umm--there is no war on earth I'd trust them to be able to win. Unless they try to annoy the enemy to death.
That’s what they said before WWII probably.
umm--there is no war on earth I'd trust them to be able to win. Unless they try to annoy the enemy to death.
Even I was an idiot in that age range. I know, it's hard to believe.
That’s what they said before WWII probably.
It's Brooky...
You beat me to it. Lol
Some,maybe even many---thousands, lost A LOT. That total of $5,400 or so we got, was a drop in the bucket to what we lost(over $30,000)..I make $5.400 in three weekends----and thats not including HS baseball. Nor the summer gigs I lost. Now,we are fine. Survived it. But I am sure there are others that lost more than I did. $4000 is great---but it doesn't go far when you are 2/3 months behind in bills.Why did we remove restrictions from unemployment, give extra federal unemployment, give people almost $4,000 a person in stimulus money, give food stamps to almost anyone who applied AND put a moratorium on evictions? Why are we still wanting the moratorium? Seems like we put people in good position to still be able to pay their bills while also giving them incentives not to pay their bills.
Anti-fascists are defined by what they don’t like. My dad doesn’t like the New England Patriots. My FIL doesn’t like the New England Patriots. But that doesn’t mean they both like the same team.
Borden. You focused on one thing that is the smallest of the other things. Please reread my post, evaluate every aspect of my point and re-evaluate your assessment.Some,maybe even many---thousands, lost A LOT. That total of $5,400 or so we got, was a drop in the bucket to what we lost(over $30,000)..I make $5.400 in three weekends----and thats not including HS baseball. Nor the summer gigs I lost. Now,we are fine. Survived it. But I am sure there are others that lost more than I did. $4000 is great---but it doesn't go far when you are 2/3 months behind in bills.
Seems like some of you feel $4,000 is a lot of money?
No reason to...Your entire post was predicated on finances----stimulus, unemployment, food stamps, evicitons, etc, etc.... I highlighted the $4,000, because you presented that total as being of some great value.Borden. You focused on one thing that is the smallest of the other things. Please reread my post, evaluate every aspect of my point and re-evaluate your assessment.
Uh.. yeah.No reason to...Your entire post was predicated on finances----
No. I didn't. I presented that total as being in addition to the already sufficient financial protection programs.I highlighted the $4,000, because you presented that total as being of some great value.
Maybe I am misunderstanding you....? I mean to you, what is sufficient? What good is $4, 000, if you owe $5.000? For some, that stimulus money wasn't needed....For some is was enough....For some, it wasn't(enough). So why lump everyone together? Ya know the old saying--"We are in the same boat"? Well,not true. We all might have been in the same storm(COVID),but not all of us were in the same boat. In other words, the financial impact COVID had, impacted people differently than others. So its quite asinine to lump everyone together. Thats why I pointed out the $4000. I understand you were giving that number as an addition to other services given---But that number isn't of equal value to everyone.Uh.. yeah.
No. I didn't. I presented that total as being in addition to the already sufficient financial protection programs.
The number of tenants not supplemented for their loss of income does not outweigh the number of property owners getting screwed by leaches. You are failing to separate your own experience from the majority. I am not even arguing about the subsidies, that's another topic. I am arguing against extending the rent moratorium.Maybe I am misunderstanding you....? I mean to you, what is sufficient? What good is $4, 000, if you owe $5.000? For some, that stimulus money wasn't needed....For some is was enough....For some, it wasn't(enough). So why lump everyone together? Ya know the old saying--"We are in the same boat"? Well,not true. We all might have been in the same storm(COVID),but not all of us were in the same boat. In other words, the financial impact COVID had, impacted people differently than others. So its quite asinine to lump everyone together. Thats why I pointed out the $4000. I understand you were giving that number as an addition to other services given---But that number isn't of equal value to everyone.
Its not just MY experience. I am sure others---many of them---had it much worse than I did. I was fortunate. Didn't lose my job...nor did my wife. I also had a boss that helped us. And family/friends. Not everyone had that luxury. People that were living pay check to pay check, barely making ends meet, are the ones who really suffered. Now they lose their jobs, income, etc, etc....for months upon months---fall thousands behind in not only rent, but utilities, car payments, insurance, etc, etc....All the while, they get a few thousand dollars 4/5 months in between those payments----And you think that suddenly, those people should be just fine?The number of tenants not supplemented for their loss of income does not outweigh the number of property owners getting screwed by leaches. You are failing to separate your own experience from the majority. I am not even arguing about the subsidies, that's another topic. I am arguing against extending the rent moratorium.
Okay Borden. In most cases. People were given state unemployment. Which gives you 80% of your income or a capped amount in most states. This is without any requirements to qualify. On top of that the federal government added $600, now $300 to the state unemployment, which more than covered loss wages. There was also rent and utility bill freezes. There was also at least a 15% increase in food stamp allowance and a major change in who qualified. Which was almost anyone who applied. All of these supplements should have been sufficient enough to be able to end the rent moratorium today. And that's not even talking about the fact that there are millions of jobs available right now. You're hung up on the smallest part of my point.Its not just MY experience. I am sure others---many of them---had it much worse than I did. I was fortunate. Didn't lose my job...nor did my wife. I also had a boss that helped us. And family/friends. Not everyone had that luxury. People that were living pay check to pay check, barely making ends meet, are the ones who really suffered. Now they lose their jobs, income, etc, etc....for months upon months---fall thousands behind in not only rent, but utilities, car payments, insurance, etc, etc....All the while, they get a few thousand dollars 4/5 months in between those payments----And you think that suddenly, those people should be just fine?
I just don't agree with this.