Corruption
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I guess you didn't read the part where I said, it was reimbursed through a campaign expense report. I don't expect you to think there's anything wrong with Trump. Bet you think he hasn't lied once.....
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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I get why people don't want to believe the possibilities. And I definitely get why people will presume innocence until proven guilty.
What I don't get is why people don't even want to ask questions and/or want the investigation ended. This is potentially the biggest political story in American history.
To me it's fascinating from an historical perspective. Espionage, the mafia, the larger than life image of the president, the presidency itself, the two biggest super powers in world history, treason (or close to it if true) - not ashamed to admit I'm hooked.
Where did I say Trump hasn't lied? Please link that for me or else don't be a douchebag making shit up.
I guess you didn't read the part where I said if Trump acknowledges the use of campaign funds specifically, then it would be trouble. However, if Cohen just asks Trump for approval to pay the women, I don't think that's an issue for Trump. He could claim he never instructed Cohen to use campaign funds. Again I don't know enough to say what happened. If Trump knew and agreed to Cohen using campaign funds, he's in trouble. If he didn't directly tell Cohen to use campaign funds, he won't be in trouble.
I think that's the part we don't know, right? Whether or not Trump knew campaign funds were being used. That's exactly what I think he'll do if he's not directly caught on tape telling Cohen to use campaign funds. He could just throw Cohen under the bus saying he didn't and wouldn't instruct Cohen to break the law. Now, all of that is subject to the idea he isn't on tape or caught on some other means of approving campaign funds being used.
This could be the biggest political witch hunt in American history as well. We don't know where it's gonna end up. My guess, again, is Mueller won't find anything definitive on collusion and won't be able to directly charge him with obstruction. Dems will call for impeachment. Republicans won't do anything. And we'll be back here bitching about all of it. BUT, I'm good letting Mueller do his thing. If there are real ties to Russia, kick his ass out. I'm good with that. I am just on the side where I don't think it's likely.
Side question: How many wins are the Hoosiers going to end up with this season?
He won't be in trouble even if it's proven that he used campaign funds, at least not while he's in office. I don't know what it's going to take to get 18 republican senators to convict on an impeachment charge, but it won't be that.
They could issue a sealed indictment and wait 2-6 years (not sure about statute of limitations) and then charge him.
One thing I'm pretty confident about, though - before his term is over, Trump is going to set the record for landmark Supreme Court cases related to executive privilege. He's literally inventing previously unimaginable constitutional questions every week.
It would take an extremely ignorant and dumb person to think that. But I guess you think that all Trump supporters are extremely ignorant and dumb, so in your mind, you're right.
Fair enough. But his opponent had some pretty shady business of her own. It has been a shit show with Trump in office, I have no doubt it would have been a shit show with her in office. But I doubt there would have been any investigations into her misdeeds. And I am just giving my opinion, not trying to say her misdeeds were or were not worse.
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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This post is rich. Yes, I do think most of his supporters are ignorant & dumb. Thanks for furthering my point.
If there are no tapes or documented records, it's going to be nearly impossible to prove any of the Russian narratives. It'll come down to testimony and credibility of the witnesses, in which case Mueller probably won't even recommend charges, because everyone involved is a lying shitbag. It would just be a circus.
I'm pretty optimistic, but I hate to predict what I really think because I'm a homer. Archie has totally revamped that roster with talent in just one year. They'll likely go into over half of their B1G games this year with the two best players on the court, so it's hard to imagine they won't be in contention for the conference title. I'd feel better about their tournament potential if they had a rim protector (other than Forrester, who probably won't play much).
There was nothing rich anout that. I think you took more offense to my comment than was intended. And then you verify what I was being sarcastic about, which makes you pretty ignorant.
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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What was that think Trump said about 5th Ave. and shooting someone, and still getting support from his followers? 
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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Well, you came back pretty defensively. But whatever.I took offense?? Lololll.
Okay..
I laughed at the bold part because it's 100% true.
On the Hoosiers. I just have no clue what's gonna happen. I think I've just been beaten down by Tom Crean for so long that I'm pessimistic. I think we'll make the tournament. Just don't know much other than that.
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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You know this just pushes the people who voted for him the first time, to vote for him a second time, right? The fact that the liberals think Trump voters aren't smart enough to think for themselves and make their own judgements on what's important in their own lives. But hey, keep it up. I'd love another six years of Trump. Trump Derangement Syndrome would be rampant in our country by the end of his second term.
I won't do it again. There is actual discussion going on here. I wasn't trying to start an ankle biting competition with you, but I should have known that's where it would lead to. My apologies.
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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Lol, by all means...carry on with your “conversation”. I’ll try not to nip so hard, my sensitive man.
I guess I'm just the opposite - I'm so relieved Crean is gone that I think everything will be rainbows and rose pedals from now on.
The last two times IU had great inside/outside combos (Zeller/Oladipo and DJ/Gordon), they were top 5.
Morgan/Langford have that same potential - they just need a couple more guys to emerge and be dependable. Archie will take care of the defense by the time conference season rolls around.
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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I wasn't saying that I was having a conversation. I said there was actual conversation going on. There is no need in us interrupting it with petty bullshit.
Oops, I quoted you again. But this is it.
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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There were no less than 7 investigations into Benghazi, totaling
Did y’all miss the seven Benghazi investigations?
How many indictments are we up to in Mueller's investigation?
How many came out of all those Benghazi investigations? You know, the incident that was investigated more than 9/11 in Congress?
Now that you have looked up those two metrics, look up the definition of witch hunt and get back to me.
When Mueller's "speaking indictment" is released, we'll definitely learn more about what's going on. This will be made public soon....
https://www.newsweek.com/what-speaking-indictment-muellers-key-tool-russia-investigation-1089564
https://www.newsweek.com/what-speaking-indictment-muellers-key-tool-russia-investigation-1089564
What I find really neat is the folks that the folks on the left look for everything to complain about Trump. What I've read from the right is they agree he is an arrogant, pompous, jerk that needs to shut his mouth.
Where it gets almost comical is the sound of crickets when it comes to Hilary. All the left does is find the next thing to fuss about Trump. What has she done? Does the left actually believe she is a decent lady? I think she's a waste of oxygen personally, doesn't care about anyone but her own a**, and that's the good qualities in her.
The left reminds me of the lady who was at the beach with her son. He went out swimming and started to drown. The lifeguards went to him, brought him to land, and saved his life. The mom looked in and said, "He had a hat on."
Where it gets almost comical is the sound of crickets when it comes to Hilary. All the left does is find the next thing to fuss about Trump. What has she done? Does the left actually believe she is a decent lady? I think she's a waste of oxygen personally, doesn't care about anyone but her own a**, and that's the good qualities in her.
The left reminds me of the lady who was at the beach with her son. He went out swimming and started to drown. The lifeguards went to him, brought him to land, and saved his life. The mom looked in and said, "He had a hat on."
You guys still being completely obsessed with Hillary is disturbing. I'm not even a Hillary fan (though she would be 10x better than Trump) .
As to why most sane people aren't asking "what about Hillary?!?"... It's almost like Hillary isn't President of the United States of America. Weird, right?
And let's not ignore the fact that the far right has been chanting "lock her up" for two years while they were in power, and they haven't found anything on her.
Is that really an argument you want to make?
My question was a hypothetical one that would only be relevant to her being president. Do you think that Benghazi is the only shadiness around her?
I haven't ignored it. I have said how stupid I think it is that Trump still brings her up at his rallies and how dumb the people who chant that look.
What evidence is there of her or everyone surrounding her breaking the law? Because as far as I can tell, what she has for breakfast every morning has been investigated and no illegal activity has been found.
Christ. I am going to have to assume that I am doing something wrong here. WTF? I am just joining in on a conversation here, not accusing you of calling me out. Just giving my opinion on what you were talking about.
Calm down. I merely pointed out I wasn't addressing you. No need to stroke out.
You started out your reply by essentially saying "I know you're not talking about me, but I'm going to reply like you are anyways."
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