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Place to put my Nonsense Thread.

Everybody else will be A OK for the rest of their lives, right?

Most likely

Edit: btw, that number was the number of blood clot cases. The number of blood clot deaths was about 3 as of a few weeks ago.
 
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Were you originally a dem?

I was for years. To no surprise I kind of am middle of the road. Things about both parties I tend to like but like most reasonable people I tend to hate both parties for the most part. For years I hated certain things about the right more but I find both sides equally detestable now. I would love to see a legit third party as well.
 
Most likely

Edit: btw, that number was the number of blood clot cases. The number of blood clot deaths was about 3 as of a few weeks ago.
For whatever reason, nothing will shake your trust in manufacturers with zero liability.
 
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If there is something wrong with this vaccine, its very possible we won't know until years from now. I'm not totally against it, but I do have my hesitations. I think that's pretty normal with something this new.
 
For whatever reason, everything scares you.
60-70% of healthcare workers balked at getting the vaccine. Why? B/c becoming a doctor/nurse etc exposes you to real world serious side effects of medications and vaccines. People take prescriptions all the time and don't realize how damaging it can be. There is absolutely educated reasons to want more information before putting stuff in your body.

I mean----I'm certain you read plenty of literature and watched videos before you started gerbiling.

I will admit, a lot of anti vaxxers have super uneducated ways of conveying their position and look really dumb.
 
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If there is something wrong with this vaccine, its very possible we won't know until years from now. I'm not totally against it, but I do have my hesitations. I think that's pretty normal with something this new.

There just haven’t been causal links with vaccines and other serious diseases before. I don’t know why that would start with this vaccine.
 
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60-70% of healthcare workers balked at getting the vaccine. Why? B/c becoming a doctor/nurse etc exposes you to real world serious side effects of medications and vaccines. People take prescriptions all the time and don't realize how damaging it can be. There is absolutely educated reasons to want more information before putting stuff in your body.

I mean----I'm certain you read plenty of literature and watched videos before you started gerbiling.

Except there aren’t
 
I don't think "scared" is the right word, but I do prefer to avoid unnecessary health complications or death when at all possible.

Vaccines don’t seem to expose people to unnecessary health complications or death. So, you should be good, yes?

99.99999% of people change light bulbs without dying. .00001% die. Should we stop changing light bulbs? Unnecessary risk that it is and all.
 
My hesitation is just with the quickness in which they made the virus and the lack of time (seemingly) to test it.

I get the rush, bc of the pandemic, but iT still worries me, warranted or not.
 
Vaccines don’t seem to expose people to unnecessary health complications or death. So, you should be good, yes?

99.99999% of people change light bulbs without dying. .00001% die. Should we stop changing light bulbs? Unnecessary risk that it is and all.
Horrific analogy, unless by changing the lightbulb you mean shoving it up your ass.
 
My hesitation is just with the quickness in which they made the virus and the lack of time (seemingly) to test it.

I get the rush, bc of the pandemic, but iT still worries me, warranted or not.

With computers nowadays, vaccines can be designed very quickly. I don’t have a problem with it taking a few months to design the vaccines. They were able to piggyback off of a decade+ of similar virus research, too.

Tens of thousands of people tested over about a year is enough for the various worldwide health organizations to clear it and enough for me. The experts, those without financial interest in the success of pharma, overwhelming agree the vaccines are suitable and safe. I defer to their opinions.
 
There just haven’t been causal links with vaccines and other serious diseases before. I don’t know why that would start with this vaccine.
The WHO even admitted there were cases of vaccine-derived polio in Africa and India. Why are you lying?
 
We’ve discussed that twice over the years and you lost both times. You want to go in for round 3?
Nice try, but you never made that statement before. You just tried to downplay it.

So the WHO admitted to vaccine-derived polio.....but there's never been a causal link to vaccines and serious diseases? Interesting. How are you spinning this one? Polio isn't "serious?"
 
Nice try, but you never made that statement before. You just tried to downplay it.

So the WHO admitted to vaccine-derived polio.....but there's never been a causal link to vaccines and serious diseases? Interesting. How are you spinning this one? Polio isn't "serious?"

- Vaccine-derived polio is incredibly rare
- It is from oral versions of the vaccine that contain the actual polio virus. No vaccines in developed nations have used active versions of the virus for decades, including the Covid-19 vaccines.
- Vaccine-derived polio doesn’t cause polio in the vaccinated person. It mutates and transmits to unvaccinated people.
- There is no evidence of the polio vaccine causing polio in the person it was administered to.

Now your turn.

1) Show how this relates to the Covid vaccine.
2) Show evidence of vaccines causing serious disease in statistically significant numbers. Going back to the light bulb example, 2 people dying while changing a light bulb doesn’t mean changing a light bulb is life-threatening.
 
Those are really good points, ill probly get it eventually but im in my 30s, have already had covid and was asymptomatic, so its just not much of a priority for me personally.

aka waiting on that ky vaccine lotto
 
- Vaccine-derived polio is incredibly rare
- It is from oral versions of the vaccine that contain the actual polio virus. No vaccines in developed nations have used active versions of the virus for decades, including the Covid-19 vaccines.
- Vaccine-derived polio doesn’t cause polio in the vaccinated person. It mutates and transmits to unvaccinated people.
- There is no evidence of the polio vaccine causing polio in the person it was administered to.

Now your turn.

1) Show how this relates to the Covid vaccine.
2) Show evidence of vaccines causing serious disease in statistically significant numbers. Going back to the light bulb example, 2 people dying while changing a light bulb doesn’t mean changing a light bulb is life-threatening.

There were many incidents of serious effects linked to those vaccines, but there's no point in getting into it again.

There's a reason that the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program exists and a reason why the courts have awarded upwards of 5 billion dollars. I'm sure you'll claim that none of those involved serious injuries though.

Here's what it comes down to. You trust the Covid vaccines because

"Tens of thousands of people tested over about a year is enough for the various worldwide health organizations to clear it and enough for me."

Problem is, those tests tell us nothing about potential longterm effects. Aside from that, there WERE complications in test groups.

Also, some of those trusted experts of yours like Fauci have (as expected) been outed as corrupt, lying frauds.
 
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