Can you imagine a game where every time a player does what Tyty does, creates a foul?
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812 270 2754.....And I ain't scared to give you UK folk my #----after all, I don't own my own business...
Don't blame your ignorance of the rule(s) on me....Anyone who thinks that was a blocking call is just looking to be contrarian. Why am I not surprised at who the main culprit is?
If some of you were more versed on the rules, and their meaning, you wouldnt be in such shock....If this were any game but UK, every single UK fan would agree----especially if the call weere in your favor.Can you imagine a game where every time a player does what Tyty does, creates a foul?
OK, but can a ref call that constantly throughout the game?If some of you were more versed on the rules, and their meaning, you wouldnt be in such shock....If this were any game but UK, every single UK fan would agree----especially if the call weere in your favor.
Learn the god damn rules...
Huh? What you are describing is 100% different than what happened....I feel like I am trying to explain to 3rd graders on why you shouldn't eat glue...To point on what you're saying here, and touch back on Tshiebwe questions.
When Oscar goes up for a layup and his strong drive to the hole catches a dude in the face, or maybe an elbow to the chin, Is that offensive or defensive foul, or maybe play on?
No malice, just going strong to the hole like dude isn't even there.
If guys bounce off him, it's not a foul. Right?
Different scenario. I thought I made that clear. I thought you might remember my Oscar questions from a couple of weeks ago.Huh? What you are describing is 100% different than what happened....I feel like I am trying to explain to 3rd graders on why you shouldn't eat glue...
Sure, they could....But not all contact is the same. When contact creates an advantage, disadvantge, or the scenario in this play, you have to make a call...OK, but can a ref call that constantly throughout the game?
Post play vs perimeter play is different....It just is.Different scenario. I thought I made that clear. I thought you might remember my Oscar questions from a couple of weeks ago.
Now that's settled. Care to answer the question about players bouncing off Oscar even if his elbows comes into contact with face.Post play vs perimeter play is different....It just is.
I'm not sure the context of the qusetion----or why its being asked? Oscar is a physical dude. Big dude. He gets some tick tack calls---he gets away with some shit too----It all evens out.Now that's settled. Care to answer the question about players bouncing off Oscar even if his elbows comes into contact with face.
He's not look at the players and no malice, it's just him "going "strong".
OK nvm.I'm not sure the context of the qusetion----or why its being asked? Oscar is a physical dude. Big dude. He gets some tick tack calls---he gets away with some shit too----It all evens out.
I never questioned the call on Tyty. Pointed out that could be called all game long, and brought up something different with Oscar.Trying to explain a call that goes against UK is useless....Dealing with a fan base that keeps track of their record with officials....That feels most are out to get them....ALong with the NCAA, ESPN and even NASA. Many of times I wish I'd never let it be known I officiated. Ya'll ask for an explanation, I give it....But if its not the one you desire, then the, "well it never gets called, or we alway get this or that, etc, etc...." You, nor any UK fan on here will ever agree, so really no reason to try and explain. Cal has brainwashed you dudes into thinking that the "refs" are out to get UK.....So it is what it is.
The call was the right call----the shove made it look bad---and TyTy's theatrics made it look even worse; You'd thought dude had got caught in an F-2 tornado with how he acted.
TBH, I'm no longer interested in answering questions pertaining to calls. Or at least those involving UK. Feel free to ask about any other call----just leave the UK shit out. Becasue like I said, had this same play happened, and it was me explaining why it was a foul on Vandy, this thread would have ended 3 pages ago...
It can be called all game long,I guess....Again,you gotta determine wha the contact creates....Holding could be called on everyplay in the NFL----but its not. Basketball is a contact sport. Deciding if that contact impacted the play, etc, etc....is a subjective decision at times. Some may feel it does....some may feel it does not.I never questioned the call on Tyty. Pointed out that could be called all game long, and brought up something different with Oscar.
I hope all the UK fans don't get lumped in with me.
Question 1: If you are running with the dribbler, beside him, are you ever in a legal guarding position?
Answer: No
Question # 2: If one foot comes off the floor, wouldn't you no longer be in a legal guarding position?
Answer: Yes, you would be. Once you have maintained/established a legal guarding position, you are allowed to move. Which rewuires you to move/raise your foot/feet. You can move side to side, or backwards, and ,maintain a legal guarding position.
Cylinder rule: You must give the offense(non ball handler/dribbler) room, i.e. a step, to make a basketball move. If you "get into " the offensive player, with contact, OR do not give him room to make a basketball play, and he moves, and there is contact, its a defensive foul, via the cylinder rule..
With the cylinder rule the issue I have is what you said----offense extending arm/forearm to the chest. I don't like that. And IMO, if you feel the cylinder rule hasn't been violated, that should be an offensive foul. TBH, I don't like the rule, but think the intent is needed. Just think the rule needs tweaked.
Hope that helps
Not really....Pippens trajectory didn't change----which is irrelevant. TyTy stepped into his pat, the contact occurred, Pippen pushed off....Thats what happened. TyTy's path caused the contact, and its irrelevant if it was Pippen who ran into Ty.All you have to do is look at the physics of the contact. Pippen's body trajectory never changed other than his head pulling back which was a direct result of him putting effort into the push. TyTy's trajectory changed and followed the path of Pippen's push. I doubt the calling ref actually saw the push off. It looked like Pippen's body may have blocked his view.
If TyTy had actually initiated contact, then Pippen's trajectory would have changed.
@IUfanBorden was defending what could have happened and not what actually happened.
Was there a foul? If not, should have been IMO.
Was there a foul? If not, should have been IMO.
WVU....On which person. I think it was called on the red team.
No foul called on that play.Was there a foul? If not, should have been IMO.
The foul on us came later.On which person. I think it was called on the red team.
Had a play today I have never seen----Ever. Kid tries to split two defenders by using a jump stop,AND.........Literally lands in the lap of one of the defenders, and just hangs there----as if he were laying in his lap to get spanked. The defender eventually holds him, to keep him from falling....But I mean, he(offensive dude) literally, and perfectly landed in his lap. Me and partner just looked at one another(our 3rd guy couldn't see this), and after by 3-4 seconds was like----"WTF do we call"? NOw the offensive players foot did come down and hut the floor, so my partner called a travel. Coach asked me, how is that a travel----I was like dunno----but what else should we have called?Ahh ok. The announcer made it sound like it was called a block.
Idk, I'd say its a foul but not calling it isn't as bad as I calling it on the wrong guy
Can you imagine a game where every time a player does what Tyty does, creates a foul?
Totally agree. These officials need better training.It would be a lot better than seeing flops rewarded with charging calls on every other possession.
The charge call has become a joke.
The "flop warning" is stupid. The players already know it's against the rules and they aren't supposed to do it, so why are you giving them a free pass? Stop with the warnings and start slinging technicals. How often are players actually getting t-ed up for it? It never happens.Totally agree. These officials need better training.
A 180lb guard is not going to make a 220lb forward look like he just got shot out of a cannon.
I can't believe the amount of obvious flops that get rewarded.