I like how you have to include ESPN to pump up your rankings. Toussaint isn't ranked by Rivals - he's ranked 293rd by 247. And even by ESPN, he's only the 40th ranked pg - which means he's roughly the 200th best player. Having 40 point guards that are 4* or greater waters-down the meaning of a 4-star recruit. Toussaint is a 3-star recruit.
And you sound like a broken record. Iowa has six 4-star recruits? 1 who won't be play this season. 1 who isn't a top 150 player. And two guys weren't in the top 100 by multiple services (C.McCaffrey and Garza). So yeah, not all that impressive. 70% of P6 schools have multiple 4-star recruits. Unless you're able to pull in multiple guys like Wieskamp, it's going to be the same old results. 2nd round will remain your ceiling. And a 2nd round team (if you make it that far), DOES NOT deserve two players in the top 50.
Let's get back to the top 150 players. This is not an Iowa thread. You are monopolizing the discussion. Should we talk about Colorado for two whole pages? How about Mississippi State? How about Creighton? Those are all good programs. And so is Iowa. But none of those programs merit multiple pages in a thread that is supposed to be much, much broader. Can you talk about anyone besides Iowa?
to show how foolish you look Witchita State just made the FF a number years ago and that team had very few 4* players on it, another MVC team reached the FF AND they did not kave multiple 4* players, Creighton, Xavier, Cinncinnati are just of the many teams that are regulars in the NCAAT that aren't loaded with 4* players, also Toussaint is listed as the 6th best player in NY by 247,
last years Iowa's team played without these
7'0 Nunge who RS'd
6'8 Pemsl who had surgery and RS'd
6'4 Fredrick who RS'd
and used a Walk on that was given a scholarship. that gave Fran 10 scholarship players to play AND yet that team won 23 games with 1 in the BTT and the NCAAT.
this season Nunge, Pemsl AND Fredrick will join the returning players and will add in Patrick, GT Evelyn and Toussaint. giving Fran 11 healthy players to use this season.
with 2 at each position being able to play multiple positions in any kind of lineup, a short lineup or a tall lineup, this is not a bubble team. that is the whole point of my objection.
Cook had 92 TO's that will not be missed nor will his lack of aggression on defense or in rebounding
Moss played when he wanted to and disappeared way to often that won't be missed.
6'7 Baer was a Former walk on he is being replaced by 6'8 Patrick top 100 4* to me that is a major upgrade.
Garza is fully healthy at 6'11 262 lbs. he will not get pushed around.
Nunge after the RS is 7'0 246 lbs up from 6'11 225 lbs at the end of his FR season and up from 6'8 185 lb as a incoming FR out of HS,
as for his HS Credentials he was a 2 time All State 1st Teamer and was the runnerup in the voting for Indiana's Mr. BB. give me a 2 time 1st Teamer out of Indiana and runner up to the Mr.BB in every class and I would not even blink.
Toussaint was the finalist for NY Mr. BB. AVG'ing 22.5 ppg, 5.3 apg, 4.7 rpg and 1.7 spg
his main strength his his defense. this is what has hurt Iowa the most the last few years.
Fredrick was named the Gatorade POY after leading his team to the single class state Championship, scoring 900 points in his SR season shooting 48.4 % from 3 making 103 3's in his SR season. he played PG for his team. and is projected to be the starting SG for Iowa.
this team is actually in a better position that they have been the last 4 seasons and far better than they were from the 12-13 season thru the 15-16 seasons when the made the NCAAT 3 times and winning 2 1st rnd games then losing to the #2 seed Gonzaga then to #2 seed Villinova who went on to win the NCAAT Championship.
so its not like Iowa has lost to 9 seeds or lower in the 2nd rnd, even last year Iowa a 10 seed and beat the 7 seed in the 1st rnd then lost to #2 seed Tennessee in OT in the 2nd rnd.
