This ain't football board, DB!
Laughing
I might change my mind about Arizona but they are in a serious rebuild. ASU/UW was the tossup for me.
This ain't football board, DB!
And every year UNC and Duke fans forget about UVA
How many S16's/E8's, aside from this year's? Pretty sure y'all didn't have an F4 during that span, or UVa's chokings.Shoot, the whole league forgets about FSU. And the Noles have the 3rd best record in the league over the last 12 years.
How many S16's/E8's, aside from this year's? Pretty sure y'all didn't have an F4 during that span, or UVa's chokings.
You do realize you are literally the only person that doesn’t have MSU in their top 5? Like literally every single other person does. Does everyone have Serious Cognitive Dissonance?
Woods should be playing the Nate Britt role the rest of his time at Carolina. 15-17 minutes per game. Nothing more. Too bad Jalek got the boot, he would've surely taken over that 1 spot next year.Big hopes for White. If we have to rely on Woods, we’re fvcked.
If you watched that Duke team last year and thought they were anything but bad defensively I don't know what to tell you. So bad K adopted the zone. The zone! With the athletes Duke recruits they should never be forced to play zone. On ball was especially bad.What are you going on about? Duke was suspect at times on D, but the tired comments about them sucking was quite obviously misguided. That's all I'm getting at. I made no mention about titles.
And I'm still not seeing UNC being on Duke's level next season.
I’m not saying he’s wrong, but like, when was this. In my bracket I had UM in the final four. After the Big Ten tournament, they were my clear best team in the Big Ten. So I just wonder when he said that.He got laughed at for calling Michigan a final 4 team last year. He’s right sometimes.
When you say enough shit, sometimes you’re right. Blind squirrels and broken clocks and all that.He got laughed at for calling Michigan a final 4 team last year. He’s right sometimes.
I’m not saying he’s wrong, but like, when was this. In my bracket I had UM in the final four. After the Big Ten tournament, they were my clear best team in the Big Ten. So I just wonder when he said that.
But this isn’t just like, I don’t agree with you. This is “ I am right and whoever thinks the other way is an idiot” when literally every single other person thinks the other way.
Oh look, mgk is back and already making threads great again. Weird.
WVU is going to take a huge step back next year. Tech won't even be in the top half of the league. They just lost way too much.
If you watched that Duke team last year and thought they were anything but bad defensively I don't know what to tell you. So bad K adopted the zone. The zone! With the athletes Duke recruits they should never be forced to play zone. On ball was especially bad.
That zone got Duke all the way to the Elite 8. Glad our coach doesn't mind making adjustments instead of being stubborn
With that squad it was a major disappointment.
Meh, I know lots of teams who would have dreamed of going to the Elite 8 with one senior and four freshmen. Elite 8 was where most predicted Duke to get to once the tournament field was set. If only we had the easy road and refs per usual....Winking
A lot of teams aren’t Duke. You had a stacked squad and the expectations weren’t Elite 8 or bust. Had you made it to the final 4 then IMO the season would of been viewed as a good season.
Stacked quad yet Virginia, Villanova, Kansas and Michigan State were predicted to win it all. Duke went further than all except Kansas and Villanova. So, meh.
Now, do you consider 2012 UNC a disappointment?
Nope because our starting backcourt was out due to injuries.
All of that talent?
And the starting backcourt on the shelf. Like I said you guys underachieved with no injuries and with more talent. You were suppose roll thru the ACC, also preseason #1 in all the polls and going into the tournament most of the talking heads had you getting to the final 4 or winning it all.
Didn't that 2012 team lose by 30 to FSU and didn't win the ACC?
Which talking heads had Duke going to the Final 4 or winning it all? I'll give you preseason #1, but most talking heads did not have Duke winning it all at the start of the tournament. And Duke was a 2-seed that lost to a 1-seed; 2012 UNC was a 1-seed that lost to a 2-seed. If 2012 UNC wasn't a disappointment then 2018 Duke wasn't a disappointment.
IU will win the BIG next year.For the big ten- obviously depending on who stays:
- Michigan
- Maryland
- Michigan State
- Wisconsin
- Indiana or Purdue
IU will win the BIG next year.
Didn't that 2012 team lose by 30 to FSU and didn't win the ACC?
Which talking heads had Duke going to the Final 4 or winning it all? I'll give you preseason #1, but most talking heads did not have Duke winning it all at the start of the tournament. And Duke was a 2-seed that lost to a 1-seed; 2012 UNC was a 1-seed that lost to a 2-seed. If 2012 UNC wasn't a disappointment then 2018 Duke wasn't a disappointment.
For the Big XII (still fluid)
It looks like it'll be (in no particular order)
Kansas
Best Virginia
Kansas State
Then Texas Tech and either Iowa State or Baylor would be my guess.
TCU and Oklahoma State have some salt too tho.
We never know what to expect from Texas, loads of talent, very little to show..
Early Top 5 Predictions Bolded
In terms of missing the FF, 2012 would have been a disappointment if Marshall wouldn't have gotten hurt during the tournament. To me, it is all about the FF and not the NC in terms of ever thinking a team is a disappointment or not. Winning the title is so tough but I think making the FF is a benchmark used to measure seasons by for really good teams. I think basically everyone had Duke going to the FF at the beginning of the season because of all the talent they had. I am pretty sure quite a few had them going at the start of the tournament as well. I think it is reasonable to expect Duke fans to be disappointed with this season a little since they didn't win either the regular season or ACCT and didn't make the FF. It doesn't mean you didn't have a fun year or anything.
No one had KU winning it. Bottom line Duke had more talent than any other team going in the tournament. Seeds didn’t matter. UNC in 2012 lost Strickland and Marshall so of course we got knocked out early. Duke was at full strength. I’m going to use injuries as the reason why we lost. You guys were at full strength. If you guys had beat KU most wouldn’t of viewed that as a upset. 6 games are very difficult to win and upsets happen and trust me, UNC has choked away their fair share of games with stacked teams but you got to admit not getting to a final 4 was a big letdown.
It's funny to me that most of the posters in here are adding/debating their top 5 teams for their conference for NEXT season. Then we have UNC and Duke fans who are arguing about seasons from years ago...and haven't mentioned the top 5 for the ACC next year at all.
Hell, it's usually the same each year. But based on schedule, I would say:
UNC
UVA
Duke
Va Tech
Clemson
The ACC is going to be stacked next season.
Don't agree with "usually the same each year." Not one team has finished top 5 in each of the previous 5 seasons (Since the major expansion of 2014), and 11 different programs have finished top 5.
2014: UVA, Cuse, Duke, UNC, Pitt
2015: UVA, Duke, Notre Dame, Louisville, UNC
2016: UNC, UVA, Miami, Louisville, Notre Dame
2017: UNC, FSU, Notre Dame, Louisville, Duke
2018: UVA, Duke, Miami, Clemson, NCSU
Don't agree with "usually the same each year." Not one team has finished top 5 in each of the previous 5 seasons (Since the major expansion of 2014), and 11 different programs have finished top 5.
2014: UVA, Cuse, Duke, UNC, Pitt
2015: UVA, Duke, Notre Dame, Louisville, UNC
2016: UNC, UVA, Miami, Louisville, Notre Dame
2017: UNC, FSU, Notre Dame, Louisville, Duke
2018: UVA, Duke, Miami, Clemson, NCSU
Technically UVA tied for 5th with Duke in 2017 at 11-7. But you're right based on ACCT seeding.
Just like UNC tied for 3rd this year but was seeded 6th.
UK
Tennessee
Auburn
Vanderbilt
Mississippi State
LSU close.