****Official B1G Off Season Thread****
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Lol Plummer is not better than Miller, and Payne is not a push with the Alphabet. Downgrades across the board.
I mean he’s literally replacing someone who jumped from an even worse conference. And they played each other head to head at the G League tryouts and Jones looked every bit as good if not better than Smith. They literally guarded each other. Small sample sizes of course but nothing I’ve seen leads me to believe Mike Smith to Devante Jones should be a downgrade. (I know you didn’t say it, just answering your question).
May the best man win between sophomore Zeb Jackson and freshman Frankie Collins for the backup PG spot. Having depth there inherently gives us more depth at SG because Eli Brooks can play there exclusively.
Chaundee was a great 6th man but he had zero handle. When Mike Smith sat we had a Combo guard running point and a SF with no handle as his off guard and secondary ball handler. Our guard depth this year should help us avoid that.
Chaundee was a great 6th man but he had zero handle. When Mike Smith sat we had a Combo guard running point and a SF with no handle as his off guard and secondary ball handler. Our guard depth this year should help us avoid that.
Torvik disagrees on both counts. Sorry, troll.
Plummer can handle the ball. Miller couldn't. Plummer shoots better. Plummer defends better according to synergy. What's worse about him?
I don't think he's Mark Alstork. Mike Smith was a special piece for you because he was a fantastic facilitator and he could get hot from 3. Jones isn't that piece. If he's running point after averaging 1.56 a/to in an inferior league, I'm interested to see what that looks like.
Who is replacing Wagner's output?
Pretty sure that's why Franz handled the ball as much as he did in the pick and roll - nobody could really handle the ball that well outside Smith.
You are comparing freshman Miller to senior Plummer. Miller played in the big ten and Plummer played in the pac12.
If we are citing Torvik, then TJD is the best projected player in the Big Ten
Mike Smith was solid but I wouldn’t call him a “special piece”.
Smith a/t ratio in the Ivy League in 2019/20: 1.33
Adam Miller was very bad last year. I think people look at his ranking and think he was a stud. He was a walking turnover, couldn’t finish at the rim, and didn’t shoot well. He played hard and rebounded.
Honestly, I would’ve cared more if Trent didn’t return.
Comparing these two is really splitting hairs but here is Smith at Columbia vs Jones at Coastal Carolina. Smith is a better shooter, Jones is better inside the arc. Jones is a better defender and Smith is probably a better passer. I don’t think replacing one with the other means much either way.
Definitely fair, obviously didn’t watch as much as you. I just thought he was the catalyst...
I doubt Houstan will defend was well as Wagner but offensively I don’t think there’s a drop off there. Bigger drop off between Livers and Johns at the 4 for sure. But that difference can be made up but Dickinson improving from say 14ppg to 17ppg.
Meant it in the sense that you don’t see guys come in and play their role that seamlessly very often.
These were my homeboard projections for scoring back in July. Who actually wins the bench minutes is still a big question. Could just as easily be Williams or Jackson instead of people I listed. Heck Jackson or Collins could still start at PG (doubt it but idk).
I think around 40ppg from the 2-5 is about right though.
Davante Jones 10ppg
Eli Brooks 10ppg
Caleb Houstan 13ppg
Brandon Johns 10ppg
Hunter Dickinson 16ppg
Mousa Diabate 8ppg
Frankie Collins 6ppg
Kobe Bufkin 6ppg
Rest of bench 6ppg
I think around 40ppg from the 2-5 is about right though.
Davante Jones 10ppg
Eli Brooks 10ppg
Caleb Houstan 13ppg
Brandon Johns 10ppg
Hunter Dickinson 16ppg
Mousa Diabate 8ppg
Frankie Collins 6ppg
Kobe Bufkin 6ppg
Rest of bench 6ppg
no I don’t think we score 85ppg as a team but that’s not how PPG works because of missed games
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We’re basketball conference. Only saying that because there’s no football champaign unless the huskers are in town
Their secondary is so damn good.
Iowa will win the big ten this year and probably go to the cfp.
jfc...their egos are inflated enough at this point, but unfortunately i agree. My boys around here are unbearable.
That was his major league debut and he was told late he was going to start due to a late scratch. He’s a stud.
You should probably just worry about Minnesota.Getting out ahead of the PSU beat down tomorrow in remembrance of when IU fans actually thought they had like a top 35 program lmao
Yeah, I did forget you got screwed on the schedule. That might drop you to 6th or 7th but still might be the 5th best team.
It would pretty much be you but with 5 times the number of people saying it.
I will put my foot down here. They’re going to get worked tonight, but I think they could still end up being in that 35ish range at the end of the season. It’s clearly been a nightmare start, but losses to a top 5 Iowa team that has dominated everyone they’ve played and a top 10 UC team that is going to beat ND don’t eliminate them from that range.Getting out ahead of the PSU beat down tomorrow in remembrance of when IU fans actually thought they had like a top 35 program lmao
The Michigan and Michigan State games will be the true gauge of where IU fits in the college football landscape at the micro level. I will note that there’s a pretty considerable drop off as you get to the back half of the top 25. I think they can be a top 30-40 team and still not be very good.
Yes? Miller was streaky and one dimensional. He’ll be better as a sophomore I’m sure, but Plummer can easily replicate his production. He was the second best 3 point shooter in the PAC12. That translates.
And Torvik has Kofi above TJD too. Until TJD can shoot and play with his off hand there are 3/4 bigs that are above him in conference.
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