By show of hands, how many people's lives ITT have been negatively affected by an illegal immigrant?
Enforcing immigration on a certain group of people, and stereotyping is something that I consider un-presidential. Then again, he is very un-presidential, so it is what it tisI clearly missed your example. Because actually enforcing immigration laws is not an example him saying or insinuating that all Latinos are bad hombres or rapists.
We have Mexican gangs in our little south central town. And they aren't upstanding citizens of the community. This count?By show of hands, how many people's lives ITT have been negatively affected by an illegal immigrant?
I guess you forgot that he also hates muslims and people from shithole countries in Africa.Enforcing immigration on a certain group of people, and stereotyping is something that I consider un-presidential. Then again, he is very un-presidential, so it is what it tis
Ah yes, I had forgotten. Which still isn’t good. Though his travel ban was directed only to certain middle eastern countries. His remarks on certain African countries do showcase his disdain for third world life, though I don’t see him building a wall along the eastern seaboard.I guess you forgot that he also hates muslims and people from shithole countries in Africa.
Lol where are these said “Mexican gangs”?We have Mexican gangs in our little south central town. And they aren't upstanding citizens of the community. This count?
You sed my location. Figure it out. Guess you have Cali gang free. Congrats.Lol where are these said “Mexican gangs”?
I feel like your resentment comes from being close to people who are affected by tougher immigration policies. So I respect that you have a strong opinion on the matter. But I also suspect that it clouds your judgement.Ah yes, I had forgotten. Which still isn’t good. Though his travel ban was directed only to certain middle eastern countries. His remarks on certain African countries do showcase his disdain for third world life, though I don’t see him building a wall along the eastern seaboard.
I just don’t really believe you.. I’ve lived in Louisville for 22 years and BG for a year, and never saw one “Mexican” gang.You don't know how gangs work?
You sed my location. Figure it out. Guess you have Cali gang free. Congrats.
Oh. I forgot...lol.
Fair assessment, but the same could be said about yourself being disconnected to that part of society in America.I feel like your resentment comes from being close to people who are affected by tougher immigration policies. So I respect that you have a strong opinion on the matter. But I also suspect that it clouds your judgement.
But I am not disconnected from that part of society. I actually have a pretty strong connection. I even speak Spanish. Sometimes I have to fill in for interpreters in court. I have clients that are both legal and illegal.Fair assessment, but the same could be said about yourself being disconnected to that part of society in America.
That’s a good trait to have. To be honest, I’ve never starkly disagreed with you on a lot of political matters, we may not see eye to eye, but I’ve always respected your opinion, as I know you’ve respected mine, and I appreciate that.But I am not disconnected from that part of society. I actually have a pretty strong connection. I even speak Spanish. Sometimes I have to fill in for interpreters in court. I have clients that are both legal and illegal.
I can be easy to take the wrong way. And I often resort to smart ass and unproductive replies to comments I view as ridiculous which leads to that. But I feel like anyone who knows me on this board, knows when I am being genuine. I respect the fact that you don't accuse me of being a troll just because we are miles apart on social issues. We will disagree with each other many times again. But I respect you.That’s a good trait to have. To be honest, I’ve never starkly disagreed with you on a lot of political matters, we may not see eye to eye, but I’ve always respected your opinion, as I know you’ve respected mine, and I appreciate that.
I don't spend my lifetime making these arguments, so forgive me for standing on the shoulders of people that can do it better than I. That isn't a reason to be dismissive of the points I am trying to make.You can't make the point yourself or even summarize why a linked video was a good argument. Why should we engage you? And when we have, you've been dismissive. Why waste our time spelling it out for someone who still won't accept anything outside his narrative?
Not me directly but our family farm in Texas had a 15 year employee killed by an illegal driving without a license and drunk off his ass.By show of hands, how many people's lives ITT have been negatively affected by an illegal immigrant?
If I fall on my sword and accept all blame, does that mean this conversation is over? Okay then.I don't spend my lifetime making these arguments, so forgive me for standing on the shoulders of people that can do it better than I. That isn't a reason to be dismissive of the points I am trying to make.
Just because I was dismissive the one time you engaged me, you decide to shut down? I was dismissive because what you talked about had already been addressed and I found your point to be unconvincing. It's on you, or people that believe in your same ideals to convince me. Sorry I won't just flop on weak arguments.
No lolIf I fall on my sword and accept all blame, does that mean this conversation is over? Okay then.
Not me directly but our family farm in Texas had a 15 year employee killed by an illegal driving without a license and drunk off his ass.
Love how you tried to label me a millennial too, lolSadly this is where internet political conversation has gone in modern world. People too lazy to make coherent arguments so link some video of some person on other side of country to be held up as proof of something that is probably being taken out of context. This is what happens when millennials don't take debate classes or learn the value of logical arguments.
Who cares. Why are you trying to move the goal posts? The question was asked if anyone here had been effected by an illegal immigrant, and I gave a response.So is the rate of DUI's higher or lower among illegal immigrants?
What am I not knowledgeable about? Love how I'm unreasonable and don't have knowledge simply because I don't have a stance that you agree with. Here's your chance. Convince me. I could say you are equally not knowledgeable and unreasonable considering you won't have a conversation with me.I don't think you're very knowledgable or reasonable and I think it's a waste of time to keep talking to you.
Who cares. Why are you trying to move the goal posts? The question was asked if anyone here had been effected by an illegal immigrant, and I gave a response.
Strawman? This statement from you pretty much sums up every single statement you make. You never actually make a point whatsoever and you move the goal posts to try and move the argument into your favor.Yea, I'd explain it but you probably wouldn't get it.
Convince you I find you lacking in knowledge and reason? lolWhat am I not knowledgeable about? Love how I'm unreasonable and don't have knowledge simply because I don't have a stance that you agree with. Here's your chance. Convince me. I could say you are equally not knowledgeable and unreasonable considering you won't have a conversation with me.
Yes, that's exactly what I was saying. You're entitled to feel that way, just as I am to believe that you are wrong. The whole point of free speech is to have the exchange of ideas so those ideas can be put to the test and in most cases the best ideas prevail. College students and Antifa are trying to shut that down.Convince you I find you lacking in knowledge and reason? lol
Please, please, please go ahead and call me the same if it means this conversation can be over. You're so boring.
Wow Dattier. That is a horrible post.I don't think you're very knowledgable or reasonable and I think it's a waste of time to keep talking to you.
Well, he is an ass. Professor at a community college..Wow Dattier. That is a horrible post.
Do you think that you are more intelligent? Geeze.
Dat is a professor?Well, he is an ass. Professor at a community college..
Well that would explain a lot.I think??
Not me directly but our family farm in Texas had a 15 year employee killed by an illegal driving without a license and drunk off his ass.
Oh, I'm not actually from there. My mom started a horse farm down there because she felt that it was where you had to be if you were serious about doing so. It failed miserably lol, buy my sister still lives there and kept the farm, using it for other means.I did not know you hailed from Texas. Great state.
I once lived in the western side of Houston; near Katy. I loved it and the folks. But damned it gets hot and dry.
This last spring with all the floods, I saw a boat going down the ditch by Texas 6.