Can we talk a little bit about LSU?

[dukedevilz]

Amateurs. Unbelievable. K is smart enough to not talk about paying players over the phone. Everyone with any sense knows that the cleanest way to cheat is to not leave a trail behind. Also, he has assistant who handle the business side of recruiting.

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

That picture is not of KYJEFF but Bert! Eyeroll

 

[Tigerocker]

Yeah, but this thread is about LSU and your coach is one of 4 or 5 coaches that has been caught.

If any other coaches were caught, we would be talking about them. But I don't think it's right to assume half the nation is cheating.

Making a couple phone calls during a no contact period is cheating, I guess, but it's not on the same level as what's happening with this scandal.

So yeah, I'm sure every coach out there bends the rules to some degree, so you're right, everyone is probably cheating, but pay for play is at a different level.

I'll say this, there are sooooo many people just waiting for Cal to step out of line just for a second. Guys like Forde, Thamel and the NCAA pretty much have their trailers set up right outside his door hoping he slips up one time, so I highly doubt he's involved in any of this garbage.

But hey, LSU has a nice team this year, probably going to win some games in the NCAAT, but if I had to guess, I'd say any banners LSU wins, will need to be mounted with velcro in a place that is easily accessible.

I realize what Wade did is not good but if you really think he is the only one paying for players including UK you are insainly fvcking crazy. Do you really think all these 5 stars go to UK because of the name Kentucky. Calipari was caught cheating at Memphis and lucked up and got the UK job before he went down with the ship. Pearl was caught and the list goes on and on and every team inside the Top 5 has bought players and that's all good with me because I know it exist.

Wade is a very young Coach that hasn't been through what some of these older Coaches have and just slipped up from not being experienced enough to know how not to get caught. He will learn a big lesson and move on and be just like the other Coaches in the SEC who have been there done that and know how to handle the situation. I'm just going to enjoy the rest of this season and expect the worst in late April.

 

[WeAreDePaul]

Amateurs. Unbelievable. K is smart enough to not talk about paying players over the phone. Everyone with any sense knows that the cleanest way to cheat is to not leave a trail behind. Also, he has assistant who handle the business side of recruiting.

I would chalk it up to experience. Wade isn't even 40 years old. Coach K is like 75. I'm sure back in the day Coach K wasn't nearly as careful when he was on the rotary phone talking to Johnny Dawkins and Jay Bilas' parents working out the details of the pay to play side of the scholarship offer.

Give Wade time, in 10 years he'll probably have dead drops all over Baton Rouge.

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

I realize what Wade did is not good but if you really think he is the only one paying for players including UK you are crazy. Do you really think all these 5 stars go to UK because of the name Kentucky. Calipari was caught cheating at Memphis and lucked up and got the UK job before he went down with the Ship. Pearl was caught and the list goes on and on and every team inside the Top 5 has bought players and that's all good with me because I know it exist.

Wade is a very young Coach that hasn't been through what some of these older Coaches have and just slipped up from not being experienced enough to know how not to get caught. He will learn a big lesson and move on and be just like the other Coaches in the SEC who have been there done that and know how to handle the situation. I'm just going to enjoy the rest of this season and expect the worst in late April.

Calipari was not caught paying players at Memphis. It was an entrance exam that the NCAA ruled on. Cal did not leave Memphis before the hammer came down.

Pearl is a cheat; however, he simply can't live without cheating.

So the straw man arguments do not win debates.

The reason those players are attracted to Kentucky is that they (Kentucky) are the winningest program in college basketball, the largest following, the largest TV exposure, the most players in the NBA, the best facilities et.al.; how does Auburn, Tennessee and LSU compete with 90 years of tradition?

 

[WeAreDePaul]

how does Auburn, Tennessee and LSU compete with 90 years of tradition?

 

[Monorojo]

It just means more lol

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

Laughing

Post of the week!

 

[SpartanJD]

So L$U hoops is dirty.

They should withdraw from the tourney and try to save a little face.

 

[WeAreDePaul]

So L$U hoops is dirty.

They should withdraw from the tourney and try to save a little face.

good idea, but I think they'll try and win it all instead.

 

[kl40504]

So how about the other schools that the FBI hasn't revealed yet ? They gonna take down half the nation before it's over. This is just a tip of the iceberg.

Keep dreaming. LSU decided to make a pact with the devil and got caught. Barnes did not need to cheat to get 3 and 4 star recruits and Cal doesn't need to cheat to get top level talent that wants a path to the NBA.

 

[WeAreDePaul]

Keep dreaming. LSU decided to make a pact with the devil and got caught. Barnes did not need to cheat to get 3 and 4 star recruits and Cal doesn't need to cheat to get top level talent that wants a path to the NBA.

You're living in fantasy land if you think LSU is gonna get in any trouble from this. NCAA non-stated position is going to be that this is just SOP for 90% of the colleges out there and that to bust a few would open the floodgates to the entire system being exposed. No way they chance that.

Same reason they didn't punish UNC. Didn't want to have to move on to the next UNC.

But keep the salty tears coming, loving it.

 

[kyjeff1]

I realize what Wade did is not good but if you really think he is the only one paying for players including UK you are insainly fvcking crazy. Do you really think all these 5 stars go to UK because of the name Kentucky. Calipari was caught cheating at Memphis and lucked up and got the UK job before he went down with the ship. Pearl was caught and the list goes on and on and every team inside the Top 5 has bought players and that's all good with me because I know it exist.

Wade is a very young Coach that hasn't been through what some of these older Coaches have and just slipped up from not being experienced enough to know how not to get caught. He will learn a big lesson and move on and be just like the other Coaches in the SEC who have been there done that and know how to handle the situation. I'm just going to enjoy the rest of this season and expect the worst in late April.

Stopped reading at "Calipari was caught cheating at Memphis". No he wasn't and that statement tells me you know absolutely zilch about that situation.

For your information, Rose is the one that was accused of having his brother take his SAT. That's not a "paying players" situation. Also, Calipari was cleared by the NCAA (in the UMass case as well).

Do I think everyone is paying players? No. Why would I accuse people of such a thing without proof of it? There IS proof of Wade doing it.

Why does UK get all those 5* players? Well, obviously you can't figure it out on your own, so I'll help you.

Let's start with the facilities, follow it up with the fact that every game is on ESPN or CBS, follow that up with tremendous fan support and end it with the simple fact that Calipari is putting more players in the first round of the NBA draft than any other coach and those players are very well prepared when they get there.

Now you can throw a fit and go off at the mouth with your accusations, but you come off like a guy that was caught red handed with your "everybody does it" junk.

Until proof comes out, it is ridiculous to accuse people of paying players or cheating. Will Wade is on tape, Cal, K, Roy, Wright etc... Are not.

You don't have to pay players when you can show proven results, great facilities and exposure.

Lastly, learn the facts about what happened at Memphis and UMass before you make accusations and look like an even bigger fool.

 

[kyjeff1]

You're living in fantasy land if you think LSU is gonna get in any trouble from this. NCAA non-stated position is going to be that this is just SOP for 90% of the colleges out there and that to bust a few would open the floodgates to the entire system being exposed. No way they chance that.

Same reason they didn't punish UNC. Didn't want to have to move on to the next UNC.

But keep the salty tears coming, loving it.

I hope LSU doesn't get punished. I hope Wade has a legit excuse for what he said on those taps and he is fully cleared of everything.

I think the guys is an excellent coach and could make LSU a consistent contender .

I just don't know what he could say to explain what is on those taps.

But you can't compare the Wade/LSU case to the UNC case, that was academic fraud, this (Wade) is paying players. Totally different.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

All the schools heavily involved are already out by the FBI. Whats left will be kids that had deals with agents that will come out in the next trial. But the NCAA wont do anything to those schools unless its shown the school knew the player got money from the agent. call it the Corey Maggette defense.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Wade has been suspended by LSU.

Tony Benford will serve as LSU’s interim head coach as the school investigates

 

[JRMSU]

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

Wade has been suspended by LSU.

Tony Benford will serve as LSU’s interim head coach as the school investigates

What timing.

It sort of screws up the direction this thread was going.

UK cheats. LSU are saints.

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

You're living in fantasy land if you think LSU is gonna get in any trouble from this. NCAA non-stated position is going to be that this is just SOP for 90% of the colleges out there and that to bust a few would open the floodgates to the entire system being exposed. No way they chance that.

Same reason they didn't punish UNC. Didn't want to have to move on to the next UNC.

But keep the salty tears coming, loving it.

Opps.

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

It just means more lol

It does mean more. In fact the money brought in by the SEC is unmatched.

It just means more lol!

 

[Bert Higginbotha]

Stopped reading at "Calipari was caught cheating at Memphis". No he wasn't and that statement tells me you know absolutely zilch about that ditsituat. For your information, Rose is the one that was accused of having his brother take his SAT. That's not a "paying players" situation. Also, Calipari was cleared by the NCAA (in the UMass case as well).

Do I think everyone is paying players? No. Why would I accuse people of such a thing without proof of it? There IS proof of Wade doing it.

Why does UK get all those 5* players? Well, obviously you can't figure it out on your own, so I'll help you.

Let's start with the facilities, follow it up with the fact that every game is on ESPN or CBS, follow that up with tremendous fan support and end it with the simple fact that Calipari is putting more players in the first round of the NBA draft than any other coach and those players are very well prepared when they get there.

Now you can throw a fit and go off at the mouth with your accusations, but you come off like a guy that was caught red handed with your "everybody does it" junk.

Until proof comes out, it is ridiculous to accuse people of paying players or cheating. Will Wade is on tape, Cal, K, Roy, Wright etc... Are not.

You don't have to pay players when you can show proven results, great facilities and exposure.

Lastly, learn the facts about what happened at Memphis and UMass before you make accusations and look like an even bigger fool.

Preach it brother. Lay down the truth.

 

[kyjeff1]

What timing.

It sort of screws up the direction this thread was going.

UK cheats. LSU are saints.

Exactly. Can't wait for these LSU fans to either disappear (expected) or come back and tell us again that every coach is cheating, you know, because Cal did it at Memphis and UMASS Eyeroll

 

[kyjeff1]

You're living in fantasy land if you think LSU is gonna get in any trouble from this. NCAA non-stated position is going to be that this is just SOP for 90% of the colleges out there and that to bust a few would open the floodgates to the entire system being exposed. No way they chance that.

Same reason they didn't punish UNC. Didn't want to have to move on to the next UNC.

But keep the salty tears coming, loving it.

So are you just going to be a DePaul fan now?

Do you want to retract the highlighted part now or do you need to see more?

 

[WeAreDePaul]

So are you just going to be a DePaul fan now?

Do you want to retract the highlighted part now or do you need to see more?

What needs to be retracted? LSU hasn't gotten in trouble and they won't. This is just an overreaction by the school itself. No different than last year when Arizona suspended Ayton for a few games for the same crap. Hopefully LSU smartens up and reinstates him before the tournament.

 

[WeAreDePaul]

What timing.

It sort of screws up the direction this thread was going.

UK cheats. LSU are saints.

Nice persecution complex Bert. Who in this thread was saying that LSU doesn't cheat? It's obvious that LSU cheats. My point is that I don't think the NCAA is going to do anything about it.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

Nice persecution complex Bert. Who in this thread was saying that LSU doesn't cheat? It's obvious that LSU cheats. My point is that I don't think the NCAA is going to do anything about it.

FWIW, they recently just vacated a National Championship for the first time.

But, fingers crossed.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

 

[WeAreDePaul]

FWIW, they recently just vacated a National Championship for the first time.

But, fingers crossed.

Yes they did, for an isolated incident of cheating. I don't believe the NCAA is going to touch this for fear of it opening the floodgates. Way too many teams could be touched by this. best to just sweep it under the rug and forget about it.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

LSU might as well do a self ban at this point... sit Smart... they arent winning jack crap now anyways with suspending Wade.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

If Smart sits and LSU wins, then even if all of Smart's games are vacated, they would still kept the title.

Right?

 

[kl40504]

You're living in fantasy land if you think LSU is gonna get in any trouble from this. NCAA non-stated position is going to be that this is just SOP for 90% of the colleges out there and that to bust a few would open the floodgates to the entire system being exposed. No way they chance that.

Same reason they didn't punish UNC. Didn't want to have to move on to the next UNC.

But keep the salty tears coming, loving it.

So why did LSU suspend Wade? Please explain.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

BTW, UK still has a chance for a regular season title.

 

[kl40504]

Yes they did, for an isolated incident of cheating. I don't believe the NCAA is going to touch this for fear of it opening the floodgates. Way too many teams could be touched by this. best to just sweep it under the rug and forget about it.

Wrong.

 

[kyjeff1]

What needs to be retracted? LSU hasn't gotten in trouble and they won't. This is just an overreaction by the school itself. No different than last year when Arizona suspended Ayton for a few games for the same crap. Hopefully LSU smartens up and reinstates him before the tournament.

LMAO, you obviously don't understand just how serious this is. Wade is done man.

 

[kyjeff1]

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@WeAreDePaul
He's referring to you when he says the fans don't get it.

 

[lurkeraspect84]

LMAO, you obviously don't understand just how serious this is. Wade is done man.

100% done.

 

[kl40504]

Along with being a DePaul fan I've always had a special place in my heart for LSU. Started when I was an impressionable 16 year old and I spent the whole weekend at the Rosemont Horizon for the opening round of the NCAA in 1987. LSU was there and I fell in with their fans and ended up spending the whole weekend hanging with them cause they were so fun. Ever since then I've been an LSU fan.

Being an LSU bball fan isn't really that dissimilar from being a DePaul fan. You get to appreciate decades of coaching incompetence and watch a program get run into the ground before your very eyes. I got to watch Ray Meyer and Dale Brown, quite possibly two of the worst in game coaches in the history of CBB.

But, after over a decade of what can best be described as apathy, it appears as if LSU might finally be on to something and ready to turn the corner. I really like this new young coach Wade and the energy he brings to the program. It's exactly what a program like LSU needed. And throw in the combo of Wade and a really nice looking freshman PG in Waters (who looks like a 4 year guy) and I can definitely see this team becoming a factor in the SEC in the next year or so.

I'm really excited about what Wade is going to do for this program. Especially after watching Jones coach the team 2 years ago with Ben Simmons in what can only be described as the worst season long exhibition in head coaching in the history of CBB.

GEAUX TIGERS!

Would you like to talk a little more LSU.? Maybe Will Wade.

 

[mebeblue2]

I realize what Wade did is not good but if you really think he is the only one paying for players including UK you are insainly fvcking crazy. Do you really think all these 5 stars go to UK because of the name Kentucky. Calipari was caught cheating at Memphis and lucked up and got the UK job before he went down with the ship. Pearl was caught and the list goes on and on and every team inside the Top 5 has bought players and that's all good with me because I know it exist.

Wade is a very young Coach that hasn't been through what some of these older Coaches have and just slipped up from not being experienced enough to know how not to get caught. He will learn a big lesson and move on and be just like the other Coaches in the SEC who have been there done that and know how to handle the situation. I'm just going to enjoy the rest of this season and expect the worst in late April.

i am assuming you can provide a link from the NCAA that states Cal was caught cheating at Memphis or anywhere else
if not then you just sound very ignorant

 

[RipThru]

A couple years ago LSU won two league games. Wade shows up and all of a sudden he’s getting top recruits from the northeast. Why? All the tradition? All the NCAA tourney success Wade has had? Hell Ray Charles could see this dork was cheating.

 

[kyjeff1]

A couple years ago LSU won two league games. Wade shows up and all of a sudden he’s getting top recruits from the northeast. Why? All the tradition? All the NCAA tourney success Wade has had? Hell Ray Charles could see this dork was cheating.

Well, you know, some kids like that yellow and purple combination and that whole "GEAUX" thing, that's prolly it.