Jaxon Kohler is the heir apparent in that department.
6’9 under the rim center, but he has grit and footwork.
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6’9 under the rim center, but he has grit and footwork.
To be fair, the statement was saying he was a 1st team lock and that was before Duane Washington and Joe Wieskamp left. The sentiment was more that it’s possible (and even likely at this point) but not really a lock. Some really damn good players end up 2nd team instead of 1st.
Dickinson was a 2nd team All American in 2021 and still didn’t make the conference 1st team. It wasn’t really a slight on Ivey.
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Only thing I heard was some sort of medical event right at the end of the game. He was taken off on a stretcher and rushed to an ambulance. Sounds like he is doing ok though. Doubt he plays again this season.
The debate was that it was a homer move to think he's a lock for first team.
I completely agree that making first team in this conference can be a bitch. I don't think it's a homer move for someone to say that Ivey - or Liddell, or Dickinson, or Kofi, or TJD - are locks as first teamers.
So you don’t think there is any wiggle room in the 1st team? You think it’s guaranteed to be those 5?
Yea, I know nothing about the kid but was thinking the same thing. We'll see I guess.
Yes, that was clearly the point of my post, that it is 100% guaranteed to be those 5.
When I think of white guys and MSU I think of this lately.
I know they've had some decent ones in the past but I think it's been awhile.
When I think of MSU white guys, I think of dudes like Matt Costello that just hack and rebound.When I think of white guys and MSU I think of this lately.
I know they've had some decent ones in the past but I think it's been awhile.
UM consistently is the most slept on team in the country in the preseason going back ~10 years. Good to see the media is finally correcting themselves, we lose dudes every year and replace them, even more so with juwans level of recruiting.
Some MSU guys seem way too overconfident we’ll get him. I mean we started recruiting hard recently and simply told him “We had Emoni Bates so we stopped recruiting you,” which can be a tough sell for these high school athletes with pretty decent egos I’d imagine. I don’t see him coming to MSU. He would be a good get, I just think offensively he’s better suited for the 4.
I have thought we had a good chance of getting him for quite some time. Tim Anderson is the key. Meanstreets are happy that we hired one of their guys and I think they are looking to make Illinois and Anderson happy in return. Illinois already knew that he was switching high schools and the site I subscribe to has hinted pretty heavily that Rodgers news could come soon. And then today Shaw drops his futurecast, the day after the coaching staff visited Rodgers.
But its recruiting and it could all pivot away from Illinois tomorrow.
Cry about it on the homoboard
It’s the lock term we disagree on. If I told you Hunter Dickinson was a 2nd team All American last year you’d think that would be a 1st team all conference lock. Shit happens.
Still absolutely stunning to me that a guy that seemed like a backup-offer at the time, was
ranked 400+ in his class, was expected to redshirt as a “project big” as a freshman, etc. is one of the players I’m most excited about and could be as dominant of a big as there is in the country when he’s in the game.
I apologize for the run-on sentence & could probably take the time to fix my grammar but I’m so excited about Zach Edey that idgaf.
The whole thing is a silly argument really. No one is a lock besides maybe a guard like a Carsen Edwards in his Junior year, pending health, that is guaranteed just insane usage even if it’s inefficient at times.
I can envision Ivey having a tough couple of games where he presses & his shot is just not going down and because he’s pressing he has a couple of ill-advised turnovers. But man, I don’t see how a healthy Ivey isn’t at least a 2nd team all big ten at the end of the year.
Just has athleticism & ability to score at the rim that you can’t teach.
He didn’t even make an All-B1G team last year and his raw stats are just like Rob Phinisee’s so no way he’ll be good this year. Sorry bub. Inefficient chucker.
Yes. Here’s a good one from today:
“Super high expectations for Jaden Ivey this year. You know it's a lot of hype when even Purdue fans are feeding into it -- they're usually a fanbase of losers who thrive on low expectations and perceived slights by media. I know that he played really well with the USA U19 team and he's being sold as a lottery pick, but his stats from last year are pretty similar to Rob Phinisee's. I'm curious to see what he looks like in one of the slowest offenses in the country this year, as Matt has them walk the ball up the Court for 60 possessions a game.”
Salt intensifies!
Some get too deep in their feelings to understand. When Trevion who was a 1st B1G last year at the end and is 2nd team preseason this year, anything can happen.
lmao. Wow, can't believe NBA teams wouldn't just sign Phinisee as a UFA instead of drafting Ivey. (also, better not tell him that the NCAA champion (Baylor) essentially had the same tempo pace as Purdue, without elite scoring bigs)
To be fair, that part isn’t really that outrageous. In possessions per game the last 3 years Purdue is:
2019: 298th
2020: 318th
2021: 296th
Besides Illinois & Iowa towards the top of the standings:
Purdue, UM. OSU, MD all had very similar pace stats. Purdue isn't an outlier by any means when it comes to good power 5 teams. In fact, besides Iowa & Illinois, the top pace teams in the big ten were all the worst teams. (Neb 35th, Minn 88th, PSU 125, NW 160)
(Wisc 328, MD 321, IU 289, Purdue 278, UM 256, OSU 251, Rutgers 214, MSU 164)
I didn’t say it was necessarily a bad thing to play slow. Virginia is always in the bottom 5, and usually are a top 10 team.
Yep agree.
Again my point is that thinking some of those guys that the media also has in there are going to be first teamers isn’t some egregious homer take.
Purdue will more than likely school everybody in the Big this year. That likelihood coupled with the mind numbing back and forth between Hail and the Illinois contingent has made this easy…a lifetime ban bet (I’m too old to create a new ID or care really) that Purdue wins the Big outright and Ivey is first team …and as an added bonus that IU sucks again. The first two are pretty straightforward… the third isn’t a determining factor and just another opportunity to rag on IU fans.
Being the oldest guy in the thread and making a lifetime ban bet is clever
I got a few years left but don’t want to die before some burning questions are answered. e.g. Does beating the shit out of someone head to head mean anything? I thought, yes it does, but now am questioning my sanity. Beating the shit out of someone means nothing if you don’t also win the lottery. Take the bet - change the trajectory of your life. 😂
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