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So, you realize that saying hundreds of studies have linked autism to vaccines is not a true statement, right? You realize RFK has not done the research and has no not used science to back his claims, right?

You have to use science and fact to support healthcare policies. You can’t just go by feelings and call it a day.

Fluoridated water prevents tooth decay. Just so you’re aware.

Here's 232 peer-reviewed papers that link vaccines to autism: https://howdovaccinescauseautism.org/

The gov't-funded LOTUS study (largest study ever on the effects of fluoridation on dental health) found almost no benefit to fluoridated water, and the numbers of missing teeth between the groups were the same.

https://sites.manchester.ac.uk/lotus/

Btw, the FDA requires a poison warning on all fluoride toothpastes sold in the U.S. It's ridiculous to think that drinking fluoridated water is going to prevent tooth decay. It's not ridiculous to think it could cause fluorosis and other health issues.
 
Who knows. But it will be in kids’ math homework, right next to the instructions that read: Do these math problems.. or don’t if your parents don’t want you to because parents know more about education than people who dedicate their life to it.. and also math is gay and Liberal.

Or something like that
I hear Trump is making a national MAGA fight song and every male in school will have to sing it before class. And the females will have to bow to the males while they're singing it. Anyone who refuses to comply or claims to be a different gender than the good lord (Trump) assigns them at their forced birth will be rounded up and sent to the oil fields where they will be forced to drill baby drill. The gays will still be allowed to marry, once they've been publicly shamed, tarred and feathered. Any woman who has sex out of wedlock will be permanently scarred under their left eye the first time. An eye removed each next time and then they will have their vaginas removed and put on display in their hometown's church. Where each resident will be forced to attend services weekly, after that.
 
The only thing in the constitution regarding the separation of church and state is that the government cannot infringe on your first ammendment right to religion. It says nothing about using your religious beliefs to influence policy decisions. This is where the old saying "elections have consequences" comes into play. Though I do agree that policies should be for the better of the country as a whole, not made for your own religious beliefs. Sometimes they're both, sometimes they're not.
For sure, I can agree with that. I think there shouldn't be influence from either entity regarding policy though. JMO.
 
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Here's 232 peer-reviewed papers that link vaccines to autism: https://howdovaccinescauseautism.org/

The gov't-funded LOTUS study (largest study ever on the effects of fluoridation on dental health) found almost no benefit to fluoridated water, and the numbers of missing teeth between the groups were the same.

https://sites.manchester.ac.uk/lotus/

Btw, the FDA requires a poison warning on all fluoride toothpastes sold in the U.S. It's ridiculous to think that drinking fluoridated water is going to prevent tooth decay. It's not ridiculous to think it could cause fluorosis and other health issues.

That first link doesn’t link to what you think it does. That’s not 232 peer-reviewed studies linking vaccines to autism. They also don’t reach the conclusions that the site asserts they do in the ones I looked at that the site promotes the most.

The LOTUS study was retrospective, which limits the usefulness of its conclusions inherently. You like reading studies, so you know this. It did find a statistically significant benefit to fluoridated water, regardless.

A lot of things are poisonous at high levels. The optimal/ recommended/ observed amount of fluoride in drinking water in the US is well below the threshold for fluorosis to be a concern. Fluorosis, for those curious, is a mostly cosmetic condition and not particularly common. There has yet to be any conclusive evidence that fluoride at acceptable levels is neurotoxic. The leading studies pointing to possible neurotoxicity are of Chinese children drinking naturally fluoridated water at levels considerably higher than what is allowed here. Those effects were measured to affect IQ very little. Any effect is worth investigating and they should keep studying it. To say the science points to fluoridated water being unsafe is premature.
 
Will grocery prices go down? Or is this the new standard. Not that the President has any control over that. Just curious what you guys think?
 
Will grocery prices go down? Or is this the new standard. Not that the President has any control over that. Just curious what you guys think?
I imagine they will correct somewhat. But obviously not down to where they were. And we can say that the president doesn't have any control over it. But policies do. The biggest correction will be with earnings and interest rates. Which I am not predicting will be immediately. Whether Trump will wave his magic wond and fix the economy or not, its not sustainable the way it is now. And that's a big reason why the country spoke so clearly on Tuesday. We'll see if we head towards prosperity or hell.
 
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What is the first thing you guys are using your white privilege on? Cheaper food? Cutting lines? No time for crime? Considering all of the above.

Being Jewish I have a whole different level of white privilege that the rest of you common whiteys never get to experience. For instance, on the drive to work today I stopped and bought a bank.
 
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Will grocery prices go down? Or is this the new standard. Not that the President has any control over that. Just curious what you guys think?
Prices will go down once you cut taxes, lower the budget (increase the value of the dollar), cut regulations on farms . Really inflation came from over spening the budget not price gauging.
 
Being Jewish I have a whole different level of white privilege that the rest of you common whiteys never get to experience. For instance, on the drive to work today I stopped and bought a bank.
See what all those years of picking up pennies out of urine filled cracks on city sidewalks got you? Good for you, buddy.
 
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See what all those years of picking up pennies out of urine filled cracks on city sidewalks got you? Good for you, buddy.


funny story, when i used to go visit my friends in Orlando I was the only Jew in the group. We'd be at a bar, like 8 of us, drinking and sure enough someone would throw a nickel on the ground. everyone would stop talking and look at me. I would go fine, and then dive on the floor and pick up the nickel and put it in my pocket.

We all have roles to play.
 
I imagine they will correct somewhat. But obviously not down to where they were. And we can say that the president doesn't have any control over it. But policies do. The biggest correction will be with earnings and interest rates. Which I am not predicting will be immediately. Whether Trump will wave his magic wond and fix the economy or not, its not sustainable the way it is now. And that's a big reason why the country spoke so clearly on Tuesday. We'll see if we head towards prosperity or hell.
Hoping for the best. I just don't see private companies wanting to lower their prices now that they've seen record profits. Maybe i'm wrong. Hopefully I am.
 
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What is the first thing you guys are using your white privilege on? Cheaper food? Cutting lines? No time for crime? Considering all of the above.

I’ve been using it all along. What the hell have you been doing?

It’s pretty disrespectful not to use it
 
According to the USDA ERS, 31% of imported horticulture products including fruit and vegetables come from Mexico.
 
Hoping for the best. I just don't see private companies wanting to lower their prices now that they've seen record profits. Maybe i'm wrong. Hopefully I am.

Well, if you up the number of human fingers that can be included in ground beef, that’ll prolly drop the price.

The joys of deregulation.
 
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@ExitFlagger feel free to reply to my vaccine and fluoride post but I’m bowing out. I can’t do another round of it. Too much life to live and my blood pressure can’t handle it.
 
According to the USDA ERS, 31% of imported horticulture products including fruit and vegetables come from Mexico.
Sweet. When we deport those sumbitches, it will drive the labor costs down and that savings will be passed along to us as consumers.

Damn, that's genius level planning!!
 
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Sweet. When we deport those sumbitches, it will drive the labor costs down and that savings will be passed along to us as consumers.

Damn, that's genius level planning!!
Lol great, shipments will take 10 times as long.
 
Hoping for the best. I just don't see private companies wanting to lower their prices now that they've seen record profits. Maybe i'm wrong. Hopefully I am.
Where are we seeing record profits?

According to the USDA ERS, 31% of imported horticulture products including fruit and vegetables come from Mexico.
Our government actually pays farmers not to farm as part of the environmental policies from years ago that have been increased recently. So we actually spend government money not to grow our own produce and we pay other countries to import their produce. It's a shit policy with bullshit intentions.
 
Where are we seeing record profits?


Our government actually pays farmers not to farm as part of the environmental policies from years ago that have been increased recently. So we actually spend government money not to grow our own produce and we pay other countries to import their produce. It's a shit policy with bullshit intentions.

Not incorrect, but you’re talking about approximately 2% of farmland. If they cut that program to zero, it’s unlikely you’d notice it in grocery stores.

The government also subsidizes farmers not to grow certain crops in order to stabilize prices and help ensure farmers can earn a profit on what they grow. That’s been around for a long time. It’s a balancing act. Maybe Donnie can get the balance right. Lower grocery prices could equate to farmers getting the short end of the stick. Gotta thread that needle.
 
That first link doesn’t link to what you think it does. That’s not 232 peer-reviewed studies linking vaccines to autism. They also don’t reach the conclusions that the site asserts they do in the ones I looked at that the site promotes the most.

The LOTUS study was retrospective, which limits the usefulness of its conclusions inherently. You like reading studies, so you know this. It did find a statistically significant benefit to fluoridated water, regardless.

A lot of things are poisonous at high levels. The optimal/ recommended/ observed amount of fluoride in drinking water in the US is well below the threshold for fluorosis to be a concern. Fluorosis, for those curious, is a mostly cosmetic condition and not particularly common. There has yet to be any conclusive evidence that fluoride at acceptable levels is neurotoxic. The leading studies pointing to possible neurotoxicity are of Chinese children drinking naturally fluoridated water at levels considerably higher than what is allowed here. Those effects were measured to affect IQ very little. Any effect is worth investigating and they should keep studying it. To say the science points to fluoridated water being unsafe is premature.

Of course you're going to dig for a spin, but the bottom line is there's plenty of evidence to support a link between vaccines and autism. And the "benefits" found in the LOTUS study aren't significant at all. Definitely not enough to justify potential health risks.

If there's such a tiny amount included that it isn't harmful, how exactly would drinking it provide significant dental benefits? And do you really think the gov't gives a damn about your teeth? Lol.

Before fluoridation started in the US, the entire dental profession recognized that fluoride was detrimental to dental health. In 1944, the Journal of the American Dental Association reported that using between 1.6 and 4 ppm in water would cause 50% of adults to need false teeth. A study of 400,000 students found that tooth decay increased in over 25% at only 1 ppm. And yet....fluoridation of municipal water systems started anyway the following year, at a minimum of 1 ppm. You should be asking gov't officials for conclusive evidence to support benefits and safety; not the other way around.

England, France, Germany, Sweden, Japan, India, and others rejected fluoride use after special commissions reviewed the evidence. There's a reason for that.
 
Where are we seeing record profits?


Our government actually pays farmers not to farm as part of the environmental policies from years ago that have been increased recently. So we actually spend government money not to grow our own produce and we pay other countries to import their produce. It's a shit policy with bullshit intentions.
I'll use Kroger as an example from this year to last. "Kroger recorded an operating profit of $815m in Q2 FY24, compared to an operating loss of $479m in Q2 FY23."

Kroger’s operating profit increased from $991m in the first half (H1) of FY23 to $2.10bn in H1 FY24.

Another interesting thing is the consolidation of the main grocery retailers that control over 70 percent of the market.


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The number of grocery stores itself has fallen 30 percent in the past 25 years, resulting in more than a third of grocery sales coming from only four retailers. Walmart alone has nearly a quarter of the grocery market. Low competition gives these retailers more market power to raise prices.

So yes, inflation is down, but many people don’t notice because food prices are still high, partly due to several years of price gouging by monopolies."
 
I'll use Kroger as an example from this year to last. "Kroger recorded an operating profit of $815m in Q2 FY24, compared to an operating loss of $479m in Q2 FY23."

Kroger’s operating profit increased from $991m in the first half (H1) of FY23 to $2.10bn in H1 FY24.

Another interesting thing is the consolidation of the main grocery retailers that control over 70 percent of the market.


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The number of grocery stores itself has fallen 30 percent in the past 25 years, resulting in more than a third of grocery sales coming from only four retailers. Walmart alone has nearly a quarter of the grocery market. Low competition gives these retailers more market power to raise prices.

So yes, inflation is down, but many people don’t notice because food prices are still high, partly due to several years of price gouging by monopolies."
I am pretty sure your numbers are before expenses. If not, either way. They operate on a 1.4% profit. That doesn't seem outrageous to me and it certainly doesn't scream price gouging. Which I know you didn't claim, just saying. And they're lying when they say inflation is down. It just increased at a slower rate.

Not being controversial here. Just talking.
 
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I am pretty sure your numbers are before expenses. If not, either way. They operate on a 1.4% profit. That doesn't seem outrageous to me and it certainly doesn't scream price gouging. Which I know you didn't claim, just saying. And they're lying when they say inflation is down. It just increased at a slower rate.

Not being controversial here. Just talking.
No I know, just a friendly convo. But I do hope it eventually swings the other way and we start to see lower costs. It's also embarrassing what the CEO's pay themselves. Criminal.
 
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I am pretty sure your numbers are before expenses. If not, either way. They operate on a 1.4% profit. That doesn't seem outrageous to me and it certainly doesn't scream price gouging. Which I know you didn't claim, just saying. And they're lying when they say inflation is down. It just increased at a slower rate.

Not being controversial here. Just talking.
He is correct. It is operating profit, so before investments, interest, taxes and pension benefits. Frankly, I'd include all those and look at Net earnings. Net Earnings in Q2/24 were 465Mm after losing 179MM in Q2/23. But for reference, that 465MM is 1.4% of revenue.

1.4% doesn't seem like a lot of price gouging, does it?
 
I'll use Kroger as an example from this year to last. "Kroger recorded an operating profit of $815m in Q2 FY24, compared to an operating loss of $479m in Q2 FY23."

Kroger’s operating profit increased from $991m in the first half (H1) of FY23 to $2.10bn in H1 FY24.

Another interesting thing is the consolidation of the main grocery retailers that control over 70 percent of the market.


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The number of grocery stores itself has fallen 30 percent in the past 25 years, resulting in more than a third of grocery sales coming from only four retailers. Walmart alone has nearly a quarter of the grocery market. Low competition gives these retailers more market power to raise prices.

So yes, inflation is down, but many people don’t notice because food prices are still high, partly due to several years of price gouging by monopolies."

Deregulation should help…. Wait…
 
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