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Place to put my Nonsense Thread.

My initial post is employment opportunity are higher than it's been since I can remember.

....and it was a lead in to the WSJ article. ;)
Well duh, libs would rather sit home and suck the govt teet rather than getting a job, which is why there are so many employment opportunities right now. ;)
 
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6 cases in court today. 5 didn't show. Now they have FTAs and the DA wants us to violate all of them. SMH. Idiots.
 
Per the Projectias leaked footage of CNN saying "climate change was the next agenda."
  • Chester: “I think there's a COVID fatigue. So, like whenever a new story comes up, they're [CNN’s] going to latch onto it. They've already announced in our office that once the public is -- will be open to it -- we're going to start focusing mainly on climate.”

"Chester went on to say that COVID-19 media coverage should be coming to an end in the near future. He added that CNN is already preparing its shift in coverage to push and promote climate change fear.

“I think there's a COVID fatigue. So, like whenever a new story comes up, they're [CNN’s] going to latch onto it. They've already announced in our office that once the public is -- will be open to it -- we're going to start focusing mainly on climate,” Chester said.

Chester: It's going to be our [CNN’s] focus. Like our focus was to get Trump out of office, right? Without saying it, that's what it was, right? So, our next thing is going to be climate change awareness.

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Some say MSM doesn't have an agenda.

..and CNN. I have a steel trap.

CNN and MSNBC have the same combined viewership as Fox News. They present the Left side, Fox presents the Right side.

I don’t think that’s surprising to anybody. People seek the narratives that fit their pre-existing views. It’s entertainment television.
 
CNN and MSNBC have the same combined viewership as Fox News. They present the Left side, Fox presents the Right side.

I don’t think that’s surprising to anybody. People seek the narratives that fit their pre-existing views. It’s entertainment television.
I get that, but dude being caught as saying, this "will be our agenda" seems a bit off to me.
 
Now months later, we're seeing it in action.

"So, like whenever a new story comes up, they're [CNN’s] going to latch onto it. They've already announced in our office that once the public is -- will be open to it -- we're going to start focusing mainly on climate,”"

aka pushing an agenda.
 
I get that, but dude being caught as saying, this "will be our agenda" seems a bit off to me.

Those are his words. Agenda, itself, isn’t a dirty word. Businesses have agendas. Fox News has agendas. MSNBC has agendas. Coca-Cola has agendas. I have an agenda of stuff to do this week.
 
Those are his words. Agenda, itself, isn’t a dirty word. Businesses have agendas. Fox News has agendas. MSNBC has agendas. Coca-Cola has agendas. I have an agenda of stuff to do this week.
Should MSM have a narrative on news, and a game plan months in advance?
 
I have had people tell me with a straight face that CNN is not left biased. Its honestly scary.

I have people tell me the MSM is Left biased when close to half of what we all consider the MSM is comprised of Fox News.

There are always going to be dopes out there.
 
Should MSM have a narrative on news and a game plan months in advance?

Again, we’re going by one guy’s words who wasn’t in charge of programming. Aside from that, I doubt news organizations fly by the seat of their pants. They’re going to plan ahead. COVID was the big story, rightfully. Now that the pandemic is nearing an end, they ha e to fill up airtime. They like the Left and a big policy point of the Left is environmentalism. It stands to reason that they’d focus on bringing in experts and politicians to discuss climate change.
 
I am pretty sure there was something similar after the Russia hoax was fading. Somebody with cnn was caught saying that they were going to move on to the Trump is racist narrative. Something like that.
 
Again, we’re going by one guy’s words who wasn’t in charge of programming. Aside from that, I doubt news organizations fly by the seat of their pants. They’re going to plan ahead. COVID was the big story, rightfully. Now that the pandemic is nearing an end, they ha e to fill up airtime. They like the Left and a big policy point of the Left is environmentalism. It stands to reason that they’d focus on bringing in experts and politicians to discuss climate change.

I like you, but I feel you're missing the point.

What he said was going to happen, is happening. Also, pushing an agenda isn't filling up airtime.

It's news.

You brought up Coke. Coke markets.

Should news plan months ahead with their marketing with agendas?

Any news outlet?
 
...but "others we hate do it too, so we want to be like those we hate".

Seriously though. This is media manipulation playing out in front of our eyes.

I’d have more of an issue if they were coming up with false narratives. Most people who watch the major news networks are aware which way they lean politically, so they know (or should know) they’re getting one side of the argument more so than the other.

CNN didn’t invent climate change. Based on this, it just seems that that’s what they’re going to focus on next, unless/until some other large story comes about.
 
I’d have more of an issue if they were coming up with false narratives. Most people who watch the major news networks are aware which way they lean politically, so they know (or should know) they’re getting one side of the argument more so than the other.

CNN didn’t invent climate change. Based on this, it just seems that that’s what they’re going to focus on next, unless/until some other large story comes about.
OK fair enough, but their expert said "we don't know", and then talks like she knows. They inserted the narrative.

It's exactly what I quoted twice. Find a story and push the agenda.
 
I like you, but I feel you're missing the point.

What he said was going to happen, is happening. Also, pushing an agenda isn't filling up airtime.

It's news.

You brought up Coke. Coke markets.

Should news plan months ahead with their marketing with agendas?

Any news outlet?

Yes, news networks need to plan ahead with what they are going to focus on. It takes time and effort to book guests and allocate airtime. Current events can only fill up so much airtime and you can’t be at the mercy of ‘oh did something big happen last night? No? Damn, guess we’ll show pictures of cats today.’
 
I like you, but I feel you're missing the point.

What he said was going to happen, is happening. Also, pushing an agenda isn't filling up airtime.

It's news.

You brought up Coke. Coke markets.

Should news plan ahead with their marketing with agendas?

Any news outlet?
The problem is there used to be a clear difference in opinion based news shows and reporting the news. Now everything is slanted. Obviously one network is going to present the news in a different manner/tone than the other. But it is so far right or left now that there is no coming back to the middle.
 
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The problem is there used to be a clear difference in opinion based news shows and reporting the news. Now everything is slanted. Obviously one network is going to present the news in a different manner/tone than the other. But it is so far right or left now that there is no coming back to the middle.
I guess I'm missing it.

Dude said, we're going to start turning everything into climate now.

I'm sure there won't be other stories like this where CNN pushes stuff toward climate change.
 
OK fair enough, but their expert said "we don't know", and then talks like she knows. They inserted the narrative.

It's exactly what I quoted twice. Find a story and push the agenda.

I might’ve missed something. What expert said she doesn’t know about what? The silly ‘climate change might’ve caused the Florida building collapse’ headline? I don’t think anybody is taking that too seriously.
 
I have people tell me the MSM is Left biased when close to half of what we all consider the MSM is comprised of Fox News.

There are always going to be dopes out there.


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Right. It's totally 50-50. That's a 4 to 1 ratio. And, oh look, a sample from 5 years ago saw that the overwhelming majority of donations went to Hillary....


CPI identified about 430 individuals working in journalism who contributed to either candidate between January 2015 and August 2016. Of the $396,000 they contributed, 96 percent ($382,000) went to Clinton, and 4 percent (about $14,000) went to Trump.
 
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The problem is there used to be a clear difference in opinion based news shows and reporting the news. Now everything is slanted. Obviously one network is going to present the news in a different manner/tone than the other. But it is so far right or left now that there is no coming back to the middle.

This. And the internet has actually made it worse. Too difficult to tell which sources are legit and fair. Too easy to find biased info and then only get fed that info because of search algorithms.
 
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Right. It's totally 50-50. That's a 4 to 1 ratio. And, oh look, a sample from 5 years ago saw that the overwhelming majority of donations went to Hillary....


CPI identified about 430 individuals working in journalism who contributed to either candidate between January 2015 and August 2016. Of the $396,000 they contributed, 96 percent ($382,000) went to Clinton, and 4 percent (about $14,000) went to Trump.

One thing you statistically would not expect is for Dem and Republican Party affiliation to be near equal or constant over time. Note the higher percentage of Independents.
 
One thing you statistically would not expect is for Dem and Republican Party affiliation to be near equal or constant over time. Note the higher percentage of Independents.

It will never be anywhere near equal with the way journalism is run at colleges. So yes, there is a liberal bias in the media.
 
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It will never be anywhere near equal with the way journalism is run at colleges. So yes, there is a liberal bias in the media.

More Liberal journalists ≠ Liberal bias in media. MSNBC and CNN, for example, probably staff more writers than Fox News. Since you can’t watch two at the same time and we know those two reach about the same number of eyeballs combined as Fox News does, the higher number of liberal journalists doesn’t result in a more liberal cable news environment.

Likewise, the NYT and WaPo probably have the largest staffs of the online/print news outlets (obviously, cable news spills over online, too). But print newspapers are dying or already dead. They’re actually competing in the online space, where you don’t have to look far or hard to find Right wing websites that are well-funded, and well-advertised, while perhaps employing fewer writers. Since people seek out the news sources they want, the argument that internet news sources are more Liberally biased is a dubious one. It’s a more or less equal playing field.

And then there’s the matter of jobs that actually get to dictate what news is covered and how. Local news networks tend to be politically agnostic because they know they can’t afford to alienate a subset of viewers. Local news broadcasts are much more matter-of-fact than other news broadcasts. Very little opinion airtime. Anchors count as journalists, but they’re told what to say rather than deciding what they say. So they could be Liberal but it doesn’t matter because they don’t make programming choices and don’t get opinion pieces. Same with field reporters. They count as journalists but they’re just going to car accidents, or protests, or the local farmers market and reporting on the events in front of them. There’s very little leeway to allow political opinion in.
 
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We should also let go of the ‘liberal indoctrination at universities’ myth.

Or not. Whatevs. Do you.
 
More Liberal journalists ≠ Liberal bias in media. MSNBC and CNN, for example, probably staff more writers than Fox News. Since you can’t watch two at the same time and we know those two reach about the same number of eyeballs combined as Fox News does, the higher number of liberal journalists doesn’t result in a more liberal cable news environment.

Likewise, the NYT and WaPo probably have the largest staffs of the online/print news outlets (obviously, cable news spills over online, too). But print newspapers are dying or already dead. They’re actually competing in the online space, where you don’t have to look far or hard to find Right wing websites that are well-funded, and well-advertised, while perhaps employing fewer writers. Since people seek out the news sources they want, the argument that internet news sources are more Liberally biased is a dubious one. It’s a more or less equal playing field.

And then there’s the matter of jobs that actually get to dictate what news is covered and how. Local news networks tend to be politically agnostic because they know they can’t afford to alienate a subset of viewers. Local news broadcasts are much more matter-of-fact than other news broadcasts. Very little opinion airtime. Anchors count as journalists, but they’re told what to say rather than deciding what they say. So they could be Liberal but it doesn’t matter because they don’t make programming choices and don’t get opinion pieces. Same with field reporters. They count as journalists but they’re just going to car accidents, or protests, or the local farmers market and reporting on the events in front of them. There’s very little leeway to allow political opinion in.

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Oh, look. 7 of the top 8 media outlets have a huge liberal bias. Shocking. Truly shocking. And ABC, NBC, and CBS are anything but neutral reporters on political affairs.

FTR, there are twice as many employees at Fox News than at MSNBC. Hard to pinpoint CNN exactly since they have operations in various places around the globe.

 
We should also let go of the ‘liberal indoctrination at universities’ myth.

Or not. Whatevs. Do you.
I wouldn't say its a myth at all, but I can see you not thinking it could be a real problem. I would hope the real difference makers of tomorrow weren't weak enough to be molded by college professors politics.
 
We should also let go of the ‘liberal indoctrination at universities’ myth.

Or not. Whatevs. Do you.

The biases were fairly modest just ten years ago, at least in the business and STEM class. Hardly noticeable, unless your focus was in the liberal arts. Campus activism has accelerated significantly in the past 7-8 years, with the rise of critical theories and BLM. I'm seeing it fairly common now, even among STEM instructors.
 
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