but you would be satisfied with a top 6 finish in the conference?

Gil can be paradoxical. When asked about team expectations, they are fairly tempered, but when talking about specific players, he makes it seem like Iowa has these absolute studs, and usually has terrible takes. Like Jordan Bohannon> Cassius Winston

 

[dragonhawk1855]

So you think Iowas have more Top 150 Players than any other team in the conference besides MSU but you would be satisfied with a top 6 finish in the conference?

its better than that 10th place finish that some are predicting for Iowa. hmmm sound like last year rinse and repeat, 10th or worse by most, no matter how much the talent has improved. it is always 10th or worse. this is no longer the SA/Lick years,

the Talent level is getting back to the Davis years when they had a Elite 8, 2 Sweet 16 and a 9-0 in NCAST 1st round games plus they are approaching the Lute years when they won the BT Championship and made the FF.

the thought of that happening must rip the guts right out of some of you.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

Gil can be paradoxical. When asked about team expectations, they are fairly tempered, but when talking about specific players, he makes it seem like Iowa has these absolute studs, and usually has terrible takes. Like Jordan Bohannon> Cassius Winston

Jordan as a FR had 175 assists and 85 made 3's making him just 1 of 2 players in the previous 25 year to do that
then as a SO he has 175+ assists and 85+ made 3's the ONLY PLAYER requardles of position to do that in the previous 25 years.

don't recall Cassius doing that, now if he did please show me when he did that.

what he accomplished showed his talent level, not to mention what he meant to Iowa, not to bad for a 2* by 247, unranked 3* by Rivals and a 4* by ESPN.
Looks like ESPN was 10X more accurate than Rivals and 100X more accurate than 247.

 

[MGC_07]

Jordan as a FR had 175 assists and 85 made 3's making him just 1 of 2 players in the previous 25 year to do that
then as a SO he has 175+ assists and 85+ made 3's the ONLY PLAYER requardles of position to do that in the previous 25 years.

don't recall Cassius doing that, now if he did please show me when he did that.

what he accomplished showed his talent level, not to mention what he meant to Iowa, not to bad for a 2* by 247, unranked 3* by Rivals and a 4* by ESPN.
Looks like ESPN was 10X more accurate than Rivals and 100X more accurate than 247.

You said this as a sophomore, when Cassius averaged more points assists and had a higher FG and 3 Point % while playing on a better team. There was literally no argument yet somehow you made one.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

that was just one season and Cassious only made 75 3's on 151 attempt vs Jordan who made 96 on 223 attempts for 43%,

I am talking about having back to back seasons also Cassious had 87 TO's vs Jordan 67 TO's as SO's.

 

[jwardelt]

that was just one season and Cassious only made 75 3's on 151 attempt vs Jordan who made 96 on 223 attempts for 43%,

I am talking about having back to back seasons also Cassious had 87 TO's vs Jordan 67 TO's as SO's.

I know math isn't your strong suit. But why didn't you include the % for Winston. Is it because 50% is greater than 43% or do you have some other reason for it? Asking for a friend.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

here is a side note on how good Connor was as a RSFR
18.8 MPG
4.4 PPG
102 assists good for 2nd on the team
43 TO's
23 steals
3 blocks
the potential is there and he played part of the season after being taken off the concussion protocal

 

[dukedevilz]

I know math isn't your strong suit. But why didn't you include the % for Winston. Is it because 50% is greater than 43% or do you have some other reason for it? Asking for a friend.

Or the fact that Winston had a higher assist to turnover rate. I'd prefer to have a point guard with 2.8 Ast/To rate compared to just 2.0. Gilligan, I'm willing to get an early Christmas gift for you.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

I know math isn't your strong suit. But why didn't you include the % for Winston. Is it because 50% is greater than 43% or do you have some other reason for it? Asking for a friend.

actually it was 49.1% not 50 % also his attempts were about 70 less than Jordan's. less attempts ussually and does make the %'s higher.

 

[jwardelt]

actually it was 49.1% not 50 % also his attempts were about 70 less than Jordan's. less attempts ussually and does make the %'s higher.

No it doesn't. Only if you're a bad shooter. Based on these numbers, I'd call one a chucker and one not a chucker.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

Or the fact that Winston had a higher assist to turnover rate. I'd prefer to have a point guard with 2.8 Ast/To rate compared to just 2.0. Gilligan, I'm willing to get an early Christmas gift for you.

that's strange as Jordan avg 5.4 assists to 2.1 TO's per game. I don't have a clue where you came up with this 2.1 to to 1 TO.

please show me this new math that shows how you came up with your figures. mine shows a 2.56 to 1 assits to 1 TO.,

ALSO has was stated Cassious had better talent that he played with,

 

[dukedevilz]

that's strange as Jordan avg 5.4 assists to 2.1 TO's per game. I don't have a clue where you came up with this 2.1 to to 1 TO.

please show me this new math that shows how you came up with your figures. mine shows a 2.56 to 1 assits to 1 TO.,

ALSO has was stated Cassious had better talent that he played with,

So is Bohannon in the same discussion as Winston? I mean, are they about equal in terms of impact?

The 2.0 Ast/TO Rate was from 2019. Sorry for the grave error. Evidently 2018 is more relevant.

 

[VulvHa]

that's strange as Jordan avg 5.4 assists to 2.1 TO's per game. I don't have a clue where you came up with this 2.1 to to 1 TO.

please show me this new math that shows how you came up with your figures. mine shows a 2.56 to 1 assits to 1 TO.,

ALSO has was stated Cassious had better talent that he played with,

Better talent? Come on.

This season, Iowa’s starting lineup could be made up of 4 4* Top 100 players and a grade 80 4* by ESPN.
4* PG 6'0 Toussaint FR grade 80
4* SG 6'5 Connor RSSO top 100
4* SF 6'6 Wieskamp SO top 100 #42 by Rivals
4 F 6'9 Patrick FR top 100
4* C 6'11 Garza JR top 100
off the bench
7'0 4/5 Nunge RSSO
6'9 4/5 Kriener
6'8 4 Pemsl RSJR
6'7 3 Till JR
6'4 CG Fredrick RSFR
6'2 CG GT Evelyn RSSR
Questionable
4* PG Jordan SR may end up RS'ing, bubble team get real, how many team have that kind of lineup? yet still be called a bubble team. this will be the 1st season in 10 years where Fran can go 2 deep at each position without giving up the height at each position, not to mention the ability to go with a small lineup or a tall lineup.

everybody can shoot the 3, imagine a team that has a 7' and 6'11 players shooting 3's on the same team at the same time playing together @ the 4 and 5,

 

[schoonerwest]

Better talent? Come on.

This season, Iowa’s starting lineup could be made up of 4 4* Top 100 players and a grade 80 4* by ESPN.
4* PG 6'0 Toussaint FR grade 80
4* SG 6'5 Connor RSSO top 100
4* SF 6'6 Wieskamp SO top 100 #42 by Rivals
4 F 6'9 Patrick FR top 100
4* C 6'11 Garza JR top 100
off the bench
7'0 4/5 Nunge RSSO
6'9 4/5 Kriener
6'8 4 Pemsl RSJR
6'7 3 Till JR
6'4 CG Fredrick RSFR
6'2 CG GT Evelyn RSSR
Questionable
4* PG Jordan SR may end up RS'ing, bubble team get real, how many team have that kind of lineup? yet still be called a bubble team. this will be the 1st season in 10 years where Fran can go 2 deep at each position without giving up the height at each position, not to mention the ability to go with a small lineup or a tall lineup.

everybody can shoot the 3, imagine a team that has a 7' and 6'11 players shooting 3's on the same team at the same time playing together @ the 4 and 5,

Also Iowa has 4 of the top 150 players in the country with 3 more in the top 250.

 

[Jesus Bohannon]

Fran McCaffery, how many top 150 players do you have?

 

[dragonhawk1855]

No it doesn't. Only if you're a bad shooter. Based on these numbers, I'd call one a chucker and one not a chucker.

43% is not a chucker, 35% is a chucker, give me a 43+ % shooter every day.

Carson Edwards fits the Chucker to a T as he shot 380 3's making 135 for 35.5 %. now that's a chucker.

Jordan while playing with a hip that needed surgery he shot 38.3 from 3.

another thing about Jordan was his FT Shooting
FR 85.5%
SO 90.4%
JR 87.2%

Cass
FR 65.4%
SO 90%
JR 84%

now which one do you want shooting the FT's at the end of the game?

 

[schoonerwest]

43% is not a chucker, 35% is a chucker, give me a 43+ % shooter every day.

Carson Edwards fits the Chucker to a T as he shot 380 3's making 135 for 35.5 %. now that's a chucker.

Jordan while playing with a hip that needed surgery he shot 38.3 from 3.

another thing about Jordan was his FT Shooting
FR 85.5%
SO 90.4%
JR 87.2%

Cass
FR 65.4%
SO 90%
JR 84%

now which one do you want shooting the FT's at the end of the game?

I'd use Winston for 38-39 minutes to get my team a healthy 15 point lead then put Jordan in to hit those FT's in the last minute when the other team has to foul.

 

[jwardelt]

Better talent? Come on.

This season, Iowa’s starting lineup could be made up of 4 4* Top 100 players and a grade 80 4* by ESPN.
4* PG 6'0 Toussaint FR grade 80
4* SG 6'5 Connor RSSO top 100
4* SF 6'6 Wieskamp SO top 100 #42 by Rivals
4 F 6'9 Patrick FR top 100
4* C 6'11 Garza JR top 100
off the bench
7'0 4/5 Nunge RSSO
6'9 4/5 Kriener
6'8 4 Pemsl RSJR
6'7 3 Till JR
6'4 CG Fredrick RSFR
6'2 CG GT Evelyn RSSR
Questionable
4* PG Jordan SR may end up RS'ing, bubble team get real, how many team have that kind of lineup? yet still be called a bubble team. this will be the 1st season in 10 years where Fran can go 2 deep at each position without giving up the height at each position, not to mention the ability to go with a small lineup or a tall lineup.

everybody can shoot the 3, imagine a team that has a 7' and 6'11 players shooting 3's on the same team at the same time playing together @ the 4 and 5,

 

[dragonhawk1855]

So is Bohannon in the same discussion as Winston? I mean, are they about equal in terms of impact?

The 2.0 Ast/TO Rate was from 2019. Sorry for the grave error. Evidently 2018 is more relevant.

in last season Jordan was playing with a hip injury that required surgery to repair WHICH the primary reason why Jordan has to miss the 19-20 season.

how important is Jordan to Iowa before it was known that he was not going to play and after Moss and Cook were leaving Iowa was rated has high as a #3 seed to now as high as a #10 seed and the 2nd to last 4 out. you tell me if Jordan isn't important to Iowa success.

 

[klize17]

Fran McCaffery, how many top 150 players do you have?

LaughingLaughingLaughing

That guys is such a clown shoe.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

I'd use Winston for 38-39 minutes to get my team a healthy 15 point lead then put Jordan in to hit those FT's in the last minute when the other team has to foul.

the differense is that Cass has the better talent from top to bottom than did to play with.

even Cook had 92 TO's and shot 0% from 3 and mid 60's from the FTL while leading the team in FTA, Patrick has not played
Connor and Wieskamp are just SO's this season
Toussaint and Fredrick will be just starting

the better talent really has not started playing yet and Wieskamp as a SO is on the preseason All BT team,

Garza is fully healthy this year, so he will be in a position to show just how good he is/will/can be.

kinda a shame that some are already throwing these players under the bus.

W/0 Jordan they don't win 23 games last season period..

 

[jwardelt]

LaughingLaughingLaughing

That guys is such a clown shoe.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

LaughingLaughingLaughing

That guys is such a clown shoe.

he's 10X the coach than Lick was has the best he ever did was sit on the bench acting like he was eating popcorn and at his worst sitting there with his head in his hands, give me a firery coach every time.

I'd even take Knight with his chair 3/4 court throwing, or Keady with his coat and tie tearing off and slamming them to the floor any day.

 

[Jesus Bohannon]

Has he been thrown out of every B1G arena?

 

[dragonhawk1855]

if Icould post these type of vid's I can shot a bunch of the other coaches doing the same or worse,

but hey keep trying.

he has won over 400 games as a coach in his carreer. plus he has taken 4 losing teams and turned them into NCAAT teams, only 4 other coaches can claim that feat in the history of College BB.

not bad that you make fun of.

 

[klize17]

he's 10X the coach than Lick was has the best he ever did was sit on the bench acting like he was eating popcorn and at his worst sitting there with his head in his hands, give me a firery coach every time.

I'd even take Knight with his chair 3/4 court throwing, or Keady with his coat and tie tearing off and slamming them to the floor any day.

Knight and Kea...well Knight actually won on a big stage. Keady was a good coach who never got over the hump, but is 10x the coach Fran was.

 

[klize17]

if Icould post these type of vid's I can shot a bunch of the other coaches doing the same or worse,

but hey keep trying.

he has won over 400 games as a coach in his carreer. plus he has taken 4 losing teams and turned them into NCAAT teams, only 4 other coaches can claim that feat in the history of College BB.

not bad that you make fun of.

He has a 49% winning percentage in the B1G over 9 years congrats I guess.

 

[jwardelt]

He has a 49% winning percentage in the B1G over 9 years congrats I guess.

that's almost not a loser!

 

[dragonhawk1855]

He has a 49% winning percentage in the B1G over 9 years congrats I guess.

2 4-14 seasons in 9 years can skew the overall standings, the 2 12 win season ALMOST balances things out
4-14 10th
8-10 7th
9-9 6th
9-9 6th
12-6 3rd
12-6 3rd
10-8 5th
4-14 11th
10-10 6th

at least Fran has NEVER finished dead last. all that before the improved recruiting.

 

[jwardelt]

He's never been first loser though.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

CBS just posted their top 10 BT players that could be drafted in the 2020 NBA Draft low and behold Wieskamp is on that list, still claiming he isn't one of the top 50 players?

 

[Jesus Bohannon]

CBS just posted their top 10 BT players that could be drafted in the 2020 NBA Draft low and behold Wieskamp is on that list, still claiming he isn't one of the top 50 players?

RollLaugh

 

[dukedevilz]

CBS just posted their top 10 BT players that could be drafted in the 2020 NBA Draft low and behold Wieskamp is on that list, still claiming he isn't one of the top 50 players?

I still think you're an idiot, if that's what you're asking.

 

[dragonhawk1855]

I still think you're an idiot, if that's what you're asking.

you are the idiot, prove your top 50 by giving stats,

fact Wieskamp if he comes out after his SO season is a projected NBA pick
fact Wieskamp was just named to the PRESEASON all BT team. your stupidity grows with each post.

 

[RR30]

Fantastic title edit