…will Kansas be able to compete now that other programs can also buy players legally?
How many MWC championships in a row will Kansas win?
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No. SEC is all about football. KU’s best chances are B1G (football may make this impossible), ACC (add to the power basketball conference but this seems unlikely just based on geography), and worst case is AAC or Big East.
Of course not. Everyone knows that they wouldn’t have won a game without Billy Preston and Silvio De Sousa.
Neither does rutgers, maryland, or Us(louisville) either quite frankly. We are all better than Kansas but still not exactly juggernauts.
im still hoping for a acc basketball superleague with ku and uk annd then a sec football superleague with them adding clemson/fsu/ohio st etc.
dont think it makes sense money wise though unless they dont let the ncaa get a dime of march madness $$.
You clearly don't understand how this works. RU and Maryland are way more valuable to a conference than Kansas.
You don't understand the money aspect of this while thing.
10 years ago that was true. I don't believe that is true anymore.
I think if the climate today was the same 10 years ago, the Big Ten would have gone a different direction. Maybe not Maryland, but for sure Rutgers.
We have a contract coming up in 2023 and the Big 10 has a bunch of viewers no matter what platform people use.
I don’t know how likely it is, but I’m hoping for it.
We’d develop a rivalry due to the Bill Self connection and both being basketball schools.
Dude came out right after that on Twitter and said that was taken out of context. He said there has been some smoke that things could be imminent with KU to B1G but nothing concrete just smoke from sources he considers reliable.
Basically this could be the case or not. One thing that showed up 10 years ago with realignment and recently again with OU/Texas moving that conference realignment moves very quickly.
I will say also that if KU does in fact announce for the B1G sometime before September or October then I will lead to the belief that ESPN and to a certain extent CBS truly are pulling the strings here in pushing these schools to certain conferences.
The guy admitted the rumor started on a message board. The B10 has always made the most money off of TV rights deals and they’re facing the possibility that the SEC could make more money now. Kansas would actually decrease the value of the B10 and I doubt any school would willingly agree to lose money in order to do Kansas a solid.
It seems like wishful thinking from Kansas people. There's not really a good reason for the Big Ten to add Kansas
Automatic win in football?
Obviously it's not guaranteed, but it's come from at least two sources now who are well-connected at KU. Much more connected than any of us, I'd guess.
Frankly, I don't care either way.
To be fair the rumor began on a Texas message board where the poster apparently is a very reliable insider on that board. That’s where it all began. Not on a KU board. Now the smoke Mike Vernon was hearing may have been from wishful thinking KU guys who heard the rumor as well.
They guy who said the move was "imminent" immediately walked it back on twitter. 99% of these realignment rumors on twitter are just people making shit up.
From a basketball perspective, it really doesn't impact Kansas much. The need to be in a "power" conference is really only a football thing. Conference affiliation really doesn't mean much in college basketball. On top of that, the remaining Big 12 teams wouldn't be a terrible league for basketball.
Interesting. But it's also important to remember that Oklahoma and Texas benefit from the Big 12 falling apart. It might have been some wishful thinking on their part.
I have no idea if Kansas would want to join the B10 but I’m pretty confident the Big Ten will have no interest in any school that wouldn’t add value to their TV negotiations and none of the remaining B12 schools
What if the networks are telling the big ten and the pac 12 to add a few certain schools in order to blow up the big 12 so they don’t have to pay the big 12 at all. Instead they pay the B1G a little more money to where the payout increases even though kansas doesn’t warrant an increase on paper in order to ultimately pay less by not paying for an entire conference.
Instead the networks are paying for 4 major conferences. They also have an eye on a blown up NCAA and can capitalize on the basketball tourney. Right now the NCAA makes so much money off the basketball tourney that it would be in everyone’s best interest financially to get rid of the NCAA and have a smaller and cheaper governing body.
Not a plausible scenario. The B10 contract ends in a few years and the B12 a few years after that. What you’re suggesting could possibly save a TV network some money for the next few years but what about when they have to renegotiate when they end?
We will take them, at a major pay cut. We will give KU 10 mil a year.
That's good money given the boat they are in
That's good money given the boat they are in
You didn’t understand my post, clearly. And I have it on good authority the networks are controlling this whole thing. Not saying KU to the big ten is a lock.
However I will say KU to either the big ten or ACC is absolute lock once they do expand and they will. The networks will pay them to.
It is a fact that by a wide margin Kansas and Kentucky have the most viewership on TV for basketball. It isn’t close. Not Duke. Not UNC.
The networks want people to watch their games during football season and especially in January, February or March. Adding Kansas to play Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Indiana and Illinois matters to them. Or Kansas vs Duke, UNC, Louisville, Virginia, Syracuse. That gives a lot of good slate games to choose from. Duke and UNC can’t play each other every week.
Again football matters most and KU brings nothing there except a top 28 athletic department despite the football failures. Imagine a 6-6 Ku football program. It’s a top 20 athletic department.
ESPN will pay for KU to be one of those leagues. I can guarantee you that.
From the referenced article:
Getting the conferences or even ESPN to try to share basketball viewership data is like asking for CIA secrets — for some reason, they’re not sharing — but as one industry source, who assumed I’d get these numbers, said: “You’re going to find that Kansas and (Kentucky) are off the charts in viewers, and then there is everyone else.”
He added that those are two programs whose numbers are actually competitive with college football. This is relevant because when placing value on the two main revenue sports when it comes to television negotiations, the industry belief is that football accounts for 80 percent and men’s basketball the other 20. Kansas could be an outlier, a program whose basketball ratings are significant enough to at least move the scales.
Getting the conferences or even ESPN to try to share basketball viewership data is like asking for CIA secrets — for some reason, they’re not sharing — but as one industry source, who assumed I’d get these numbers, said: “You’re going to find that Kansas and (Kentucky) are off the charts in viewers, and then there is everyone else.”
He added that those are two programs whose numbers are actually competitive with college football. This is relevant because when placing value on the two main revenue sports when it comes to television negotiations, the industry belief is that football accounts for 80 percent and men’s basketball the other 20. Kansas could be an outlier, a program whose basketball ratings are significant enough to at least move the scales.
The other thing people don’t understand is yes OU/UT is 50% of the big 12 TV deal. The remaining 8 schools are not equal. KU is without question worth more than the other 7. It isn’t equal. KU is valued 3rd in the big 12.
Iowa is an afterthought in the big ten. And you should be the last guy chirping.
Is Kentucky AAU? Because academics are what make the B1G the richest conference at the end of the day.
I have no idea. I do know Kentucky is top 15 in the country in revenue produced. Best basketball program in the country. Up and coming football program with top support. We might fit in better in the ACC, but I think the BIG would absolutely take a look at us.
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For the first time in 82 years, there will be no March Madness, a harsh blow to players and coaches, the NCAA, TV networks and, of course, fans. It won't be so painful for the sport's most valuable teams, though.
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