I actually agree with you, it’s just hilarious you’re citing KenPom
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You’re right, Illinois didn’t have anyone else teams had to gameplan around last year….
I think there’s some undue piling on on your posts, but your minimizing of Ayo leaving is pretty wild.
Not sure why Holtmann doesn’t get more love but it probably works out best that he doesn’t.
Yeah, I’m sure having Ayo on our roster is why teams didn’t target Kofi on the defensive end to get him in foul trouble.
Yikes, bro.
Teams didn’t try that strategize last year?
Ayo was the best player on the team but Kofi was the most valuable based on the rest of the roster. If you don’t think Andre Curbelo will be a star then...
That's been the gameplan for teams ever since he arrived. He's fouled out 1x in his career.
I think he gets a lot of respect, but he hasn't put together a complete roster yet. That's limited him from taking the next step. He inherited a good roster and finished 3rd in conference, then finished 8th, 5th, and 5th. I think he likely finishes at best 4th or 5th again this season, so I think calling him the 5th best coach in conference is pretty fair.
I’m just saying from an opportunity cost perspective it logically doesn’t make as much sense to solely focus on trying to foul out Kofi when they have another all American and top 3 player on the floor.
Like you and other Illini fans have said, he’s faced these tactics before and has been able to stay out of foul trouble. I just think it may be a bit more difficult when he’s the sole focal point of opposing game plans.
I didn’t say a word about UCLA
take a fvcking lap
we lost our best player still made the elite 8
lol Loyola
I hope other teams focus on stopping Kofi. Curbelo will average 10+ apg hitting open shooters.
Your run impressed no one. Congrats on LSU, Florida St, and Texas Southern. Such a big run!
Oregon State’s Elite 8 run was more impressive.
Him being the focal point of our offense instead of being the second option is the only thing that will change.
Defensively we will run the same stuff as the last two years and he will continue to stay out of foul trouble. Teams try him, it doesn’t work.
Is Livers getting drafted higher than Franz? Lol no
Smith and Dickinson were more valuable to your team because brown was way better than their backups. Any way you look at it Livers was not your best player.
Oregon state went to the elite 8.
Nobody cares. Just like no one cares about your run against a couple of nobodies.
Cool
I’ll take livers and his TEAM LEADING SCORING and BEST 3 point shooter you take Mike Smith
Michigan State played a better game against UCLA.
I mean Michigan couldn’t even get to 50 against them. Yikes.
Better hope you get that type of a path again in the next tourney because Juwan can’t coach against teams with similar talent pools.
At Michigan ? Lol no we’re not a TRASH second tier program like Illinois who would DEFINITELY hang an elite 8 banner . Lol at the thought of you guys actually achieving that though
Can I also take Phil Martelli bc he’s one of the few that knows...
Also would led your team in scoring?
If it was so easy maybe Illinois should try it sometime.
4th? Don’t be an idiot. Our top 3 were Dickinson, Wagner, and Livers in some order.
Livers averaged 13 and 6 and 43% from three.
No need for name calling.
Michigan fan extragrates Livers importance and then cites an inaccurate stat.
Good player but not the best.
Oregon State lol
You seem really insecure, maybe it’s because you lost to an 11 seed.
I mean 50 points isn’t really hard to get to…
About 25% of Michigan fans thought Livers was our best player last year. Our big three all had a good case.
Lol inaccurate
take a lap he was our best player that’s why Hunter fell of a cliff when he got hurt because there was no one to space the floor and he kept getting doubled
take another lap
best part about Illinois losing to Loyola was Loyola lost the very next round 🤣🤣🤣🤣 they weren’t even good 🤣🤣
JFC you think you’ve seen it all, but then a potatoe named Gillinois shows up and trashes an E8 run while making excuses for a R32 exit.
yes, Oregon State has made it further in the past 15 years than Illinois has. I agree that’s funny.
He was 2nd on the team in scoring with 13ppg and led the team in 3pt shooting. That’s a huge piece to lose. Maybe we beat UCLA with him, maybe not. But making the Elite 8 without him is impressive nonetheless.
Oregon State made it as far as Michigan, with better wins in the tourney. Lol
Purdue fans lost in the first round to North Texas. And you think Purdue should be a preseason top 10 team lol
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