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Hope everything went well! Thanks for the Benter info.
EVerything went smooth. Doctors seem to think they fixed the problem..
Benter is going to be a really good college player. Honestly, he's an absolute perfect fit for Painter.
His dad was around 6ā2/6ā3 as a senior in high school and grew to 6ā6 in college while playing at Hanover. I would be surprised if Jack doesnāt end up around that 6ā6 height. His dad was also a damn good player, D3 national player of the year and have zero doubts he would have been offered in high school by the IUās and Purdueās at the time if he would have grown sooner.
Jack will end up being a better player than his dad was and the dude couldnāt be coming from a better basketball family (his dad was also my high school coach). Obviously biased in this one but I love the pick up. Think he has a higher ceiling than Cline/Sasha.
Wtf is the Austin American statesman? And who knew powerhouse's miss the 2nd weekend for almost 20 years.
Fighting the good fight for Borden? Laughing
To be fair, it said BIG TEN powerhouse ā¦ and within conference play, weāve been by far the best over the last three years.
In the last 3 years, Maryland, MSU, Michigan, Illinois all have the same number of Big Ten titles. Illinois has been the most consistently good team, but winning it 1 out of 3 times and never making it past the second weekend isnāt exactly by far the best in the conference.To be fair, it said BIG TEN powerhouse ā¦ and within conference play, weāve been by far the best over the last three years.
I hate Michigan, but they have accomplished more than Illinois in said timeframe. Elite 8, Sweet 16, and Big Ten Champs.
Illinois has like 5 more wins in conference than second place and lost a title on a shortsighted stipulation. Itās not that close.
I agree youāve been over the 3 years the team thatās been good for all of them, but saying by far the best for a team that won 1 title in that time frame and didnāt make it to the second weekend once in that timeframe feels wrong when there are teams who have accomplished more.
I would not say Illinois has by far been better than UM, who has accomplished more, over the past 3 years. Have they been more consistent? Sure. But Michigan has the same number of titles as you and has made it further in both tournaments.
Have honestly not seen a fanbase crow over mediocrity as much as this.
Weāve got two titles in the last 3 years.To be fair, it said BIG TEN powerhouse ā¦ and within conference play, weāve been by far the best over the last three years.
When youāve been complete Iowa ass for over a decade you tend to crow over a little success.
He's going to be a very good college player. His ceiling is much hgher than Sasha/Cline---Much higher. I think its a fukin homerun for Painter. Kid fits his system to a "T", and he comes from a great background. Hard nosed, tough defender, can shoot the ball, score from many levels, plays above the rim. If he hits the growth spurt his dad did? Yikes.
I'll catch hell about raving on this kid----that is until 3 years from now when he starts torching IU for the next 4 years....
Isaiah Todd is a bitch. But itās not a bad injury, heās alright.
Heās not injured. Detroit pulled he and Duren out of summer league as a precaution. I think he nicked up his ankle but nothing that would cause him to miss time. Most teams just donāt care about summer league for obvious reasons
I VERY clearly (and jokingly) was referring specifically to conference play, where Illinois has by far the best record and the only team to win both the regular season title and the BTT in that timeframe.
Again, it was mostly a joke responding to the Loosierās stale trolling, lol.
Yeah, as I said, mostly a joke about us doing very well (and being quite consistent) within the conference even without deep Tournament runs, lol. I should get in line and now down to our has-been, unproven IU overlords, though.
Lol, the irony here ā¦ youāre literally cocky because you got a few off-season articles PREDICTING you might be kinda good! š
Michigan has finished 8th and 9th place in conference over that span, won less than 20 games twice, and has lost to Illinois in every single encounter. Thatās a no.
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You serious, Clark?
Iāve watched Indiana fans call their program a blueblood my entire life.
They have more basketball accomplishments though.
Illinois has been the most consistently good team but they are not the most accomplished team the past 3 years.
I would have no problem hearing an argument for Michigan or Wisconsin or whomever as the best program over the last three years; itās always going to depend on what youāre ranking. As you said, within the conference, Illinois has been very consistent and looks to be pretty good again this year with some very young talent. However, they have run into two tough Second Round matchups and couldnāt get it done in March. I do, however, only really consider 2020-21 to be some kind of choke. Houston was underseeded and simply better than us, especially with Trent and Grandison unhealthy.
Is there a difference between saying the best team in a conference vs best team in a tournament?
I've watched everyone call IU a blood blood program my entire life...Analyst, coaches, announcers, historians, etc, etc, etc.....
TBH, its a meaningless title. No bearing on how good you'll be this year, or next, or the next...Just a nice little propaganda, arguing center piece....
Indiana's history is what it is----that'll never change. Are they the elite program they once were? Well, I mean no.....Doesn't take away what they have accomplished over 100+ years. But if we wanna break it down to a 25 year criteria----sure.
With that being said----ready to roll this winter.
I donāt think anyone under 40 calls IU a blue blood. And if they do, itās mockingly.
They had one season with a tournament run, and the had two seasons that were inarguably disappointing underachievements. Illinois may not have made a S16, but that has as much to do with their draws as anything. Iād take their one 3-1 tournament run over ours, but Iām not willing to let such a small subset of games overshadow a much larger dataset.
You might as well wave a white flag and say you agree with my statement. Indiana's success has zero baring on Illinois fans constantly having to put their mediocre accomplishments on a pedestal.
Unfortunately, over the discussed timeframe, the āmediocreā performance of Illinois is the best in conference.
No but again that doesn't mitigate the fact that Illinois fans have been pumping their chest over very little. When you have to start putting caveats like conference win%, disregard tournament results, the past 3 years, etc. Illinois has been better than their putrid results since Bruce Weber inherited Bill Selfs program but that's about it. They may even have something better on the horizon but the chest pumping has become a bit much.
I get it. It sucks watching Indiana trace our steps and hoping that you can topple King Kong.
Deflect deflect deflect. It's ok to admit you and others may have overreacted to some semblance of success but your stubbornness to admit it only validates the insecurity of the Illinois fanbase.
Appreciate the insight. Iāve seen some comments questioning his athleticism but it sounds like youāre not too concerned about it?
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