Do You Think the Big 10 Deserves All These Bids?
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They are behind you at 32 and KenPom doesn’t care about wins and losses. They don’t factor into your rankings at all.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Well seeing as how you made the Final Four last year and you aren't winning the national championship this year either, if this team is different then that probably can't be good for you...............I guess we'll see.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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your first sentence just described why his rankings are a joke. Thanks for confirming
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Per KenPom: I would describe the philosophy of the system as this: it looks at who a team has beaten and how they have beaten them. Same thing on the losses, also. Yes, it values a 20 point win more than a 5 point win. It likes a team that loses a lot of close games against strong opposition more than one that wins a lot of close games against weak opposition.
So @AuHoosier420 Purdue’s OT loss against Florida State looks better than Auburn’s OT win against Furman.
So @AuHoosier420 Purdue’s OT loss against Florida State looks better than Auburn’s OT win against Furman.
Auburn’s victory over Kentucky was worse less than Ohio st. Loss today. That is again why these rankings are a joke
The conference ranks are mostly locked in. But individual teams can still make large movements—at least in KenPom. Yes, if one conference team goes up another must go down. So you end up hurting your own win in terms of the quadrants. But single teams can still make huge moves.
The problem for Auburn is, y’all haven’t been blowing teams out. It hurts your efficiency margins. FSU is actually kind of similar, except we are just a slightly better version.
His rankings basically lock teams in a sector in November based on what the conference does and then they can’t be moved. Auburn could blow out the rest of its schedule now and still see very little improvement in ken’s rankings. Meanwhile MSU could lost another 5 straight and still be in the top 20. Yet you want to say these things are credible
we can’t move up regardless if we start blowing teams out since no one in the sec is even ranked in the top 30 on his rankings.
That’s hyperbole bullshit and you know it. WVU was in the 49s and 50s in November, in the 30s in December and they are now 7th.
yes it is. Losing really doesn’t matter to his rankings if your conference does well in November. How many more does Michigan st. Have to lose for you to stop denying this?
baylor and Kansas propping up that WVU ranking. The SEC is locked into around 25-35 no matter what we do
UF was 13th in November, 23rd in January, and 47th now.
Dayton was 60th in November, 23rd in December, 6th now.
BYU was 76 in November, 62 in December, 43 in January, and 16th now.
Dayton was 60th in November, 23rd in December, 6th now.
BYU was 76 in November, 62 in December, 43 in January, and 16th now.
You’re in more denial than Gil. Just because he doesn’t like the SEC right now doesn’t mean you’re locked in.
Again, that’s not accurate. If Auburn started blowing teams out, your rank would rise. You think the WCC performed that well OOC? Somehow BYU is managing to improve.
Auburn was ranked 11th like 3.5 weeks ago in KenPom. And then they had their doors blown off by two mediocre teams and it killed your efficiency metrics. Conversely, your recent wins have all been close.
Again explain why a big team essentially can’t be penalized now in his rankings? That’s my Biggest issue. Losing games doesn’t hurt you if your conference does well in November.
it’s really not. A bunch of average teams honestly. Wouldn’t shock me to see zero big 10 teams make the second weekend but with as many teams getting in from the big 10 a couple will probably have to play each other in round of 32.
Indiana was 20th in December, 35th in January, 45th now.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Auburn didn’t drop from 11 to the 30s because you lost. You dropped that far because you had your doors blown off, and your wins are all close.
Look at it this way:
Team A plays 3 games. They win 89-59, lose 69-68, and lose 70-65. They still have a +24 point differential despite going 1-2.
Team B also plays 3 games. They win 70-68, win 91-90, and they lose 80-60. They have a point differential of -17, despite going 2-1.
team b won more games. Wins are all that matters and it’s why his rankings are a joke.
Who is a great team in the big 10? Maryland? LOL? They won’t see the second weekend either
You’re conflating resume with predictions.
KenPom isn’t suggesting that Auburn has the 31st best resume. That’s not the objective of his metric. Auburn has a top 16 resume which is why they are a projected top 4 seed.
KenPom is about predicting future outcomes. It’s forward looking, not backward looking. It’s why the Vegas spreads are always so darn close to his predicted spreads.
he is projecting we are the 31st best team in the country. Meanwhile Minnesota and it’s 10 losses are ahead of us. The metrics are setting the big 10 up for a higher disaster
I mean yea Turge isn’t exactly Coach K. But I’m not scared of anybody in the SEC.
If you’re so good at predicting games, why don’t you join this board’s weekly pickem?
holy crap this auburn fan is showing he knows almost nothing about this sport.
This is crazy i dont think ive ever seen one person make so many terrible posts in one topic.
This is crazy i dont think ive ever seen one person make so many terrible posts in one topic.
Auburn
dude you are an Iowa fan. Auburn has done more things in football, baseball, and basketball in just the last 10 years than your joke of an athletic department has ever done
I have zero interest in trying to predict the big 10 and it’s conference circle jerk
