Can we talk a little bit about LSU?
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Bert has pointed out that several schools have gone undefeated in that time span.
But technically, you're not wrong. The SEC didn't have an 18-game conference slate until the 2013 season, so LSU is, in fact, just the 4th team to go 9-0 in the SEC on the road. The misleading part is where the stat says since 1996. From 1996-2012, there was only 8 conference road games.
Hopefully they have him saying more than just "offer." Technically, every coach makes an offer to a recruit.
If you read the article, he is clearly not talking about a scholarship offer. This is a bad look for LSU.
But it's still not explicit. You're inferring it, which I don't know is enough.
Reporter: "Coach, congratulations on winning the SEC. What's next?"
Wade: "Vacating it."
Wade: "Vacating it."
I doubt it. If Sean Miller can keep his job and places like UNC can escape years of violations then I don't see any reason the NCAA will give a crap about what happens in the federal trial.
NCAA knows that if they take down Wade or any other coach then they're also going to have to take down all the coaches of the programs that were able to beat out LSU for a recruit. For instance, FSU is mentioned in the article as beating out LSU for a recruit this year Balsa. This is after it is implied that LSU made a big offer to him. So I would assume from that that FSU made a bigger offer. If you're gonna punish Wade you gotta also look at Hamilton and every other coach that LSU lost a recruit to. I doubt the NCAA wants to start going down that rabbit hole.
I agree with your first paragraph, but not the second. You'd have to assume every player makes his decision based on the highest offer. I don't think that's an assumption the NCAA would be willing to make. I think if there's evidence of this one violation, that they'd punish him without worrying about the players they lost out on, just because its too much of a stretch. But all of this is moot if there's not even enough evidence to punish him on this one recruitment. Which from that article, I don't think there is. Yet.
Was Miller actually found to be guilty? Maybe so. I don't keep up with the stuff at other places that much. UNC also didn't commit any violations. Weird comment there.
As for the rest there is no way they can hammer a program based on information they don't know.
I agree! After other schools got away with academic fraud and shit like that Wade should smile at the NCAA and give them the finger!
NCAA may not make that assumption, but plenty of other people and media will. Which will put pressure on NCAA to look into these other schools as well. I doubt the NCAA wants to risk opening those floodgates.
I also don't think it's a stretch to assume that a player who turned down $$ from one school ended up getting $$ from the school he chose. Look at Bowen. He got $200,000 to go to Lousivlle after he turned down the $100,000 DePaul offered him.
And the FBI denied them of info they were looking for. Not sure they will ever be able to obtain what they really need from the FBI to penalize any team.
naw, they'll be in good company with the other five teams LSU beats in the tourney SmokinSmile
Really:
https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-...-offer-hoops-scandal-middleman-175046487.html
It may end up being like Louisville's 2013 title.
Bert, why you posting the same article that was already posted and started this whole convo?
Like I said, I don't think the NCAA wants to open the floodgates on this one. Louisville 2013 was an isolated school committing violations. What we have here is a situation where you could be talking dozens of schools.
Maybe I want to do this because Kentucky got a three year probation over an alleged $1,000. Dwayne Casey, my friend, got accused of that. He won millions in court, but the NCAA never lifted their fvcking ban on him coaching in college.
The NCAA had better open the flood gates. It is time they started enforcing their rules across the board.
The scandal resulted in Casey's resignation, and Casey was then placed on probation for 5 years by the NCAA.[9] The NCAA later rescinded the penalty after it was shown that Casey wasn't involved in sending the package.[10] Casey also settled outside of court in a defamation suit against Emery Worldwide. The case was originally for $6.9 million.[11]
I took that from wiki. It says the NCAA lifted the ban on him.
Sure they lifted the ban on him after they ruined his career. They lifted it after UK has served the three years probation. Screw those worthless bastards.
You forgot to mention that Casey also won his suit against the LA Times.
The $1,000 never existed and was never shipped. I know for sure because Casey told me. You can't put that many $20 bills between a VHS tape and its cover.
But please don't question me. Question the NCAA and the crooks in Indianapolis.
The near $100,000 paid for jewelry in NY city by Duke's Thomas did not even raise an eyebrow in the hallowed hall of the corrupt NCAA even though the case was in court. The 30 years of academic cheating at UNC never raised an eyebrow in Indianapolis. The crooks are the NCAA, sorry Schooner.
He’s leaving out Eric Manuel committing academic fraud, that also got UK into trouble
Yeah, I read that too. I never had read much about that scandal. Or if I did a long time ago I forgot about most of it. New York Times and Sports Illustrated both had some pretty interesting articles detailing what Kentucky was guilty of. I haven’t found anything about the money not being real though.
They're not the best team money can buy. They're up there, but not at the top. Banner not going anywhere. Just watch how quickly this is all swept under the rug. NCAA wants less to do with this than they wanted to do with the academic fraud at UNC.
Wade will not be at LSU very long after he has to testify in the upcoming trials. He is on tape trying to play players. He is a dead fish in the water and LSU will be vacating this season.
Lets talk about those LSU tigers shall we? That FBI wiretap was brutal on LSU and Wade. dead to rights. talking about a deal that is tilted towards the family more than the handlers etc...
The NCAA has already announced they are starting the investigations into this once the trials are over which means after the april trials. And its pretty much a quick open and shut case on Kansas, UL and LSU... might be for Arizona if they indeed have him on tap (but since we havent heard or seen a transcript, its possible the media members that broke that had a source that lied about it.
The NCAA has already announced they are starting the investigations into this once the trials are over which means after the april trials. And its pretty much a quick open and shut case on Kansas, UL and LSU... might be for Arizona if they indeed have him on tap (but since we havent heard or seen a transcript, its possible the media members that broke that had a source that lied about it.
So how about the other schools that the FBI hasn't revealed yet ? They gonna take down half the nation before it's over. This is just a tip of the iceberg.
Yeah, but this thread is about LSU and your coach is one of 4 or 5 coaches that has been caught.
If any other coaches were caught, we would be talking about them. But I don't think it's right to assume half the nation is cheating.
Making a couple phone calls during a no contact period is cheating, I guess, but it's not on the same level as what's happening with this scandal.
So yeah, I'm sure every coach out there bends the rules to some degree, so you're right, everyone is probably cheating, but pay for play is at a different level.
I'll say this, there are sooooo many people just waiting for Cal to step out of line just for a second. Guys like Forde, Thamel and the NCAA pretty much have their trailers set up right outside his door hoping he slips up one time, so I highly doubt he's involved in any of this garbage.
But hey, LSU has a nice team this year, probably going to win some games in the NCAAT, but if I had to guess, I'd say any banners LSU wins, will need to be mounted with velcro in a place that is easily accessible.
You must be new if you think I'm making it up. You should see those people spring to action at the hint of any wrong doing.
Duke fans don't know what that's like, so I wouldn't expect you to understand.
Did you see the NCAA step in when UK wanted to celebrate Cal's 500th win? You think they would do that to K?
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