If Anyone but Trump Were Elected POTUS

[toonces11]

Not sure, but ya gotta love the hard stance by Jerry Jones on this issue, huh?

It's OK to beat and mistreat women, among other felonies, but don't you dare take a knee during a song.

Im not sure these things are comparable on any plane. I'd imagine owners base most of their public opinions on the ability to make money. They bend their views based on whats good for the bottom line and I'm not sure they should be a measuring stick for what is right/wrong. Kinda like LeBron James shouldn't be making fun of people for being uneducated.

 

[dtgold88]

Valid point. I don't think anyone who beats women should have a job making millions of dollars. Especially a job that is more of a privilege.

How do you feel about Dak Prescott being called an uncle tom for saying he doesn't believe that the protests are in the right time or place?

Can't say I like anyone being called an Uncle Tom, but nothing I'd get worked up over.

 

[cosmickid]

Dattier is trying to divide this board even further with identity politics, which has a pretty significant racial angle, if you ask me.

So it's the "left" that advocates identity politics? And I guess people only disliked Obama over his policies? No racist element at all- that's how you remember History?

Man he must have instituted a huge amount of "policies" in his first month. In fact some of them just days before and after the 2008 election...From Feb 2009...

"Even as many celebrated, the election of America's first black president provoked a furious backlash from some angry whites

Barack Obama campaign volunteer Kaylon Johnson was one of the millions of people around the world who celebrated the historic election of the nation's first African-American president. He even opened a shop to sell Obama memorabilia in Shreveport, La., where he lives. But then Johnson learned better than most that racists were anything but euphoric over the president-elect.

Nearly a month after the election, on the night of Dec. 6, Johnson, 33, pulled into a Shreveport gas station behind the wheel of his GMC Yukon adorned with Obama bumper stickers. Wearing an Obama T-shirt, Johnson purchased a soft drink and was returning to his vehicle when he was jumped by three white men shouting "**** Obama!" and "****** president!" The pummeling left Johnson with a broken nose and a fractured eye socket that required surgery.

The attack on Johnson was just one of what likely was hundreds of racially charged incidents around the United States related to Obama's campaign and ultimate victory. Some may qualify as hate crimes, others as offensive pranks and protests. Many involved students — from grade school through college. The incidents began in the days leading up to the Nov. 4 election. A sampling:

A life-sized likeness of Obama was found hanging from a noose in a tree at the University of Kentucky.

The co-owner of a Palm Beach, Fla., restaurant wrote "White Power" on staff memos taped to the eatery's kitchen walls. She told her black employees they would be fired if they voted for Obama.

Even as Barack Obama spoke of the need for the country to pull together, some Americans were doing their best to tear it apart.
The incidents continued on the night of the election. A black Muslim teenager in Staten Island, N.Y., said he was assaulted by four white men who yelled "Obama." That same restaurant owner in Palm Beach wrote "KKK" on employee timecards. After newspaper reports of her behavior, she blamed her actions on "watching too much Fox News" and "my hot Italian blood."

The day after Obama's victory, rhetoric about history, healing and hope soared. But so did racial rancor.

In Snellville, Ga., a boy on a school bus told a 9-year-old girl that he hoped Obama would be assassinated. That night, also in Snellville, a vandalized Obama sign and two pizza boxes filled with human feces were left on a black family's lawn. Small black effigies were found hanging from nooses in trees in two Maine towns. In Midland, Mich., a pistol-packing member of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan wore his Klan uniform and carried an American flag on a city sidewalk.

"Obama" was spray-painted on a black man's car, which was then torched, in Otter Creek Pa. Racist graffiti and an apparent reference to Obama's win were spray-painted on a high school gym and at a local skate park in Kilgore, Texas. At North Carolina State University, four students spray-painted racist and threatening graffiti aimed at Obama, sparking an anti-racist rally attended by 500 people.Township,

In the following days and weeks, reports of incidents continued to pour in. Among them:

Only hours after Obama's election, a predominantly black church in Springfield, Mass., was torched. Three white men were arrested just days before Obama's Jan. 20 inauguration and charged with conspiring to deprive church congregants of their civil rights.

Obama enthusiast Kaylon Johnson was beaten by men screaming "****** president!"
A sign was placed inside a general store in Standish, Maine, that read, "Osama Obama Shotgun Pool." Customers could sign up to bet $1 on a date when the new president would be assassinated. "Stabbing, shooting, roadside bombs, they all count," the sign said. At the bottom of the sign somebody had written, "Let's hope someone wins."

An employee of a gun-and-lock shop in Traverse City, Mich., flew the American flag upside down because, he said, it symbolized "an international signal for distress and we feel our country is in distress because the ****** got it."

The husband-and-wife owners of a motel in Huntsville, Ark., replaced the American flag flying outside their inn with a Confederate battle flag, saying they did so not because of Obama's race, but rather to protest voters' decision to put a "Marxist in the White House."

A dark-skinned doll labeled "Obama" was hung in a high-school stairwell east of Tacoma, Wash. Five students were expelled.

A biracial student at a high school north of Pittsburgh complained that a teacher's aide said to a student sitting near her that Obama would be killed, that the American flag would be changed to the KFC chicken chain's emblem, and the national anthem would become "Movin' on Up" — the theme song of "The Jeffersons," a sitcom about a black family. The aide also berated her for supporting Obama, the student said. The aide was suspended.

Second-and-third-grade students on a school bus in Rexburg, Idaho, chanted, "Assassinate Obama."

A University of Alabama professor reported that an Obama poster was ripped off her office door. When she put up another one, somebody wrote a death threat against Obama and a racial slur on it.

Federal authorities arrested a Wisconsin man in Brookhaven, Miss., four days before Obama's inauguration for threatening to assassinate Obama in a posting to an Internet site about UFOs and extraterrestrial aliens. Steven Joseph Christopher, 42, allegedly wrote that he "can no longer allow the Jewish parasites to bully their way into making the American people submit to their evil ways."

Neo-Nazi radio show host Hal Turner wrote on his blog that his "inauguration dream" was for somebody to send an explosives-laden aerial unmanned drone or chemical-filled balloons into inaugural crowds. In a follow-up posting, Turner maintained that Obama and congressmen and senators attending the inauguration deserved to die, as did African Americans ("sub-human simians") and liberals ("mentally-ill Whites") in the crowd.

Incidents like these and his own beating go to show "we have a lot of work to do still," said Kaylon Johnson, the Louisiana entrepreneur. Even so, he's not discouraged. He remained elated about the election outcome and the fact that Obama carried his home parish of Shreveport in a state won by John McCain. "We're still on the same high, the same energy level as during the campaign," Johnson said.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-...racist-backlash-greets-president-barack-obama

 

[toonces11]

So it's the "left" that advocates identity politics? And I guess people only disliked Obama over his policies? No racist element at all- that's how you remember History?

Man he must have instituted a huge amount of "policies" in his first month. In fact some of them just days before and after the 2008 election...From Feb 2009...

"Even as many celebrated, the election of America's first black president provoked a furious backlash from some angry whites

Barack Obama campaign volunteer Kaylon Johnson was one of the millions of people around the world who celebrated the historic election of the nation's first African-American president. He even opened a shop to sell Obama memorabilia in Shreveport, La., where he lives. But then Johnson learned better than most that racists were anything but euphoric over the president-elect.

Nearly a month after the election, on the night of Dec. 6, Johnson, 33, pulled into a Shreveport gas station behind the wheel of his GMC Yukon adorned with Obama bumper stickers. Wearing an Obama T-shirt, Johnson purchased a soft drink and was returning to his vehicle when he was jumped by three white men shouting "**** Obama!" and "****** president!" The pummeling left Johnson with a broken nose and a fractured eye socket that required surgery.

The attack on Johnson was just one of what likely was hundreds of racially charged incidents around the United States related to Obama's campaign and ultimate victory. Some may qualify as hate crimes, others as offensive pranks and protests. Many involved students — from grade school through college. The incidents began in the days leading up to the Nov. 4 election. A sampling:

A life-sized likeness of Obama was found hanging from a noose in a tree at the University of Kentucky.

The co-owner of a Palm Beach, Fla., restaurant wrote "White Power" on staff memos taped to the eatery's kitchen walls. She told her black employees they would be fired if they voted for Obama.

Even as Barack Obama spoke of the need for the country to pull together, some Americans were doing their best to tear it apart.
The incidents continued on the night of the election. A black Muslim teenager in Staten Island, N.Y., said he was assaulted by four white men who yelled "Obama." That same restaurant owner in Palm Beach wrote "KKK" on employee timecards. After newspaper reports of her behavior, she blamed her actions on "watching too much Fox News" and "my hot Italian blood."

The day after Obama's victory, rhetoric about history, healing and hope soared. But so did racial rancor.

In Snellville, Ga., a boy on a school bus told a 9-year-old girl that he hoped Obama would be assassinated. That night, also in Snellville, a vandalized Obama sign and two pizza boxes filled with human feces were left on a black family's lawn. Small black effigies were found hanging from nooses in trees in two Maine towns. In Midland, Mich., a pistol-packing member of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan wore his Klan uniform and carried an American flag on a city sidewalk.

"Obama" was spray-painted on a black man's car, which was then torched, in Otter Creek Pa. Racist graffiti and an apparent reference to Obama's win were spray-painted on a high school gym and at a local skate park in Kilgore, Texas. At North Carolina State University, four students spray-painted racist and threatening graffiti aimed at Obama, sparking an anti-racist rally attended by 500 people.Township,

In the following days and weeks, reports of incidents continued to pour in. Among them:

Only hours after Obama's election, a predominantly black church in Springfield, Mass., was torched. Three white men were arrested just days before Obama's Jan. 20 inauguration and charged with conspiring to deprive church congregants of their civil rights.

Obama enthusiast Kaylon Johnson was beaten by men screaming "****** president!"
A sign was placed inside a general store in Standish, Maine, that read, "Osama Obama Shotgun Pool." Customers could sign up to bet $1 on a date when the new president would be assassinated. "Stabbing, shooting, roadside bombs, they all count," the sign said. At the bottom of the sign somebody had written, "Let's hope someone wins."

An employee of a gun-and-lock shop in Traverse City, Mich., flew the American flag upside down because, he said, it symbolized "an international signal for distress and we feel our country is in distress because the ****** got it."

The husband-and-wife owners of a motel in Huntsville, Ark., replaced the American flag flying outside their inn with a Confederate battle flag, saying they did so not because of Obama's race, but rather to protest voters' decision to put a "Marxist in the White House."

A dark-skinned doll labeled "Obama" was hung in a high-school stairwell east of Tacoma, Wash. Five students were expelled.

A biracial student at a high school north of Pittsburgh complained that a teacher's aide said to a student sitting near her that Obama would be killed, that the American flag would be changed to the KFC chicken chain's emblem, and the national anthem would become "Movin' on Up" — the theme song of "The Jeffersons," a sitcom about a black family. The aide also berated her for supporting Obama, the student said. The aide was suspended.

Second-and-third-grade students on a school bus in Rexburg, Idaho, chanted, "Assassinate Obama."

A University of Alabama professor reported that an Obama poster was ripped off her office door. When she put up another one, somebody wrote a death threat against Obama and a racial slur on it.

Federal authorities arrested a Wisconsin man in Brookhaven, Miss., four days before Obama's inauguration for threatening to assassinate Obama in a posting to an Internet site about UFOs and extraterrestrial aliens. Steven Joseph Christopher, 42, allegedly wrote that he "can no longer allow the Jewish parasites to bully their way into making the American people submit to their evil ways."

Neo-Nazi radio show host Hal Turner wrote on his blog that his "inauguration dream" was for somebody to send an explosives-laden aerial unmanned drone or chemical-filled balloons into inaugural crowds. In a follow-up posting, Turner maintained that Obama and congressmen and senators attending the inauguration deserved to die, as did African Americans ("sub-human simians") and liberals ("mentally-ill Whites") in the crowd.

Incidents like these and his own beating go to show "we have a lot of work to do still," said Kaylon Johnson, the Louisiana entrepreneur. Even so, he's not discouraged. He remained elated about the election outcome and the fact that Obama carried his home parish of Shreveport in a state won by John McCain. "We're still on the same high, the same energy level as during the campaign," Johnson said.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-...racist-backlash-greets-president-barack-obama

Those sound like some examples of some terrible people doing terrible things and are condemnable by all rational americans. I don't think any celebration or reprehensible action should be b/c of someones skin color.

 

[LetsGoDuke301]

So it's the "left" that advocates identity politics? And I guess people only disliked Obama over his policies? No racist element at all- that's how you remember History?

Man he must have instituted a huge amount of "policies" in his first month. In fact some of them just days before and after the 2008 election...From Feb 2009...

"Even as many celebrated, the election of America's first black president provoked a furious backlash from some angry whites

Barack Obama campaign volunteer Kaylon Johnson was one of the millions of people around the world who celebrated the historic election of the nation's first African-American president. He even opened a shop to sell Obama memorabilia in Shreveport, La., where he lives. But then Johnson learned better than most that racists were anything but euphoric over the president-elect.

Nearly a month after the election, on the night of Dec. 6, Johnson, 33, pulled into a Shreveport gas station behind the wheel of his GMC Yukon adorned with Obama bumper stickers. Wearing an Obama T-shirt, Johnson purchased a soft drink and was returning to his vehicle when he was jumped by three white men shouting "**** Obama!" and "****** president!" The pummeling left Johnson with a broken nose and a fractured eye socket that required surgery.

The attack on Johnson was just one of what likely was hundreds of racially charged incidents around the United States related to Obama's campaign and ultimate victory. Some may qualify as hate crimes, others as offensive pranks and protests. Many involved students — from grade school through college. The incidents began in the days leading up to the Nov. 4 election. A sampling:

A life-sized likeness of Obama was found hanging from a noose in a tree at the University of Kentucky.

The co-owner of a Palm Beach, Fla., restaurant wrote "White Power" on staff memos taped to the eatery's kitchen walls. She told her black employees they would be fired if they voted for Obama.

Even as Barack Obama spoke of the need for the country to pull together, some Americans were doing their best to tear it apart.
The incidents continued on the night of the election. A black Muslim teenager in Staten Island, N.Y., said he was assaulted by four white men who yelled "Obama." That same restaurant owner in Palm Beach wrote "KKK" on employee timecards. After newspaper reports of her behavior, she blamed her actions on "watching too much Fox News" and "my hot Italian blood."

The day after Obama's victory, rhetoric about history, healing and hope soared. But so did racial rancor.

In Snellville, Ga., a boy on a school bus told a 9-year-old girl that he hoped Obama would be assassinated. That night, also in Snellville, a vandalized Obama sign and two pizza boxes filled with human feces were left on a black family's lawn. Small black effigies were found hanging from nooses in trees in two Maine towns. In Midland, Mich., a pistol-packing member of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan wore his Klan uniform and carried an American flag on a city sidewalk.

"Obama" was spray-painted on a black man's car, which was then torched, in Otter Creek Pa. Racist graffiti and an apparent reference to Obama's win were spray-painted on a high school gym and at a local skate park in Kilgore, Texas. At North Carolina State University, four students spray-painted racist and threatening graffiti aimed at Obama, sparking an anti-racist rally attended by 500 people.Township,

In the following days and weeks, reports of incidents continued to pour in. Among them:

Only hours after Obama's election, a predominantly black church in Springfield, Mass., was torched. Three white men were arrested just days before Obama's Jan. 20 inauguration and charged with conspiring to deprive church congregants of their civil rights.

Obama enthusiast Kaylon Johnson was beaten by men screaming "****** president!"
A sign was placed inside a general store in Standish, Maine, that read, "Osama Obama Shotgun Pool." Customers could sign up to bet $1 on a date when the new president would be assassinated. "Stabbing, shooting, roadside bombs, they all count," the sign said. At the bottom of the sign somebody had written, "Let's hope someone wins."

An employee of a gun-and-lock shop in Traverse City, Mich., flew the American flag upside down because, he said, it symbolized "an international signal for distress and we feel our country is in distress because the ****** got it."

The husband-and-wife owners of a motel in Huntsville, Ark., replaced the American flag flying outside their inn with a Confederate battle flag, saying they did so not because of Obama's race, but rather to protest voters' decision to put a "Marxist in the White House."

A dark-skinned doll labeled "Obama" was hung in a high-school stairwell east of Tacoma, Wash. Five students were expelled.

A biracial student at a high school north of Pittsburgh complained that a teacher's aide said to a student sitting near her that Obama would be killed, that the American flag would be changed to the KFC chicken chain's emblem, and the national anthem would become "Movin' on Up" — the theme song of "The Jeffersons," a sitcom about a black family. The aide also berated her for supporting Obama, the student said. The aide was suspended.

Second-and-third-grade students on a school bus in Rexburg, Idaho, chanted, "Assassinate Obama."

A University of Alabama professor reported that an Obama poster was ripped off her office door. When she put up another one, somebody wrote a death threat against Obama and a racial slur on it.

Federal authorities arrested a Wisconsin man in Brookhaven, Miss., four days before Obama's inauguration for threatening to assassinate Obama in a posting to an Internet site about UFOs and extraterrestrial aliens. Steven Joseph Christopher, 42, allegedly wrote that he "can no longer allow the Jewish parasites to bully their way into making the American people submit to their evil ways."

Neo-Nazi radio show host Hal Turner wrote on his blog that his "inauguration dream" was for somebody to send an explosives-laden aerial unmanned drone or chemical-filled balloons into inaugural crowds. In a follow-up posting, Turner maintained that Obama and congressmen and senators attending the inauguration deserved to die, as did African Americans ("sub-human simians") and liberals ("mentally-ill Whites") in the crowd.

Incidents like these and his own beating go to show "we have a lot of work to do still," said Kaylon Johnson, the Louisiana entrepreneur. Even so, he's not discouraged. He remained elated about the election outcome and the fact that Obama carried his home parish of Shreveport in a state won by John McCain. "We're still on the same high, the same energy level as during the campaign," Johnson said.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-...racist-backlash-greets-president-barack-obama

Yikes

 

[ThroughBlue]

Does dattier have a post on this board that does not involve race?

It’s sickening to be told you are a racist for no reason. Are there still racist white people? Yes. Are there racist black people? Yes.

Goodness gracious how am i paying for racism that i didn’t commit?

Race isn’t the divide in this country is. Money is. Where I live in south central Kentucky Mexicans whites and blacks all get along. You know why? Because we are all poor as ****. The only people who look down on people here are the old money people. White trash stinks just as bad a black trash.

 

[toonces11]

Does dattier have a post on this board that does not involve race?

It’s sickening to be told you are a racist for no reason. Are there still racist white people? Yes. Are there racist black people? Yes.

Goodness gracious how am i paying for racism that i didn’t commit?

Race isn’t the divide in this country is. Money is. Where I live in south central Kentucky Mexicans whites and blacks all get along. You know why? Because we are all poor as ****. The only people who look down on people here are the old money people. White trash stinks just as bad a black trash.

He has a lot of rational posts....then he gets wrapped up in being right all the time, so he takes positions i don't think he actually would in a general sense. He feels like if he gives an inch it will invalidate all his views---when in fact, by not just conceding the rational points of others makes him seem extreme. I could be wrong, bc he comes off as a zealot on racial issues---like to an extent that it almost makes it looks like he has an agenda against people of....no color???? I think most people are biased against shitheads---all races. Its b/c they are in general POS. Some see that as a color issue----i don't. F them all

 

[Ameoba Offense]

I think it would be baffling if the president of our country didn't stand up for the flag and national anthem. The media sources made sure they talked about it each and every minute they could...why wouldn't the president of our country weigh in on our national anthem and respecting the flag---both time honored things that a handful of people decided to try and make into something they aren't. You forgot to answer who brought race into the national anthem?

Baffling?

The president had a chance on foreign soil in front of a world audience to "stand up" to an enemy on behalf of real American patriots and he pissed down his leg.

 

[toonces11]

Baffling?

The president had a chance on foreign soil in front of a world audience to "stand up" to an enemy on behalf of real American patriots and he pissed down his leg.

Did you alter your meme on Obama’s Iran deal. Pretty soon you’re gonna feel like you’re on repeat.

 

[Ameoba Offense]

Did you alter your meme on Obama’s Iran deal. Pretty soon you’re gonna feel like you’re on repeat.

But, but, but...Obama.

Favoring an enemy dictator over Dan Coats (and our entire IC) in Helsinki was THE most unpatriotic thing I've ever seen in my life. Yet football players kneeling during a song remains your benchmark for judging patriotism.

I can see why you deflect - you sure AF don't have an argument.

 

[LetsGoDuke301]

Lol

 

[toonces11]

But, but, but...Obama.

Favoring an enemy dictator over Dan Coats (and our entire IC) in Helsinki was THE most unpatriotic thing I've ever seen in my life. Yet football players kneeling during a song remains your benchmark for criticizing patriotism.

I can see why you deflect - you sure AF don't have an argument.

Your blind as a bat my man. There were things I sure didn’t like about trumps meeting but you’re too agenda driven to see both sides. I’ve been vocal about trumps many deficiencies, yet you come on full half inch boner. Gotta step up your big boi game if you want to be taken seriously.

 

[Kevin Bryan]

Well, we'd have to look at Hillary instead of Melania, which would likely lead to a collective state of depression.

But not having to endure the likes of De Niro and Madonna opening their mouths might correct the imbalance. We'll never know.

Bill would be the first lady.

 

[Big_Blue79]

Lol

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Is that the crazy Blacks for Trump guy that advertises his website where he claims that the Cherokee are the real Isrealites or demons or something? Sure seems to be. Dude is whack as all get out. Seriously, check out his website. It's a sleek combination of late 1990s web design and full on crazy ideas. But, hey, at least the crazy man is attacking CNN!

 

[Ameoba Offense]

Your blind as a bat my man. There were things I sure didn’t like about trumps meeting but you’re too agenda driven to see both sides. I’ve been vocal about trumps many deficiencies, yet you come on full half inch boner. Gotta step up your big boi game if you want to be taken seriously.

I see just fine. Crystal clear, actually. You constantly beat the fake patriotism drum that Fox spoon feeds you and then try to play the "moderate" card by saying "I've been vocal about trumps many deficiencies"....

Wasn't talking about Trump's "many deficiencies". Wasn't talking about Obama, either (whom I've criticized many times).

Was just referring to patriotism here. And your definition of it seems pathetically submissive to what state media wants to make it.

 

[bkingUK]

Ask in a week when Trump ****s up again.

 

[toonces11]

I see just fine. Crystal clear, actually. You constantly beat the fake patriotism drum that Fox spoon feeds you and then try to play the "moderate" card by saying "I've been vocal about trumps many deficiencies"....

Wasn't talking about Trump's "many deficiencies". Wasn't talking about Obama, either (whom I've criticized many times).

Was just referring to patriotism here. And your definition of it seems pathetically submissive to what state media wants to make it.

Oh if you mean General respect that every generation of my family was taught to uphold ...yes. Straighten the **** up and show some respect. Every guy that paved the way thought differently than I did....but I still understand the concept. You mention the term submissive. My stance does nothing but honor our country and those that sacrificed before me....it’s called humility and recognizing my problems aren’t greater than the whole. You’ve jumped on the progressive bandwagon my man. And you’ve got no real teeth behind your stance.

 

[brooky03]

What's the difference between this thread and monkeys throwing their shit at each other?

 

[toonces11]

What's the difference between this thread and monkeys throwing their shit at each other?

Mainly monkeys.

 

[Dattier]

Out of hand? It has been 6 years. I assumed it was about race when it was a new story. I am a little rusty on the facts, but I remember the racial allegations being driven by the 911 call that was edited to make it appear Zimmerman was volunteering the fact that Martin was black. But ABC admitted that they "accidentally" edited out the part where the dispatcher asked him what the suspect's race was. Once it was assumed that race played a role, there was no turning back. Maybe there are facts that I am not aware of that prove it was motivated by race. But I know there were never any formal charges related to it being race related.

I think Zimmerman should have been convicted of manslaughter for the simple fact that he ignored requests to stay in his vehicle and chose to confront Martin instead. But there is nothing to suggest that race was the motivation other than the fact that it was two people of different ethnicities.

Maybe Martin attacked Zimmerman because he was Hispanic? Perhaps he was a victim of racism. We weren't there, we can only assume.

Oh, we're talking specifically and only about Trayvon Martin's death?

 

[Dattier]

You can spin it any which way you want....what it means to you, what these things stand for, if its a military thing, or a political thing, or just basic respect and observance for our rights and those that helped provide them. The ONE constant is this time is spoken for.

Its the same reason people send off nasty stares when idiots are acting a fool while its playing, its why your dad or grandpa reminds you to take your cap off, its why its played after winning an olympic medal, its why its played at military funerals, its why you learn in grade school how important it is to take care of the flag pole......the list is never ending.

I'm not spinning a thing. Now you're defending the time it takes for the anthem b/c it's "spoken for." Nobody owns time. You don't get to reserve that time for evermore.

There is no comparison between some idiot who is too selfish to be respectful and someone who violates your sacred ideas as an act of conscience to draw attention to something you'd rather ignore and deny.

And you continue to show absolute ignorance about what a protest even is. You don't do it quietly on an out of the way island where no one will be inconvenienced. We've been over this.

 

[LetsGoDuke301]

Is that the crazy Blacks for Trump guy that advertises his website where he claims that the Cherokee are the real Isrealites or demons or something? Sure seems to be. Dude is whack as all get out. Seriously, check out his website. It's a sleek combination of late 1990s web design and full on crazy ideas. But, hey, at least the crazy man is attacking CNN!

When I snagged that video, I didn't read the tweet. Kind of just thought it was a video. I didn't notice it mentioned black Trump supporters. That's not necessary. I just got a kick out of the cnn sucks chant.

But, yeah. That dude is out there. Haha

 

[LetsGoDuke301]

Oh, we're talking specifically and only about Trayvon Martin's death?

Yes. He was Obama's hypothetical son, right? The ONE example we were talking about?????? The reason for this conversation?

 

[LetsGoDuke301]

What's the difference between this thread and monkeys throwing their shit at each other?

Tread lightly

 

[ThroughBlue]

Great to live in a country where all this is possible. In many countries some of you would be hunted down and beheaded. Coincidentally a lot of those countries also hate America. Sadly we send millions in aid to those countries

 

[Ameoba Offense]

Oh if you mean General respect that every generation of my family was taught to uphold ...yes. Straighten the **** up and show some respect. Every guy that paved the way thought differently than I did....but I still understand the concept. You mention the term submissive. My stance does nothing but honor our country and those that sacrificed before me....it’s called humility and recognizing my problems aren’t greater than the whole. You’ve jumped on the progressive bandwagon my man. And you’ve got no real teeth behind your stance.

I believe in our right to peaceful protest, in whatever form that takes. Equal rights and social causes always outlive the views of the people who oppose them. My "stance" is on the side that history tends to favor.

I also understand that remembrance during the anthem is something that most everyone is passionate about at some point. But it shouldn't be difficult for a person of average emotional intelligence to compartmentalize their emotions from common sense. I can remember my Uncle Garner while also understanding that Colin Kaepernick is not trying to disrespect him or me with his silent protest. It's asinine to get offended by that.

And my use of the word submissive refers to buying in to the political weaponization that's been propagandized by Trump and Fox. Do you honestly believe that Comrade Bone Spurs gives a single solitary f**k about patriotism or honoring our veterans? Trump gives you the answer to this question every single day with his words, actions and tweets. His only intent is to divide people. I'm literally embarrassed for people who can't see that he's manipulating them for political leverage.

 

[Dattier]

Yes. He was Obama's hypothetical son, right? The ONE example we were talking about?????? The reason for this conversation?

And it's about the intricate details of that case, too, huh? Write 3 more paragraphs.

 

[LetsGoDuke301]

I believe in our right to peaceful protest, in whatever form that takes. Equal rights causes always outlive the views of the people who oppose them. My "stance" is on the side that history tends to favor.

I also understand that remembrance during the anthem is something that most everyone is passionate about at some point. But it shouldn't be difficult for a person of average emotional intelligence to compartmentalize their emotions from common sense. I can remember my Uncle Garner while also understanding that Colin Kaepernick is not trying to disrespect him or me with his silent protest. It's asinine to get offended by that.

And my use of the word submissive refers to buying in to the political weaponization that's been propagandized by Trump and Fox. Do you honestly believe that Comrade Bone Spurs gives a single solitary f**k about patriotism or honoring our veterans? Trump gives you the answer to this question every single day with his words, actions and tweets. His only intent is to divide people. I'm literally embarrassed for people who can't see that he's manipulating them for political leverage.

Manipulation is not exclusive to one party or person. Look how hard the left manipulates people into believing that everything revolves around race.

 

[LetsGoDuke301]

And it's about the intricate details of that case, too, huh? Write 3 more paragraphs.

Good night datt.

 

[Ameoba Offense]

Manipulation is not exclusive to one party or person. Look how hard the left manipulates people into believing that everything revolves around race.

Need to be more specific on that. "Race" and "the left" are both pretty broad terms. I'd agree that both sides are guilty of some of the same things, though.

 

[hailtoyourvictor]

Need to be more specific on that. "Race" and "the left" are both pretty broad terms. I'd agree that both sides are guilty of some of the same things, though.

The left more, though.

 

[toonces11]

I'm not spinning a thing. Now you're defending the time it takes for the anthem b/c it's "spoken for." Nobody owns time. You don't get to reserve that time for evermore.

There is no comparison between some idiot who is too selfish to be respectful and someone who violates your sacred ideas as an act of conscience to draw attention to something you'd rather ignore and deny.

And you continue to show absolute ignorance about what a protest even is. You don't do it quietly on an out of the way island where no one will be inconvenienced. We've been over this.

You are incorrect. It is 100% about old fashioned respect. It’s like observing a moment of silence for somebody you didn’t really know. It’s bowing your head during a prayer of your denomination or someone else’s.
If you really want change you’d think one would have the good sense to not use a form of protest that will upset people to a point your cause gets dwarfed by your mode of protest. Also.....maybe don’t do your protesting on the job. What I say makes sense bc it’s rational. It’s always your right to protest, but as we have seen....actions have consequences and it would serve people well if they took a few seconds to think about the best way to get their message across....also, use common sense if it’s not working and use a different ave.

 

[ThroughBlue]

You are incorrect. It is 100% about old fashioned respect. It’s like observing a moment of silence for somebody you didn’t really know. It’s bowing your head during a prayer of your denomination or someone else’s.
If you really want change you’d think one would have the good sense to not use a form of protest that will upset people to a point your cause gets dwarfed by your mode of protest. Also.....maybe don’t do your protesting on the job. What I say makes sense bc it’s rational. It’s always your right to protest, but as we have seen....actions have consequences and it would serve people well if they took a few seconds to think about the best way to get their message across....also, use common sense if it’s not working and use a different ave.

The left doesn’t worry about stuff like moments of silence and bowing your head in prayer. I’m not one bit religious but if anyone is praying I respect that and bow my head and give them their time

 

[toonces11]

The left doesn’t worry about stuff like moments of silence and bowing your head in prayer. I’m not one bit religious but if anyone is praying I respect that and bow my head and give them their time

Its an example of common courtesy and having manners.

 

[ThroughBlue]

Its an example of common courtesy and having manners.

I credit all the ass whippings I had as a child. Something that is being sorely missed in this time.

 

[Jaycg15]

I credit all the ass whippings I had as a child. Something that is being sorely missed in this time.

You sorely miss being whipped?

 

[toonces11]

I credit all the ass whippings I had as a child. Something that is being sorely missed in this time.

If you haven't had your "protest" ended by your dad grabbing your arm so hard his fingers touched the bone---you weren't raised right lol. He could do it so incognito that you couldn't tell he was putting any effort into it at all. The pain was so paralyzing you couldn't even scream in pain.

 

[dukedevilz]

So it's the "left" that advocates identity politics? And I guess people only disliked Obama over his policies? No racist element at all- that's how you remember History?

Man he must have instituted a huge amount of "policies" in his first month. In fact some of them just days before and after the 2008 election...From Feb 2009...

"Even as many celebrated, the election of America's first black president provoked a furious backlash from some angry whites

Barack Obama campaign volunteer Kaylon Johnson was one of the millions of people around the world who celebrated the historic election of the nation's first African-American president. He even opened a shop to sell Obama memorabilia in Shreveport, La., where he lives. But then Johnson learned better than most that racists were anything but euphoric over the president-elect.

Nearly a month after the election, on the night of Dec. 6, Johnson, 33, pulled into a Shreveport gas station behind the wheel of his GMC Yukon adorned with Obama bumper stickers. Wearing an Obama T-shirt, Johnson purchased a soft drink and was returning to his vehicle when he was jumped by three white men shouting "**** Obama!" and "****** president!" The pummeling left Johnson with a broken nose and a fractured eye socket that required surgery.

The attack on Johnson was just one of what likely was hundreds of racially charged incidents around the United States related to Obama's campaign and ultimate victory. Some may qualify as hate crimes, others as offensive pranks and protests. Many involved students — from grade school through college. The incidents began in the days leading up to the Nov. 4 election. A sampling:

A life-sized likeness of Obama was found hanging from a noose in a tree at the University of Kentucky.

The co-owner of a Palm Beach, Fla., restaurant wrote "White Power" on staff memos taped to the eatery's kitchen walls. She told her black employees they would be fired if they voted for Obama.

Even as Barack Obama spoke of the need for the country to pull together, some Americans were doing their best to tear it apart.
The incidents continued on the night of the election. A black Muslim teenager in Staten Island, N.Y., said he was assaulted by four white men who yelled "Obama." That same restaurant owner in Palm Beach wrote "KKK" on employee timecards. After newspaper reports of her behavior, she blamed her actions on "watching too much Fox News" and "my hot Italian blood."

The day after Obama's victory, rhetoric about history, healing and hope soared. But so did racial rancor.

In Snellville, Ga., a boy on a school bus told a 9-year-old girl that he hoped Obama would be assassinated. That night, also in Snellville, a vandalized Obama sign and two pizza boxes filled with human feces were left on a black family's lawn. Small black effigies were found hanging from nooses in trees in two Maine towns. In Midland, Mich., a pistol-packing member of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan wore his Klan uniform and carried an American flag on a city sidewalk.

"Obama" was spray-painted on a black man's car, which was then torched, in Otter Creek Pa. Racist graffiti and an apparent reference to Obama's win were spray-painted on a high school gym and at a local skate park in Kilgore, Texas. At North Carolina State University, four students spray-painted racist and threatening graffiti aimed at Obama, sparking an anti-racist rally attended by 500 people.Township,

In the following days and weeks, reports of incidents continued to pour in. Among them:

Only hours after Obama's election, a predominantly black church in Springfield, Mass., was torched. Three white men were arrested just days before Obama's Jan. 20 inauguration and charged with conspiring to deprive church congregants of their civil rights.

Obama enthusiast Kaylon Johnson was beaten by men screaming "****** president!"
A sign was placed inside a general store in Standish, Maine, that read, "Osama Obama Shotgun Pool." Customers could sign up to bet $1 on a date when the new president would be assassinated. "Stabbing, shooting, roadside bombs, they all count," the sign said. At the bottom of the sign somebody had written, "Let's hope someone wins."

An employee of a gun-and-lock shop in Traverse City, Mich., flew the American flag upside down because, he said, it symbolized "an international signal for distress and we feel our country is in distress because the ****** got it."

The husband-and-wife owners of a motel in Huntsville, Ark., replaced the American flag flying outside their inn with a Confederate battle flag, saying they did so not because of Obama's race, but rather to protest voters' decision to put a "Marxist in the White House."

A dark-skinned doll labeled "Obama" was hung in a high-school stairwell east of Tacoma, Wash. Five students were expelled.

A biracial student at a high school north of Pittsburgh complained that a teacher's aide said to a student sitting near her that Obama would be killed, that the American flag would be changed to the KFC chicken chain's emblem, and the national anthem would become "Movin' on Up" — the theme song of "The Jeffersons," a sitcom about a black family. The aide also berated her for supporting Obama, the student said. The aide was suspended.

Second-and-third-grade students on a school bus in Rexburg, Idaho, chanted, "Assassinate Obama."

A University of Alabama professor reported that an Obama poster was ripped off her office door. When she put up another one, somebody wrote a death threat against Obama and a racial slur on it.

Federal authorities arrested a Wisconsin man in Brookhaven, Miss., four days before Obama's inauguration for threatening to assassinate Obama in a posting to an Internet site about UFOs and extraterrestrial aliens. Steven Joseph Christopher, 42, allegedly wrote that he "can no longer allow the Jewish parasites to bully their way into making the American people submit to their evil ways."

Neo-Nazi radio show host Hal Turner wrote on his blog that his "inauguration dream" was for somebody to send an explosives-laden aerial unmanned drone or chemical-filled balloons into inaugural crowds. In a follow-up posting, Turner maintained that Obama and congressmen and senators attending the inauguration deserved to die, as did African Americans ("sub-human simians") and liberals ("mentally-ill Whites") in the crowd.

Incidents like these and his own beating go to show "we have a lot of work to do still," said Kaylon Johnson, the Louisiana entrepreneur. Even so, he's not discouraged. He remained elated about the election outcome and the fact that Obama carried his home parish of Shreveport in a state won by John McCain. "We're still on the same high, the same energy level as during the campaign," Johnson said.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-...racist-backlash-greets-president-barack-obama

Yes, the left is driven by identity politics. That is nothing new.... As far as the murders, each one is a tragedy. Nobody is celebrating anyone's death. Conservatives get annoyed, however, when liberals are insistent that every crime is racially driven, that every misfortune stems from racism. Sometimes there are just plain, bad people out there. Certainly with 326 million people you're bound to have a few bad apples.

And yes, sometimes white people target African-Americans or other minorities. But did you know that 15.8% of white victims are killed by African-Americans, whereas only 8.6% of African-Americans are killed by whites? Are you aware that African-Americans, who represent 13% of the population, are responsible for more than 52% of the homicides? That is an alarming percentage from a minority group. Here's the data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics.

 

[Big_Blue79]

You sorely miss being whipped?

Craigslist started cracking down on the backpages a few years ago, so I could see how someone wou... oh, not those types of whippings.

 

[Dattier]

You are incorrect. It is 100% about old fashioned respect. It’s like observing a moment of silence for somebody you didn’t really know. It’s bowing your head during a prayer of your denomination or someone else’s.
If you really want change you’d think one would have the good sense to not use a form of protest that will upset people to a point your cause gets dwarfed by your mode of protest. Also.....maybe don’t do your protesting on the job. What I say makes sense bc it’s rational. It’s always your right to protest, but as we have seen....actions have consequences and it would serve people well if they took a few seconds to think about the best way to get their message across....also, use common sense if it’s not working and use a different ave.

You don't get to define what it means for everyone else, and for the umpteenth time, PROTEST IS INHERENTLY ABRASIVE.

Kaepernick has raised millions of dollars for charities through his principled actions.