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Place to put my Nonsense Thread.

There were many incidents of serious effects linked to those vaccines, but there's no point in getting into it again.

There's a reason that the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program exists and a reason why the courts have awarded upwards of 5 billion dollars. I'm sure you'll claim that none of those involved serious injuries though.

Here's what it comes down to. You trust the Covid vaccines because

"Tens of thousands of people tested over about a year is enough for the various worldwide health organizations to clear it and enough for me."

Problem is, those tests tell us nothing about potential longterm effects. Aside from that, there WERE complications in test groups.

Also, some of those trusted experts of yours like Fauci have (as expected) been outed as corrupt, lying frauds.

Fauci hasn’t been exposed as a corrupt lying fraud, though. For instance any sane and reasonable reading of his emails wouldn’t approach that conclusion.

Anyway, the experts I’m talking about are the researchers and scientists who work in the field and have been educated and trained specifically for this purpose. They inform the decisions made by policy makers and leaders.

Sure, we don’t know the long term effects. What we do know is that the virus left unchecked would kill millions upon millions of healthy people worldwide. The longer we go without a vaccine, the more people it would kill and the harder it would be to contain and eventually eradicate. We can’t wait 5 years to ensure a highly likely safe vaccine is 1,000,000% safe.
 
Fauci hasn’t been exposed as a corrupt lying fraud, though. For instance any sane and reasonable reading of his emails wouldn’t approach that conclusion.

Anyway, the experts I’m talking about are the researchers and scientists who work in the field and have been educated and trained specifically for this purpose. They inform the decisions made by policy makers and leaders.

Sure, we don’t know the long term effects. What we do know is that the virus left unchecked would kill millions upon millions of healthy people worldwide. The longer we go without a vaccine, the more people it would kill and the harder it would be to contain and eventually eradicate. We can’t wait 5 years to ensure a highly likely safe vaccine is 1,000,000% safe.
Yes, he's a confirmed liar. He lied under oath during questioning from Rand Paul. He denied that Ralph Baric had conducted gain of function research, but his emails confirm that he knew he had.

Just one of hundreds of lies and contradictions that have come out of his mouth over the last year and a half.
 
"We don't know the long term effects, but lets take it anyways"

Smarter than “Hey, every other vaccine has been safe. Let’s assume this one is different, though, and wait 10 years to test if it causes AIDS-Cancer-Herpes. Who cares if millions die while we make extra extra sure?”
 
I think enough people are being vaccinated that we will reach herd immunity before "millions die" without having to worry about the people who don't trust the vaccine. If you feel you need to get the shot, get the shot.

Remember when there were a bunch of pussy libs saying they weren't going to get the shot until later because they didn't want the "Trump vaccine"? Now these same lunatics are whining about people who don't want to take it for logical reasons. As if this isn't the "Trump vaccine".
 
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There is a woman in our office that has had covid, been fully vaccinated and wears two masks all the time and still gets tested if she is around someone who has it. That's the kind of brain damage liberalism causes. FoLlOw tHe ScIeNcE.
 
I think enough people are being vaccinated that we will reach herd immunity before "millions die" without having to worry about the people who don't trust the vaccine. If you feel you need to get the shot, get the shot.

Remember when there were a bunch of pussy libs saying they weren't going to get the shot until later because they didn't want the "Trump vaccine"? Now these same lunatics are whining about people who don't want to take it for logical reasons. As if this isn't the "Trump vaccine".
Im fully on board with get it or don't....just STFU about it. If you're a fatty McButterpants....Id say you better get it.
 
^^ that's actually not the #1 comorbidity. Being over 80 with lots of pre-existing illnesses is the #1 comorbidity. But I think I saw where 2/3 of the hospitalizations under 65 were obese and 3/4 of the deaths under 65.
 
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^^ that's actually not the #1 comorbidity. Being over 80 with lots of pre-existing illnesses is the #1 comorbidity. But I think I saw where 2/3 of the hospitalizations under 65 were obese and 3/4 of the deaths under 65.
(94%) of the deaths and hospitalizations had co-morbidities associated with obesity. Thats a crazy stat
 
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I think enough people are being vaccinated that we will reach herd immunity before "millions die" without having to worry about the people who don't trust the vaccine. If you feel you need to get the shot, get the shot.

Remember when there were a bunch of pussy libs saying they weren't going to get the shot until later because they didn't want the "Trump vaccine"? Now these same lunatics are whining about people who don't want to take it for logical reasons. As if this isn't the "Trump vaccine".

Libs saying they didn’t want the “Trump vaccine” is probably not a real thing that happened. What Libs do you hang out with, bro? Or is that just something you saw on the Twitters?

Anyway, we weren’t debating people choosing to get the vaccine. We were debating the merit of the ‘well it doesn’t seem safe because Nancy on Facebook said so’ argument for not getting the vaccine.

I can respect people not getting it because they don’t feel like getting it. I don’t agree with it, but it’s a free country (thank you, Biden). I can’t respect spreading misinformation about the safety of the vaccine.
 
Libs saying they didn’t want the “Trump vaccine” is probably not a real thing that happened. What Libs do you hang out with, bro? Or is that just something you saw on the Twitters?
Dude. Back in political season heels up Harris said she would not trust Trump's vaccine. China Joe said he wouldn't rush the vaccine out and was skeptical of whether or not he would take it. It's a real thing that happened. There are hundreds of other irrelevant examples of idiots saying that, but those are the president and vice president's words. How easily you tend to forget.
 
Dude. Back in political season heels up Harris said she would not trust Trump's vaccine. China Joe said he wouldn't rush the vaccine out and was skeptical of whether or not he would take it. It's a real thing that happened. There are hundreds of other irrelevant examples of idiots saying that, but those are the president and vice president's words. How easily you tend to forget.

I don’t think it’s something I forgot; it’s something I didn’t hear in the first place, I guess.

Looking at some articles from the Fall, the message from Kamala and Biden was that they’d back a vaccine once it was endorsed by the scientific community. All three vaccines have since been endorsed by the scientific community and relevant health officials, political and apolitical.
 
It was either in an interview or her debate. She straight up said if Trump tells you to take it, don't. Biden said he would not take it before the election even if it were the cdc's recommendation. Like I said, there are tons of other people between TDS networks and talk shows and stupid people like that. It's not really arguable, except for with brooke. It was just a statement of stupidity. But no worries, now that it miraculously became Biden's vaccine, the libs are getting it.
 
Cuomo went further, suggesting he mistrusted not just President Donald Trump, but also the Food and Drug Administration under Trump. Asked about his confidence in the FDA, Cuomo indicated he didn’t have much.

“I’m not that confident,” Cuomo said, adding: “You’re going to say to the American people now, ‘Here’s a vaccine, it was new, it was done quickly, but trust this federal administration and their health administration that it’s safe? And we’re not 100 percent sure of the consequences.’ I think it’s going to be a very skeptical American public about taking the vaccine, and they should be.”


 
Cuomo went further, suggesting he mistrusted not just President Donald Trump, but also the Food and Drug Administration under Trump. Asked about his confidence in the FDA, Cuomo indicated he didn’t have much.

“I’m not that confident,” Cuomo said, adding: “You’re going to say to the American people now, ‘Here’s a vaccine, it was new, it was done quickly, but trust this federal administration and their health administration that it’s safe? And we’re not 100 percent sure of the consequences.’ I think it’s going to be a very skeptical American public about taking the vaccine, and they should be.”


How is that guy still governor? New York is turning into a shithole.
 
Most likely

Edit: btw, that number was the number of blood clot cases. The number of blood clot deaths was about 3 as of a few weeks ago.

Having a blood clot makes you more likely to have one in the future, btw, even if those who do get one now don’t die from it.

Also, there are other complications (than dying) from a blood clot that suck.
 
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How is that guy still governor? New York is turning into a shithole.

It’s nice, from my perspective. The taxes are typically outweighed by higher salaries. Winter is a drag, but the other 3 seasons are nice. Low crime. Jobs are easy to come by. Good education system.

Doesn’t feel like a shithole.
 
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It was either in an interview or her debate. She straight up said if Trump tells you to take it, don't. Biden said he would not take it before the election even if it were the cdc's recommendation. Like I said, there are tons of other people between TDS networks and talk shows and stupid people like that. It's not really arguable, except for with brooke. It was just a statement of stupidity. But no worries, now that it miraculously became Biden's vaccine, the libs are getting it.

There were concerns about Trump approving treatment (pushing his political appointees to approve it) before there was consensus among the experts.

The idea that Liberals didn’t want to take the vaccines once they were approved doesn’t seem to be based in reality. The idea that it had to be ‘Biden’s vaccine’ for them to take it doesn’t seem to be based on reality.

Sorry?
 
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