Not getting in a pissing match over UL.
I actually like & cheer for UL but the facts are the facts.
ACC/Big Ten Challenge
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I actually like & cheer for UL but the facts are the facts.
It happens in recruiting all the time. Everyone is looking for an edge and that was an easy one to take advantage of.
Coaches still use "the platoon" against Calipari and sometimes it still works.
I never realized the platoon was such a bad thing, especially when everyone that played on that team ended up in the NBA.
As much as it makes me sick at my stomach to defend a UNC player, Anthony HAS to be a volume shooter because they have nothing else on offense.
Yeah, he should actually shoot more. If he came down and chucked it every possession they would score more points.
I understand that. UNC isn't very good. But Anthony hasn't separated himself as the cream of the crop of freshmen either. That was the point of my post. Several other PGs I'd rather have at the college level at this point.
Serious question because I'm not as good at math as you Iowa folk but what's the correlation between the B1G winning the ACC/B1G challenge and a B1G team winning the national championship?
The point of the challenge is to find out what the better conference is, not the national champion. The NCAA is for that.
Ah okay thanks for the clarification. They give you a trophy for the "better conference" award? Serious question.
You definitely earned the right to bragg all you want. You definitely performed better in December than we did.
But you were the better conference in December. That's what counts.
Truthfully, yes, the ACC isn't anything special this year. We have 6 teams in the KenPom top 50. The Big Ten has 7 teams in the top 25 for KP.
Generally speaking, I don't think the Challenge is a great determining factor on who the better conference is. B1G won the Challenge in the 2015 & 2016 seasons, for example. Yet Most would agree that the ACC had much more successful seasons in 2015 & 2016. This year, however, it's abundantly clear to me that the ACC ain't doing much in March. Louisville looks legit. Duke/FSU might be decent. UVA/UNC are okay, but I don't see either team winning more than 1 or 2 games in the tournament. We don't have the depth like we normally do - and we have A LOT of average/bad teams.
Generally speaking, I don't think the Challenge is a great determining factor on who the better conference is. B1G won the Challenge in the 2015 & 2016 seasons, for example. Yet Most would agree that the ACC had much more successful seasons in 2015 & 2016. This year, however, it's abundantly clear to me that the ACC ain't doing much in March. Louisville looks legit. Duke/FSU might be decent. UVA/UNC are okay, but I don't see either team winning more than 1 or 2 games in the tournament. We don't have the depth like we normally do - and we have A LOT of average/bad teams.
It's hard to match up the teams they think are equal as well. Penn St should have been playing up.
OSU should have played UL.
Michigan played Duke
MSU played UNC
That seriously may have been the worse challenge ever. Look at the scoring margins in the 14 games - only the Miami/Illinois game was single-digits. And it really only became competitive within the last 6 minutes of the game.
B1G winners:
Purdue +29
Ohio State + 25
Penn State + 22
Maryland + 21
Northwestern + 18
Minnesota + 18
Indiana + 16
Iowa +14
ACC winners:
Georgia Tech + 17
NC State + 15
Louisville + 15
Duke +12
Pittsburgh + 11
Miami +2
Obviously it's an impossible task to evenly match up all the teams. But how Maryland and Penn State were paired with Notre Dame and Wake Forest is a complete head-scratcher.
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We were supposed to get paired with Va Tech, but they requested to sit out because of having a new coach and so we got paired with ND who was supposedly to sit out.
Ahh... So Mike Young was trying to one-up Turgeon, was he?
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Meh. They won't but that doesn't change the fact that Big Ten > ACC......
Oh and you know who else won't win the national championship this year?....
Virginia 
Meh. They won't but that doesn't change the fact that Big Ten > ACC......
Oh and you know who else won't win the national championship this year?....
Virginia
Can't expect to win it every year. Too many good ACC, AAC, Big 12, Big East, and SEC schools out there.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Ya don't wanna include Purdue from the Big Ten in there?......
Did they switch into one of the conferences I listed?
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Do they need to, in order to beat Virginia badly?......
Nope. But they do to win a national championship.
I also didn’t include Pac 12.
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EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Nah, your conference doesn't win national championships.
See Kentucky in the SEC most years. The SEC didn't make Kentucky into a power and Kentucky didn't really help elevate the conference either.
At least not in the way teams like Bama and LSU (and Urban Meyer/Steve Spurrier Florida teams) did in football.
No, we didn't, we tried, but ended up beating them down time after time.
LOL you actually took the time to respond to my obviously sarcastic post.
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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Were you being sarcastic about the Big Ten having no teams that could win the championship this year?.............
They have teams every year that COULD. They just don't LOL
EvilMonkeyInTheCloset
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UVA
Villanova
UNC
Villanova
Duke
UCONN
Vacated
Kentucky
UCONN
Duke
UNC
Kansas
Florida
Florida
UNC
UCONN
Syracuse
Maryland
Duke
And.....
Michigan State
Michigan
Ohio State
Purdue
Maryland
Wisconsin
Indiana
Illinois
Iowa
Penn State
Rutgers
Minnesota
Nebraska
Northwestern
