If only Marshall hadn’t got hurt.
If only Roy left KU sooner.
That right there probably gets Roy to 5 titles. If only....
And I’m sure there are more.
Bill Self has only been to 2 Final Fours?
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If only Roy left KU sooner.
That right there probably gets Roy to 5 titles. If only....
And I’m sure there are more.
Doubtful. Now if Roy could beat Bill Self, he might have more.
Although no doubt it was a recruiting boost to be able to pitch paper classes.
Well you guys will have play better when tournament time comes. I'm not going to get into how many times Self s**t the bed with stacked squads.
His teams typically aren't nearly as stacked as Roy's teams, since Roy somehow gets everyone to stay an extra 2 years.
Everyone labeled last year a stacked team, but you're not so stacked if you don't have a single threat in your frontcourt.
Next year...he will be stacked. Bring it on, b!tches.
If I were to go missing from the net after a tough loss, it probably would've happened a long time ago. .
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You do have a point.
Who coached Memphis the year we beat them for the championship. I swear that with call with his hands to his face when Dozier fouledout.
http://www.coachesdatabase.com/memphis-tigers-basketball/
Memphis only has 1 final four appearance. It was in 1973. Talk to the ncaa about the game you’re talking about, I have no memory of it.
Don't know. Bill's won the last few, and K beat him several years ago. Can't recall any others at KU.
You listed a lot of impressive numbers here. You failed to list one very important number though.........0 ........as in the number of tines Roy Williams teams have lost in the first round of the NCAA TOURNAMENT. Self, K. Izzo. Knight, Boheim all with numerous occurrences.
Norfolking way are we insecure
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If you think it's insecure to hang Helms banners just wait until you hear what people in Missouri like to hang
I'm just going to open up here, but my wife loves when I do his dance to completion.
Down Pat.
He has 3 now, seems that Bill Self’s team plays better if going against a team evenly matched with KU, he tends to choke and panic against heavy underdogs instead.
It would be a very Bill Self thing to do to beat Duke then Nova only to lose to Loyola in the title game.
I'm half joking. It would fit the narrative at least, but Self really is one of the best in the business.
Which do you think is more likely...they lost to midmajors because their coach panicked, or because they get more amped to play Duke or North Carolina than Northern Iowa?
That doesn't matter. If Self is all that he wouldn't have all those embarrassing losses. Every coach has them and it's his job to have his players ready. You're saying it's ok for Self to lose to the Davidsons and the Bucknells of the world but you throw shade on Roy and the game we played in 2012. It takes coaching to get to back to back title games. It also takes coaching to win 3 titles in 14 years.
I hope that's not supposed to be an example of evenly matched.
The last three meetings they were relatively evenly matched. Same with the 08 championship. Not even close in 12 or 15.
So why does K have a sh*tload of first and second round losses? And to teams like Lehigh? Guess he's not "all that."
Because he gets to the tournament so much?
Meh, it's more about his 5 titles and 1100 wins.
Coaches are not defined by their losses.....well I guess to pessimist they are.
I don't think they're defined ONLY by their losses. With anything, you really have to look at the entire body of work. I think Tony Bennet is an excellent coach, and he has had a lot of regular season and conference tournament success. But until he makes a serious run at a title it will be hard not to think about his most recent loss at least a bit, especially when you add in a few other NCAA tournament failures.
Edit to add: as much as I laughed at some of K's more embarrassing loses, it's hard to argue with what the man has done in his career.
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He’s got 5 titles, #1 in wins. Bottom line is Self is looking up to K and Roy. Next you will probably say Seth Greenberg is in your top 5 of coaches.
Of course he's #1 in wins. He's coached at a top program for 40 years.
And obviously he's been great. Which is kinda the point. You implied that you can't be great if you've lost to inferior teams. Don't move the posts.
Of course he's #1 in wins. He's coached at a top program for 40 years.
And obviously he's been great. Which is kinda the point. You implied that you can't be great if you've lost to inferior teams. Don't move the posts.
I didn’t move them you did, read your previous posts....
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