Hurt To Duke
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Michigan State is a notch above everyone else at this point. I think Kentucky could be a solid #2 team, possibly a challenger at #1 if they bring in Blackshear. Still ridiculously early to accurately project the 2020 season, though.
I want to say this Duke team should be better balanced, with better shooters, and a better bench. But no Zion, and defense might not be as good. With potentially 5 freshmen taking up the top 6-7 spots in the rotation, this team could also be over its head, and a step or two behind from being a serious title threat. Too early to tell, but given that we have Jones back, several upperclassmen on the bench, and a few incoming 5-star recruits, I suspect we'll be somewhere in the preseason top 5, maybe 3 or 4.
You watched that Duke team and can say that they had plenty of horses? Over 50% of their scoring came from two guys. That is a two horse show.
Cash K. The best team money can buy. Perhaps they used Zion's mom to consult on roster makeup.
This kl guy is an absolute moron.
Yeah, looking at that lineup for Duke, I’m not thrilled. There’s not Zion or RJ in there, although I suspect Carey will be a beast. Our bench better step the hell up... otherwise a team of four or five freshmen, Tre Jones, and the bench that didn’t come through last year will be lucky to get to the Elite 8.
Are you just figuring this out about kl? Dude has been just like Afam guy since he has been here.
Kansas fans throwing shade about paying players? Yikes.
That’s a stupid comeback. Like... what is it supposed to mean? “I THINK YOU SUCK SO YOU SAYING I SUCK IS LIKE RUBBER AND GLUE BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY MEANS I AM AWESOME!”
K took the redshirt off Baker so he could play 2 minutes in one game. That was a horse he misused and wasted a year. He also had a 5 star Bolden coming off the bench and Jack White and two guards including Goldwire, etc. I could go on but you get the jist.
Yeah. You're just showing your ignorance. I clearly do not mean bodies to put on the floor. I mean players that could contribute and be a consistent threat on offense. Cool that you can list a few players on the roster, but it is a simple fact that Duke only had two guys that they could rely on for points.
Still hung up on recruiting rankings and not actual in court playing huh.
You do know only 5 can play at a time huh?
Can you tell us how you would have changed what K did.
So you would have preferred Baker not play. Understood. So how is that misuse.
So you think you know Dukes personnel better than the coaching staff huh? Priceless.
You friend said K didn't have the horses and then wanted me to name them. He had the horses it was up to K to decide how to play them.
He had two horses and the rest ponies.
But keep on going by preseason rankings and recruiting rankings to make you feel better.
I'm pretty sure Duke and UK fans are never going to tout recruiting classes again.
Everything is shifting to hindsight, and just we'll wait until March.
Everything is shifting to hindsight, and just we'll wait until March.
You just aren’t smart.
Look at what he did on the court while at Duke.
Very little. He was a disappointment.
Regardless he only played like a "horse" a handful of times his freshman year. What he does in the NBA is irrelevant.
Having a recruiting season like this one where you really can’t cheat to keep up is showing how detrimental that can be to a top program. I have little confidence in Ku’s immediate future. I’m just ready for it all to be over.
I don't disagree K may not have had the horses in terms of depth. Some of that may be due to the transfers he losses because he doesn't develop that depth though. I'm not sure. I can't keep up with which guys they lose would still be there. Regardless, if that is the case then that may still be the case next year. I believe their bench is about the same next year as this year. Depth is definitely important. That has been part of the issue for UNC the last couple of years.
I'll admit I was very bullish on their team when healthy. I thought they were clearly the best team in the country. I still believe that. They just lost. They also weren't really playing their best basketball in the tourney. That happens in the dance. I'm glad it did. Like usual, both extremes are probably off here. I bet if we cared enough to look there were Duke fans here who implied pretty strongly they were the best team in the country. I bet there were others, I know there were, who tried to temper things a bit and were optimistic but realistic as well. They didn't meet expectations that remained pretty consistent all year. However, they weren't the only team.
I'll admit I was very bullish on their team when healthy. I thought they were clearly the best team in the country. I still believe that. They just lost. They also weren't really playing their best basketball in the tourney. That happens in the dance. I'm glad it did. Like usual, both extremes are probably off here. I bet if we cared enough to look there were Duke fans here who implied pretty strongly they were the best team in the country. I bet there were others, I know there were, who tried to temper things a bit and were optimistic but realistic as well. They didn't meet expectations that remained pretty consistent all year. However, they weren't the only team.
You are correct. If Duke would have won it all, it would have been greatest class ever but since they didn't, you hear they were overblown or rankings are useless. UK and Cal has been blasted for these highly ranked classes underachieving, and now, many national sports writers are adding Duke in that conversation.I'm pretty sure Duke and UK fans are never going to tout recruiting classes again.
Everything is shifting to hindsight, and just we'll wait until March.
Fact is, lower rated 5*s today were really good 3*s 15 years ago.. Once K or Cal starts watching a kid, his ranking soars. Who are the guys hanging stars on these kids? Who really thought Bolden or Richards were 5*s?
I was of the opinion that Duke's A game was the best A game in the country. But I was also very honest about not having seen their A game for a long time. I think at one time, Duke was clearly the best team in the country. But other teams improved during the year and Duke kind of stayed on the same level they had regressed to in mid/late January. I was hopeful that they would return to form, they just never really did. Some of that can be blamed on injuries disrupting their chemistry or whatever, but I think the overall problem was beyond that. At the end of the day, they were a good team and fun to watch, they just didn't live up to unrealistic expectations, which is not their fault.
I don’t know. I don’t really follow it all that much. I just know that everybody that KU was supposed to be going after this year are all going to other schools.
UK sucking really hurt your teams perception. You blew us out of the water and everyone thought this is '15 UK team over again. It wasn't fair to you guys to have that weight on your shoulders
Ha. In hindsight, that game probably did more damage than good for a young team. Though I do think for a couple of young players with enormous talent, they remained humble overall.
Duke did have the highest ceiling but people on this board have unrealistic expectations of what they consider a good year. Some say that anything other than a title or Final Four is a bad season. They’re basically saying that the best programs have been unsuccessful 75% of their history. That’s just dumb. An Elite Eight is a really good year no matter who you are. We all know it hurts when you’re one of the favorites and you lose in the Elite Eight but it doesn’t change the fact that just getting there is a pretty big accomplishment.
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