well i forgot what the thread was about god damnit . I am personally shocked white supremacy groups are still a thing. Sometimes I think the media gives dudes way too much attention for the number of people actually involved.
Which Right Wing or Left Wing Group is the Most Idiotic?
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This is true. Both the nazis and antifa are very small (relatively) extremist groups within their political affilations.
Here guy. I will give you one. If the msm would cover antifa's bullshit, I guess it wouldn't be shocking to you guys that they are disgusting human waste.
http://www.trump-conservative.com/n...ry-store-in-berkley-mistaking-him-for-a-nazi/
"Mistaking him for a nazi" is in the actual title of your "article" (wtf is trump-conservative.com???)
That doesn't exactly jive with your statement that are just randomly selecting targets. They were just dumbasses and misidentified someone.
I know antifa members always cover their faces, but the neo nazi weirdos are usually loud and proud. Just pump those faces onto Facebook and Im guessing that will give them all the trouble they can handle. Every person has a right to be racist...but I don't know many employers who want any of that crap associated with their business.
This is, of course, correct again. Violence isn't going to solve anything, it will just make people double down. Name and shame people doing dumb stuff on either side of the political aisle.
It was the first link from google. That's it. Who gives a damn what site. Look at the fact. A random guy was attacked, I said antifa attacks random people. What about that doesn't jive with my statement?
It matters because credible news sources hold way more weight than some random internet site.
He was targeted because they thought he a nazi, not because he was a random guy walking down the street. They were idiots and wrong, but their motivation was not to attack random people.
@Global Havok , you said you weren't defending them. That's great, we can stop the conversation there. I am also not defending the neo nazis when I say that antifa isn't just all about fighting nazis.
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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Sounds like a plan.
But I will still argue that they are there just to fight nazi's. They are just idiots and do it ineffectively.
anon_0astpxev9h4gk
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Also, one represents...uhh...Nazis? You know, the group led by Adolph Hitler, millions of Jews killed. It’s fascinating that we’re even having this conversation with them. Bu bu but...Antifa! The group that represents “anti-fascism”. Like I said, fascinating.
Okay. Well, there are many many more examples of them fighting people who can in no way be considered nazis than there are of them fighting actual nazis. But that won't matter to you.
How about the lock her up crowd? Let's pick on them now.
Do they really think hilldogg is going to jail?
Yikes. You just compared a bunch of dumbass hillbillies to a tyrant dictatorship that as you said, killed millions of Jews.
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They’re still acting as Nazis, you seem to be defending them heavily though. “Just dumbass hillbillies” they don’t know what they’re doing or saying.
Riiight. Kinda like Antifa....but not really.
It wont matter to me when comparing them to nazis that have murdered someone, correct.
The lock her up people may be delusional, but at least they are not inherently violent.
Edit: A question: Would you rather me punch you, or run you over with my car? Which seems more evil to you?
Some. Most? Probably not, although largely not for the likely reason, that there is not evidence of wrongdoing to put her in prison, but the protected/globalist/elite/protected reason. At least that's been my anecdotal (largely family) experience.
You are the one giving them relevance. I am calling them dumbass hillbillies, because that is what they are. They have no power in this country, certainly not enough to even be mentioned in the same breath as Hitler.They’re still acting as Nazis, you seem to be defending them heavily though. “Just dumbass hillbillies” they don’t know what they’re doing or saying.
And yes, there was a person killed in Charlottesville. That sucks. And a person's life, even if it is only one person, takes precedent over anything else. Neo nazis are disgusting people too. I admit that I can get caught up on one side of an argument, but that does not mean I am defending these losers. I am simply saying that we are calling people nazis today because it vindicates us from our own bad behavior.
And people speaking against them would like to keep it that way. If Germans had spoken up a little earlier...
Edit: For those that I'm sure will read further into this statement than they should. America descending into a state similar to Nazi Germany is EXTREMELY unlikely. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be spoken out against.
But they have to know by now. It had a nice ring to it during the elections, but I figured people knew it wasn't going to happen. We were eating dinner last night at a restaurant and they had cnbc on the tv. They were showing a bunch of Trumpers chanting that and I thought it was an old highlight. Jesus people, we are safe from hilldogg. (Thankfully)
Well, let's just join this fight together!
When they shut down Ben Shapiro’s visit do you think it’s because no they thought Ben might be a Nazi?
(He’s Jewish, btw)
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I didn't even know what you were refering to, but I'm guessing its this: https://www.newsweek.com/ben-shapiro-berkeley-no-violence-time-antifa-665388 ??
Yeah, how dare they non-violently protest. Totally puts them on par with murderers.
I didn’t say I had a problem with them protesting...? I just think Antifa’s agenda goes at least a little bit past just fighting nazi’s.
Yeah, its about facism. Not all fascists are Nazis, all Nazis are fascists though. I'm not informed enough about Shaprio to make a judgment on him.
Violence does solve problems, if there's enough of it. Small amount of violence here and there, no. Huge amount of violence, oh yeah...
True, but only if you plan to eliminate or subjugate your opponent. I'm unwilling to do such things to my fellow Americans.
And IMO that becomes a slippery slope when they are using their own loose definition of facism. Like you said, they are pretty inefficient.
Agreed. Mob justice isn't how America should function.
...and all you can talk about are the horrors of Antifa, and cite things from a site called trump-conservative dot com?!?! That's your solution to the dreaded, scary-bad MSM? Seriously?
Oh, I have a good one. I guess they're sort of right wing, but the Sovereign Citizen movement is amazing. Apparently US citizens are of two flavors: natural citizens (subject only to natural and common law, but not federal law), and Fourteenth Amendment citizens (subject to federal law and taxes). One becomes a "natural citizen" by virtue of a quiet title action (a term of art in property law) whereby a person renounces their US citizenship, but not in any way recognized by any official body. Some other weird beliefs include:
Good video on them starting around 2:20. It's confusing as hell because it's actual nonsense. .
- 13th Amendment is not valid, so only whites have rights.
- 19th Amendment is not valid, so any election in which women voted is not valid.
- The Social Security Act created an account for each citizen and you can draw off that account to pay off debts (scammers hit up gullible "sovereign" citizens).
- Courts that have gold borders on their American flags are admiralty courts.
- I'm butchering it, but something about Fourteenth Amendment citizens being corporate entities by virtue of entering into a contract with the US in exchange for freedom.
- They supposedly cannot be detained while traveling.
Good video on them starting around 2:20. It's confusing as hell because it's actual nonsense. .
I had no idea the extent of the lunacy of sovereign citizens. But I have dealt with people that identify as sovereign citizens. I never noticed a political lean with them. But the ones I have encountered seem to have multiple personalities and are very paranoid by nature.
They're generally classified as far right fringe in that they overlap with, for lack of a better term, militia-types that reject the authority of the federal government. But they're not voting for Republicans, that's for sure. I'd wager that they have extremely high rates of mental health issues.
I love groups like that---they try to come off as educated and they don't realized how GDF dumb they actually are.
