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I guess you don't remember Obama is going to enact Sharia Law type of fear-mongering. Or Obama is going to take all of your guns. Or the immigrants are rapists and murderers thing going on right now. I'm not saying the right is the only one, but it's definitely not just one side.
So how do educated people eradicate garbage like this that simpletons eat up? How do we hold idiots that put this stuff accountable? We live in a world where national news is saying look at this tweet....look at this conflict but only interview one side.....here we reported on an issue for 5 min and then have 5 biased people translating what they feel happened.
 
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I guess you don't remember Obama is going to enact Sharia Law type of fear-mongering. Or Obama is going to take all of your guns. Or the immigrants are rapists and murderers thing going on right now. I'm not saying the right is the only one, but it's definitely not just one side.
You are right about the Obama stuff. I don't remember the sharia law thing. But I don't doubt that there were some rednecks who would say that. Did any leaders in Congress say that?

It is very tiring to see people continually bring up the rapists and murderers thing though. When taken out of context, you can make it look bad. When you are being honest and look at what was really said, he is not wrong or fear-mongering, he is telling a hard truth.
 
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So how do educated people eradicate garbage like this that simpletons eat up? How do we hold idiots that put this stuff accountable? We live in a world where national news is saying look at this tweet....look at this conflict but only interview one side.....here we reported on an issue for 5 min and then have 5 biased people translating what they feel happened.
My SO works in a field that directly studies how people ingest information. The younger generations are way less susceptible to believing misinformation whereas the older generations have never had to evaluate what they read in that manner. It seems to me that the only way we can eradicate this issue is to just kill them off.. ;)
 
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Is anyone advocating for socialism or is that the right fear-mongering? Advocating for socialists programs isn't the same as advocating for a socialist government. We're not going to turn into Venezuela if we get socialized healthcare, which is very successful throughout the world and the majority of Americans now want.
I am not worried about it ever happening. But are you denying that there is a move towards socialism inside the democratic party? Wasn't there just a poll that showed that more Democrats were enthusiastic about socialism than they were about capitalism? You have a New York congressional race and the governor's race being led by open socialist. Plus you have the Bern outs. That doesn't strike me as moderate. But to each their own.
 
Avatar bet? If I win you wear Trump, if you win it's your choice.

Why not.... Let's do it! But not during basketball season :)..... We'll set our Trumpets aside for then...

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My SO works in a field that directly studies how people ingest information. The younger generations are way less susceptible to believing misinformation whereas the older generations have never had to evaluate what they read in that manner. It seems to me that the only way we can eradicate this issue is to just kill them off.. ;)
I think thats probably true. A lot of the older generation usually have 1-3 things they support and care about the most----and they stick to them hell or high water. The younger generations tackle a wide range of issues, but in my opinion place an inordinate value on collections of small issues, rather than the big 3-4. Economy, Taxes, Healthcare, and national security. I think the younger generations issue is there is an orgy of information at all times and its used as a conversational weapon instead of just a differing point of view. I think we have a major problem where people are listening to reply instead of listening to understand.
 
I am not worried about it ever happening. But are you denying that there is a move towards socialism inside the democratic party? Wasn't there just a poll that showed that more Democrats were enthusiastic about socialism than they were about capitalism? You have a New York congressional race and the governor's race being led by open socialist. Plus you have the Bern outs. That doesn't strike me as moderate. But to each their own.
I think we have a generation of people that are no longer afraid of the label, and they are not afraid of taking the pieces of it that has worked throughout the world and plan on using it to better their country. Capitalism has been abused in the same way socialism has. Neither are bad at their core, but both are susceptible to abuse.
 
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This appears to be POTUS position towards Google's algorithm:

If "Trump" is in search:
Be bigly prejudice

If "Trump" is not in search:
Run the greatest search algorithm in the history of the planet like always
 
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So what is going to be the "Bombshell" story today to get everyone all worked up only for it to be another nothing burger?

It is Friday and a three day weekend. Isn't that when they like to drop big news stories?
 
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So what is going to be the "Bombshell" story today to get everyone all worked up only for it to be another nothing burger?

It is Friday and a three day weekend. Isn't that when they like to drop big news stories?
I'm sure the MSM will make something up. My guess is they continue to beat this "monkey" comment to death by Desantis. They love the opportunity to jump straight to racism when it comes to the GOP. Probably because they don't want to discuss the actual issues/policies/positions.
 
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I'm sure the MSM will make something up. My guess is they continue to beat this "monkey" comment to death by Desantis. They love the opportunity to jump straight to racism when it comes to the GOP. Probably because they don't want to discuss the actual issues/policies/positions.

they always play the race card because they are so afraid that they will lose some of their minority voters
it is pathetic
it is also pathetic how anyone could view his "monkey" comment as a racist remark
you know they have already lost when they have to spin something into a race remark when it had absolutely nothing to do with race
 
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I'm sure the MSM will make something up. My guess is they continue to beat this "monkey" comment to death by Desantis. They love the opportunity to jump straight to racism when it comes to the GOP. Probably because they don't want to discuss the actual issues/policies/positions.
I seem to recall a certain group being pretty upset about a comment containing the word deplorables. They weee so upset about it that they use it today as a slogan or label to differentiate themselves.

There is no history of Democrats calling conservatives deplorable, yet, there is a lot of history of animal comparisons when speaking about black folks.

I agree, the overkill is unneeded, but we can’t just look at the comment and immediately dismiss it as harmless. You, nor I know what the intent was. But, we do know that is is seen as offensive by some and rightfully so in my opinion. The use of the word “monkey” in the context of the statement makes little sense to me. I have never heard people saying “monkey it up” before. It surely isn’t common and I can think of several words that complete that phrase that are very common.

I will admit that I’m certain circles, that comment may be common. That wouldn’t however support the argument that it wasn’t meant to be demeaning.
 
I seem to recall a certain group being pretty upset about a comment containing the word deplorables. They weee so upset about it that they use it today as a slogan or label to differentiate themselves.

There is no history of Democrats calling conservatives deplorable, yet, there is a lot of history of animal comparisons when speaking about black folks.

I agree, the overkill is unneeded, but we can’t just look at the comment and immediately dismiss it as harmless. You, nor I know what the intent was. But, we do know that is is seen as offensive by some and rightfully so in my opinion. The use of the word “monkey” in the context of the statement makes little sense to me. I have never heard people saying “monkey it up” before. It surely isn’t common and I can think of several words that complete that phrase that are very common.

I will admit that I’m certain circles, that comment may be common. That wouldn’t however support the argument that it wasn’t meant to be demeaning.
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/v...ng-time-obama-used-monkey-exact-way-desantis/

Obama used it in a similar manner and I don't recall the media jumping all over him for it.

But I agree with your post, for the most part. I just don't think this comment was a big deal, poor choice of words, but not a big deal.
 
So what is going to be the "Bombshell" story today to get everyone all worked up only for it to be another nothing burger?

It is Friday and a three day weekend. Isn't that when they like to drop big news stories?

Ok I'll bite.... 1) Trump is putting together a committee to eradicate legalization of marijuana. He states it is a national security danger.

2) He's decreasing the overseers of our nuclear arsenal by a lot. He's also increasing production of nuclear weapons, and testing a new one.
 
Ok I'll bite.... 1) Trump is putting together a committee to eradicate legalization of marijuana. He states it is a national security danger.

2) He's decreasing the overseers of our nuclear arsenal by a lot. He's also increasing production of nuclear weapons, and testing a new one.
Well. He can pretty much count out California in 2020.
 
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/v...ng-time-obama-used-monkey-exact-way-desantis/

Obama used it in a similar manner and I don't recall the media jumping all over him for it.

But I agree with your post, for the most part. I just don't think this comment was a big deal, poor choice of words, but not a big deal.[/QUOTE

Yeah, I don’t see how the two statements equate. Monkey around is common and means some totally different than monkey up, which I don’t think is common.

Either way, I agree it’s overblown and silly. Dems need to get smart and stop attacking everything as it seems petty. There are some serious issues I feel they could focus on ama gain more favor.

Case in point. Don’t attach a word such as socialist or socialism to a idea. That isn’t going to go over well no matter what it encompasses. People won’t kkoe what you stand for as they will ignore you due to the simple fact that you tag it as socialism. They need to be smarter than that.
 
Come on man, they both use the word "monkey" in a similar manner. Neither involve or have anything to do with race. It's a narrative the MSM and Democrats want to push. That's it.
 
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/v...ng-time-obama-used-monkey-exact-way-desantis/

Obama used it in a similar manner and I don't recall the media jumping all over him for it.
You really need to vet your sources better.

There's a world of difference between the very common phrase "monkey around" and the very unusual "monkey it up." There's also the historical context when it's directed at a black person.

No one jumped all over it because it was not so similar. You might as well claim "I hate black licorice" and "I hate black people" are similar.
 
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Come on man, they both use the word "monkey" in a similar manner. Neither involve or have anything to do with race. It's a narrative the MSM and Democrats want to push. That's it.
No, not very similar.
It has quite a bit of history behind it related to race. That is what is being addressed.
 
No, not very similar.
It has quite a bit of history behind it related to race. That is what is being addressed.

in this case it was not even close to being related to race
so why are so many trying to race bait with his comment

constantly trying to use the race card for political reasons devalues the true fight against racism
 
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You really need to vet your sources better.

There's a world of difference between the very common phrase "monkey around" and the very unusual "monkey it up." There's also the historical context when it's directed at a black person.

No one jumped all over it because it was not so similar. You might as well claim "I hate black licorice" and "I hate black people" are similar.
No, there's really no difference. Everyone jumped all over the phrase because liberals love to play the race card as quickly as possible because it takes the focus off their shitty policies ESPECIALLY in this case where the guy is pushing socialism.
 
No, not very similar.
It has quite a bit of history behind it related to race. That is what is being addressed.
Yup. They really are when you listen to the comments. It has zero to do with race. YOU and other liberals WANT to make it about race. That's it.
 
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in this case it was not even close to being related to race
so why are so many trying to race bait with his comment

constantly trying to use the race card for political reasons devalues the true fight against racism
When do conservatives ever acknowledge anything is actually race-related?

Forget racist -- we can't read the dude's mind -- y'all won't even concede that when an awkward phrase includes a word that has been used as a slur to dehumanize black people for hundreds of years in talking about a black politician, it is understandably troublesome and the dude who said it really stepped in it.
 
No, there's really no difference. Everyone jumped all over the phrase because liberals love to play the race card as quickly as possible because it takes the focus off their shitty policies ESPECIALLY in this case where the guy is pushing socialism.
No, people jumped on it b/c it here b/c of exactly what I said and people are legitimately bothered that he would go there even accidentally.

You don't like kneejerk accusations of racism, right? Then stop being a hypocrite who dismisses every single thing that concerns people about race as "the race card." It isn't. It could be non-racist and still bothersome on racial grounds. You can not see it that way and someone else can and you can both be entirely sincere. You won't allow that, though.
 
There is a thread with a race discussion going on and a thread dedicated to Dattier's agenda. Do we have to make this one about race too?
 
When do conservatives ever acknowledge anything is actually race-related?

Forget racist -- we can't read the dude's mind -- y'all won't even concede that when an awkward phrase includes a word that has been used as a slur to dehumanize black people for hundreds of years in talking about a black politician, it is understandably troublesome and the dude who said it really stepped in it.
You are reaching. Republicans can acknowledge when plenty of things are race related. Most of the time when I try to even remotely agree with you on something race related you just completely ignore my post. I'm not sure if you just prefer the fight, or what.

What you fail to understand, it seems like, is comprehending that bringing race into absolutely every situation is very counterproductive. It turns people off to actual real racism, almost like crying wolf. I think you would actually find most conservatives would agree with plenty of your stances on race, but at the same time, get tired of you shouting racism at the top of your lungs as the reason to every issue we face as a country.
 
You are reaching. Republicans can acknowledge when plenty of things are race related. Most of the time when I try to even remotely agree with you on something race related you just completely ignore my post. I'm not sure if you just prefer the fight, or what.

What you fail to understand, it seems like, is comprehending that bringing race into absolutely every situation is very counterproductive. It turns people off to actual real racism, almost like crying wolf. I think you would actually find most conservatives would agree with plenty of your stances on race, but at the same time, get tired of you shouting racism at the top of your lungs as the reason to every issue we face as a country.
Conservatives don't recognize racism and are unwilling to learn or accept different viewpoints. They go on the attack immediately, calling everything "the race card."

It would be nice if you did reach for anything intellectually. EVER.
 
Conservatives don't recognize racism and are unwilling to learn or accept different viewpoints. They go on the attack immediately, calling everything "the race card."

It would be nice if you did reach for anything intellectually. EVER.
Dat, this is bullshit and you know it. Maybe if you took the time to read the posts where I've tried to agree with you on things you would realize that. But again, you only nit pick which posts to respond to, the ones where you can belittle people who don't agree with you. Whatever, dude.
 
Now this is racism.... Being sold on Ebay as wall art... I was very surprised, in norcross ga, there's a park called picaninny park. This is in the heart of a technology area...

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ate-sam-patten-is-charged-with-fara-violation

Washington lobbyist W. Samuel Patten pleaded guilty Friday to acting as an unregistered foreign lobbyist, and admitted to lying to the Senate Intelligence Committee and funneling a Ukrainian oligarch's money to Donald Trump's Presidential Inaugural Committee. It’s part of the Mueller investigation, and he has agreed to work with them.
 
DeSantis using that choice of words was no accident. It was strategy, taken straight out of the Trump playbook.

-Use a racially insensitive word or phrase when talking about black person, in this case, his opponent
-Wait for the 'liberal media' to respond to it
-Exploit the predictable liberal outrage to enrage Trump's base, which will motivate them to vote

Elements of both sides getting played, to republican advantage. Or at least that's the intent.
 
DeSantis using that choice of words was no accident. It was strategy, taken straight out of the Trump playbook.

-Use a racially insensitive word or phrase when talking about black person, in this case, his opponent
-Wait for the 'liberal media' to respond to it
-Exploit the predictable liberal outrage to enrage Trump's base, which will motivate them to vote

Elements of both sides getting played, to republican advantage. Or at least that's the intent.
Lol. This was you joking, right?
 
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ate-sam-patten-is-charged-with-fara-violation

Washington lobbyist W. Samuel Patten pleaded guilty Friday to acting as an unregistered foreign lobbyist, and admitted to lying to the Senate Intelligence Committee and funneling a Ukrainian oligarch's money to Donald Trump's Presidential Inaugural Committee. It’s part of the Mueller investigation, and he has agreed to work with them.
Doesn’t harm Trump. Nothing to see here. Moving on...
 
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