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Steph Curry is the best shooter in NBA history

Also - didn't Klay make like 8/10 three pointers in one quarter? Korver has never even approached some of the things he's done. They have to respect other parts of his game which opens up his shooting. Also an aspect of being a shooter.
You can dance, spin, deflect and distort, but shooting is what matters in discussion of best shooters. Klay's defender is worrying about his shooting. Not much more. It's why the cavs often put a better defender on Curry and had Kyrie stay with Klay.

Weird with going off like that and you saying Korver never has that Korver still has a higher overall shooting % than Klay over his career.
 
Korver averages 9 ppg for his career average. There wouldn’t be enough sample size to say he’s an elite shooter. A guy who’s a great shooter can hit 8 or 9 three pointers in any given game. With Korver scoring averages, he’s only attempting or making 2 to 3 a game. That’s not elite and he should never be compared to guys like Thompson.
 
Korver averages 9 ppg for his career average. There wouldn’t be enough sample size to say he’s an elite shooter. A guy who’s a great shooter can hit 8 or 9 three pointers in any given game. With Korver scoring averages, he’s only attempting or making 2 to 3 a game. That’s not elite and he should never be compared to guys like Thompson.
Thank you. This guy is an idiot.

Thinks Klay is only a "spot up shooter" and then tells me I don't know basketball...

He apparently wants to compare shooters in the game of Horse.
 
Korver averages 9 ppg for his career average. There wouldn’t be enough sample size to say he’s an elite shooter. A guy who’s a great shooter can hit 8 or 9 three pointers in any given game. With Korver scoring averages, he’s only attempting or making 2 to 3 a game. That’s not elite and he should never be compared to guys like Thompson.
That's fair, and I don't disagree. Doesn't mean he would not make the same amount with more shots.

No one ever said Korver was the better player and could do more than Klay. was only about shooting.
 
Thank you. This guy is an idiot.

Thinks Klay is only a "spot up shooter" and then tells me I don't know basketball...

He apparently wants to compare shooters in the game of Horse.
easy there, toughguy. No need for a Yosemite Sam-like tirade because someone has a differing opinion from you in a sports forum.

As far as shooting goes, Klay is mostly a spot up shooter. Can he also play D and get to the hoop better than Korver? Sure, but not relevant to this discussion IMO.

Korver also comes off picks better and has a quicker release. Seems like he can also shoot better with a defender right on him.
 
easy there, toughguy. No need for a Yosemite Sam-like tirade because someone has a differing opinion from you in a sports forum.

As far as shooting goes, Klay is mostly a spot up shooter. Can he also play D and get to the hoop better than Korver? Sure, but not relevant to this discussion IMO.

Korver also comes off picks better and has a quicker release. Seems like he can also shoot better with a defender right on him.
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well that's interesting. The only question I asked for which you could have replied no was "can Klay also play D and get to the hoop better than Korver"?

I thought that was a given. But you're entitled to what seems like a flip-flopping answer.
 
well that's interesting. The only question I asked for which you could have replied no was "can Klay also play D and get to the hoop better than Korver"?

I thought that was a given. But you're entitled to what seems like a flip-flopping answer.
We disagree. Nothing else needs to be said. You think shooting entails only being good at the game of horse. I don't.
 
We disagree. Nothing else needs to be said. You think shooting entails only being good at the game of horse. I don't.
we disagree, but you are a bit off as I also think moving, using screens, coming off screens and a quick release matters.

You think creating one's own shot is all that matters, and this is not something anyone thinking clearly would say is an area where Klay excels. Better than Korver? sure.
 
we disagree, but you are a bit off as I also think moving, using screens, coming off screens and a quick release matters.

You think creating one's own shot is all that matters, and this is not something anyone thinking clearly would say is an area where Klay excels. Better than Korver? sure.
You're wrong in what I think, but that's fine. We disagree.
 
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Shaq was more physically dominant than Jordan so was Wilt. Doesn't mean they were better. I actually think that Lebron being this essentially "genetic anomaly" hurts his argument. Lebron has been sold as the greatest thing ever since he was a freshmen in HS. Jordan was nobody until his Sr year of HS and was never the no doubt physical prodigy Lebron was gifted with being.

Yes Lebron is a better passer but it's more of a focal point of his game than it was for Jordan. But Lebron wasn't so significantly better than Jordan at that. People act like Lebron is a passer like Magic when he just isn't to that level. Jordan was a better scorer and a better defender. Yes Lebron can guard PF's and C's better because of his size. But at guarding the perimeter Jordan was a better defender. Plus the 9 time 1st team all defense awards vs only 5 for Lebron says a lot. Also despite the size difference I am not convinced Lebron was as strong as Jordan was physically. Jordan in his prime was also a much quicker player and to me had the greatest first step in NBA history.

As a player Jordan's 7 year run from 86-87 thru 92-93 seasons he was the better player compared to any 7 year stretch from Lebron. The 1 year Jordan was able to essentially play PG like Lebron in 88-89 he was 32.5 PPG , 8RPG , 8 APG , 3 SPG , and shot 54% from the field for a 6'6" 200 lb perimeter guy that wasn't a great long range shooter. Not a 6'8" 250+lb perimeter player. But after baseball Jordan had to adapt his game to help with his longevity. Lebron generally hasn't had to change his game too terribly much because of his natural physicality. Though I think Lebron is more big and athletic than he is strong/powerful. Other guys in the NBA stronger than Lebron now. Honestly have wondered why Lebron has not averaged more rebounds over his career considering his size advantage he typically has over his positional opposition.

I'm not sure how anyone can watch Lebron play and objectively state he's not an extremely gifted passer. Be honest--do you watch NBA games or just see some highlights?

Lebron's court vision is probably his best asset. He's absolutely the kind of passer Magic is. He just hasn't always had the kind of teammates Magic had.

Regarding defense, I'm not sure I would say either one is "better." Lebron is certainly more versatile as a defender. He gives your lineup greater flexibility. But it's hard to call one better than the other in that aspect.
 
I'm not sure how anyone can watch Lebron play and objectively state he's not an extremely gifted passer. Be honest--do you watch NBA games or just see some highlights?

Lebron's court vision is probably his best asset. He's absolutely the kind of passer Magic is. He just hasn't always had the kind of teammates Magic had.

Regarding defense, I'm not sure I would say either one is "better." Lebron is certainly more versatile as a defender. He gives your lineup greater flexibility. But it's hard to call one better than the other in that aspect.
I didn't see nearly the amount of MJ games as I have Lebron, but I could buy MJ was a more willing defender and didn't take plays off like Lebron has done.

Hard for me to believe, though, the guy who is bigger, stronger and just as fast and quick could not play D as well as MJ when he chose to.
 
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I didn't see nearly the amount of MJ games as I have Lebron, but I could buy MJ was a more willing defender and didn't take plays off like Lebron has done.

Hard for me to believe, though, the guy who is bigger, stronger and just as fast and quick could not play D as well as MJ when he chose to.
LeBron is not as fast or as quick as Jordan.
 
I watched Jordan and watch LeBron now. People seem to forget how quick/fast Jordan was.
Not forgetting, but Lebron can move as well. My guess is at similar ages it would be close. Probably agree with Nole, though I'd shorten it to length of court. 94 feet I think Lebron wins, I could see MJ being a little quicker side to side.
 
LeBron is probably stronger and faster in a longer stretch, quickness to MJ. I do think MJ wouldn't be as behind in the strength category as some might think. He was extremely strong back in his day. Athleticism I'll give to MJ.
 
I'm not sure how anyone can watch Lebron play and objectively state he's not an extremely gifted passer. Be honest--do you watch NBA games or just see some highlights?

Lebron's court vision is probably his best asset. He's absolutely the kind of passer Magic is. He just hasn't always had the kind of teammates Magic had.

Regarding defense, I'm not sure I would say either one is "better." Lebron is certainly more versatile as a defender. He gives your lineup greater flexibility. But it's hard to call one better than the other in that aspect.
He is a gifted passer I just don't think he is as good as say Magic Johnson was. Lebron had freaking Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh then Irving and Love. He has had plenty around him the last 7 years. So lets not front like he has been kicking the ball to Larry Hughes or Boobie Gibson for 15 straight years.
 
He is a gifted passer I just don't think he is as good as say Magic Johnson was. Lebron had freaking Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh then Irving and Love. He has had plenty around him the last 7 years. So lets not front like he has been kicking the ball to Larry Hughes or Boobie Gibson for 15 straight years.
I agree he had some very good players, but he also made JR, Delly, Shump, Gibson among others a lot of money.
 
Yea it's either 6-8 from 3 or 0-8.
No doubt. The guy was close to 80% from 3 against Toronto, and cannot make anything in this series. From 10-13 to 0-7. Some will say it's the Celtic defense, but I see him missing a number of open shots, and since he's been here he's been known as a guy who can hit the tough 3s.
 
He is a gifted passer I just don't think he is as good as say Magic Johnson was. Lebron had freaking Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh then Irving and Love. He has had plenty around him the last 7 years. So lets not front like he has been kicking the ball to Larry Hughes or Boobie Gibson for 15 straight years.

No one said for 15 years. In fact I said "hasn't always." As in, unlike now/recently.

People like to romanticize the past. Lebron James is a superbly gifted passer, as was Magic.
 
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No one said for 15 years. In fact I said "hasn't always." As in, unlike now/recently.

People like to romanticize the past. Lebron James is a superbly gifted passer, as was Magic.
As someone who was around for both, I've never understood the need to trash the older guys or the current players by so many without the ability to appreciate both.
 
Big-time spot up shooter, but Kerr can definitely hit the 3s.
 
was I the only one who heard JVG call Korver one of the best shooters of all time last night?
 
we could....you could have hit it while The Warriors did Houston a favor and allowed Klay to try and create his own shot for the win last night.
Bump for this idiot. Klay just went 9-14 from 3pt and 35 pts.

Korver did what this entire post season?
 
Bump for this idiot. Klay just went 9-14 from 3pt and 35 pts.

Korver did what this entire post season?
Bump it all you want.....You continue to prove either your reading comprehension is not up to par or you have memory issues.

No one said Korver was the better all around player. Laminate that and keep it somewhere.
 
Klay does things shooting wise that korvers never done in his career. Multiple times a year. Laminate it.

And you're the one that brings up a bad game by klay, and then get upset that I bring up an elimination game where he doused Houston the entire game, going 9-14 from 3pt land?

Fkn weird.
 
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