He is 6'7" barefoot maybe. But Lebron is every bit of 6'8"-6'9" in shoes. BTW Kevin Love measured at 6'9.5" in shoes at the NBA combine. You really want to know any players actual height and weight coming into the league you can find it on google.
Steph Curry is the best shooter in NBA history
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I got your point. So called experts make dumb predictions too early on these HS prospects at times. I don't get Sloppy's point though. Yes we are all aware that Ben Simmons is nowhere near Lebron statistically , winning , or longevity. But has physical tools and skill sets that compare in a few ways to Lebron. Simmons is gonna have to fix that jump shot or he will always have to be on the court with 4 , 3 point shooters at all times. Either that or start playing more like a 6'10" Rajon Rondo.
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I don't read every post on this board. Didn't know it was a requirement in order to post.
You compared Simmons to Lebron, while insinuating he could get to that level.
I say - no way in hell.
If you are going to interject into an exchange between other posters , it's smart to get a frame of reference on the progression of the discussion. You just seem to like to argue even if there is no point.
I could not care less what you were discussing. Anyone dumb enough to imply Simmons could become Lebron deserves to be corrected. That is my "point".
Dude people have compared them including NBA people. They both have the size , passing , and defensive versatility. Simmons isn't close to as good scoring the ball as Lebron was at the same stage. I personally think Simmons is closer to a Magic Johnson than he is a Lebron. You should sit down and talk with someone about why differing opinions anger you so much? I think it would help you grow as a person.
I agree he's closer to magic. Just purely saying that to compare him with Lebron anything beyond playing style is blasphemous.
Let’s not forget about klay Thompson. The dude can absolutely light it up from 3 with a near perfect release. I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes down as one of the best shooters to ever play the game by the time he’s finished.
I think he already is. Hell, if Steph didn't exist, he'd be the best shooter in today's game and it wouldn't be close.
You have been nominated as the rivals board group therapist. Congratulations your dreams have come true. First task for you is find the source of @SloppyHopkins love of disagreement.
Huh? Clearly the guy is a better player because of his D, but better shooter than Korver? with a 42% career mark from 3, and a high of 44 for a season? Korver is at 43% with a high of 49% (not including a season at 53% with only 2 attempts/game). Korver also has him in FTs at 88-85%
Better? Maybe. Not even close? come on.
Eh. I guess we can debate what constitutes "close." For their careers, though, Klay has averaged 7 more minutes per game and twice as many fga per game. His usage rate is way higher and he faces more defensive focus. I'd sooner leave Korver open from a defensive standpoint, and I would never want him to shoot as frequently from an offensive standpoint.
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Spacegrass: Ben Simmons has a ways to go, but could become Lebron.
Me: not even close
Spacegrass: you love disagreement
Korver is catch and shoot only. He could dream of being able to get his own shot like Klay can. If Klay had LeBron driving it and kicking it out to him it wouldn't be fair.
do you watch the Cavs? There is someone on Korver at all times. One of the few to get wide open 3s.
You get Klay is a bigtime catch and shoot guy, right? And the question is best shooters. Catching and shooting is shooting. All around game? Klay's better because of defense, but that's not the question.
Did Korver knock you out in an alley for the angst you have towards him?
Yeah, I've seen them. I'm not saying he gets ignored. You might put your best wing on Klay, though, while Korver might draw a pretty average defender with good length.
Huh?
Korver is a role player who is out of his prime, Klay Thompson is a top 15 player in the prime of his career. Korver of 10 years ago and I'd probably take him. Right now, I'll go KT.
Korver sees wide open 3s a lot less than most on the team. Most of his 3s are with a guy right near him.
You might put your best wing on Klay. You also might not. Depends if he can guard Curry or Durant.
I think you're kind of splitting hairs here, too, btw. "Not even close" is probably hyperbole, but there's a reason Korver slips everyone's mind. He's a career 9.9 ppg player. He's had one season ever where he averaged more ppg than Klay's lowest season average.
Great....so would I. But Korver's as good or a better shooter. I think you are having a tough time grasping that's all this is about.
I'd say both of them are lucky to be where they are, as they don't demand as much attention as they might without so many other options on their teams.
Not really, I just think given the same usage rate Klay would have better numbers. I'd rather leave Korver open if I had to leave one.
He slips everyone's mind because they forget the subject is just shooting, and the idea Klay can play defense is irrelevant. People also probably have some preconceived notion Korver is slow and easy to guard, but few players move around as much as he does. He almost never stands still. The guy's in better shape than most 25-year-olds.
It's a fair opinion, and one I wouldn't really question.....only the idea it's obvious or he's much better I disagree with. Never mind his FG, 3 pt, eFG and FT% are all higher.
Might it change with a higher usage rate? Maybe....but maybe not.
Its not a big difference, its close. I was just being loud lol
What’s all this talk about Korver? He’s always been a reserve role player and that’s it. You can’t compare Korver to the top shooter in the game.
You can when the discussion is shooting and he's one of the best in the game as shown in the numbers. You get this is only about shooting, right?
Part of shooting is being able to not only spot up but also create your own shot. You get that is included in grading a shooter, right? This isn't horse.
actually, no, it really doesn't. Lebron is much better at creating his own shot than Thompson, right? Who's the better shooter?
And Korver is as good as anyone at running around and getting open. doubt many run as much as he does on offense when in the game without the ball.....and has as quick a release as anyone as well.
Korvers a great spot up shooter. That's it. Yes, it does matter.
If you only want to talk about set shooting and not shooting while making a move, then sure you have an argument.
I'm thinking you don't watch games. Who do you know better than him coming off a pick and getting a ball off quicker with a guy in his face?
You get this is Thompson's game for the most part, right?
I'd be willing to bet a lot of money I watch more basketball both in person and on TV than you. Either way, Thompson is so much more dynamic than Korver don't even go there.
Coming off a screen and creating your own shot are much different.
Ok, but shooting is shooting.
I noticed you avoided this question. Let's try again.....Hopefully since you say you watch a lot of NBA you know Lebron is far better at creating his own shot than Klay. who's the better shooter between the 2? Is it close?
Lebrons better at creating his own shot. That doesn't mean he shoots well. Didn't know I had to answer rhetorical questions. Jesus you're dense.
We're just gonna have to disagree here. You love korver. I like korver. Klay and Steph are much better shooters overall with creating your own shot considered.
Also - didn't Klay make like 8/10 three pointers in one quarter? Korver has never even approached some of the things he's done. They have to respect other parts of his game which opens up his shooting. Also an aspect of being a shooter.
I'm using your "logic" here. You seem to think a guy who can create his own shot must make him a better shooter than the guy who doesn't.
If you truly watch basketball you'd know Korver runs as much as anyone on offense and not sure anyone comes off a screen with a quicker release than Korver.
Steph is definitely better IF creating one's own shot mattered when it comes to shooting. But shooting is shooting, and most can see Korver is as good or better than most.
Never mind I never even said he's the best toughguy. I said he should be in the discussion. And never mind Klay is mostly a spot up shooter.
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