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I might take Boogie either way.Davis. Every day. All day. And agree with the above poster, I’d take Boogie over Injury Embiid as well.
What is Embiids ceiling? I was thinking was something like where Anthony Davis is right now.Also Davis now but to say his ceiling is higher that Embiid is nonsense. Embiid has the highest ceiling.
KAT? NahDefinitely Davis, without question.
I'm biased as a UK guy, but Embiid would be my 4th choice, behind Davis, Cousins, and KAT
KAT? Nah
Hakeem OlajuwonWhat is Embiids ceiling? I was thinking was something like where Anthony Davis is right now.
I am old enough to remember when his name was Akeem. As far as that being his ceiling, I don’t see it. He will have to become one of the greatest defensive players ever to get there and he is basically an average on defense at best right now.Hakeem Olajuwon
I am old enough to remember when his name was Akeem. As far as that being his ceiling, I don’t see it. He will have to become one of the greatest defensive players ever to get there and he is basically an average on defense at best right now.
Davis still has room for growth as well. Which is why I take Davis. He is already one of the best players in the league and he isn’t done developing as a player. He is still very young too.
I guess I’m watching the games where he isn’t. The games I’ve seen he has been very average.While I don't agree with the Hakeem ceiling for Embiid. Embiid is far better than average at best on defense. He's one of the best defensive Cs in the league and arguably the best 2-way center in the league.
Since KAT has entered the NBA, he leads the league in double-doubles.Some Wolves fans seem to do a fair bit of bashing of KAT, from what I've read... that he is a poor defender, doesn't hustle, doesn't box out... I was a bit shocked to see it, to be honest, as I always loved his game.
I guess I’m watching the games where he isn’t. The games I’ve seen he has been very average.
Again, only going by the games I have seen. I’m not really an advance stat guy. Stats can be misleading but I’ll look closer the next time I watch him.His advanced stats say he's a top 3-5 defensive C. Also when Embiid goes to the bench or one of the games he sits there's a massive drop in defense for 76ers.
Since KAT has entered the NBA, he leads the league in double-doubles.
I know you're not being personal and, meh, you know how home boards are.Having looked over at some Wolves forums (I try to keep up with Tyus Jones and his quest to become a starter), I'm just repeating what some of them are saying. Some are disappointed; they expected a better defender. A few people even say that if it doesn't show up in a stats sheet, KAT doesn't bother with it. Nothing personal; he is actually one of my favorite guys to ever come out of UK, not just because of his talent but also because he seems like a really fantastic young man.
Embiid is 6th in the league in Defensive RPM. Obviously Olajuwon is a best case scenario for him but its not out of the realm of possibility.Again, only going by the games I have seen. I’m not really an advance stat guy. Stats can be misleading but I’ll look closer the next time I watch him.
I looked the advanced stats and Jaylen Brown is ranked first, Tatum is third. (Embiid is ranked pretty high) Love both of those guys but they are not two of the best defenders in the league. Good defenders but that level? Eh. On the other hand Marcus Smart and Al Horford are not far behind and they are great defenders.
Embiid is 6th in the league in Defensive RPM. Obviously Olajuwon is a best case scenario for him but its not out of the realm of possibility.
I believe it is.Embiid is 6th in the league in Defensive RPM. Obviously Olajuwon is a best case scenario for him but its not out of the realm of possibility.