Oh, context matters now? Weird. You constantly throw out sh*t posts here purposefully ignoring context. Funny to see you crying for people to all of a sudden consider "context" when looking at Painters coaching record.I have no issue with him siding with Izzo/Beilein in regards to post-season coaching. The results are what they are. But context matters and Painter has had some things go against him in his career that's all I'm saying.
This sounds personal. Take your lover's quarrel to facebook, guys.We know dude. You wouldn't let anyone with a Purdue degree even touch you. We get it. You despise anything Purdue. We. Get. It.
Blaire is out of luck. I don't like dudes.This sounds personal. Take your lover's quarrel to facebook, guys.
I agree. But the point still remains that Izzo has the hardware. So "based on results" - Izzo gets the nod.
And the "Izzo has years on him" comment doesn't particularly work, as Beilein is older and has been a head coach longer than Izzo has.
I have no issue with him siding with Izzo/Beilein in regards to post-season coaching. The results are what they are. But context matters and Painter has had some things go against him in his career that's all I'm saying.
And you despise people who do. We get it man. You're a massive homophobe.Blaire is out of luck. I don't like dudes.
I really don't. Just calling a spade a spade. Just admit it man.And you despise people who do. We get it man. You're a massive homophobe.
Judging by how much work you've dug into finding my social media accounts and getting pictures of me, I think it might be you who has some 'splaining to do.I really don't. Just calling a spade a spade. Just admit it man.
Oh 100%. UM should have won it the Louisville year. Kalin Lucas injury killed our chances in the 09 title game. The 13-14 team was elite when healthy but just got decimated by injuries.So have Beilein and Izzo.
I'm more than happy to have the third-best coach in a league that features two HOFers.
Since non conference play is done here are NCSOS rating per Kenpom as of 1/4
1. Purdue-41
2. Wisconsin-63
3. Illinois-66
4. Penn State-82
5. MSU-95
6. Nebraska-150
7. Ohio State-240
8. Indiana-251
9. Minnesota-266
10. Maryland-279
11. Rutgers-287
12. Michigan-300
13. Northwestern-327
14. Iowa-336
Dude, we are talking strictly Big 10. Jesus Gillgan
Update NCSOS and Overall SOS in parenthesis. Its based on Kenpom Gil. So please dont stroke out.
1. Penn State-52(2)
2. Purdue-55(4)
3. Illinois-64(3)
4. Wisconsin-82(6)
5. MSU-95(12)
6. Nebraska-162(5)
7. Indiana-189(11)
8. Minnesota-239(16)
9. OSU-248(20)
10. Rutgers-291(18)
11. Maryland-300(19)
12. Michigan-307(21)
13. Northwestern-316(29)
14. Iowa-333(27)
Made up numbers...Update NCSOS and Overall SOS in parenthesis. Its based on Kenpom Gil. So please dont stroke out.
1. Penn State-52(2)
2. Purdue-55(4)
3. Illinois-64(3)
4. Wisconsin-82(6)
5. MSU-95(12)
6. Nebraska-162(5)
7. Indiana-189(11)
8. Minnesota-239(16)
9. OSU-248(20)
10. Rutgers-291(18)
11. Maryland-300(19)
12. Michigan-307(21)
13. Northwestern-316(29)
14. Iowa-333(27)
With a year the conference is as strong as it is and playing 2 extra conference games will be interesting to see how the committee figures that in.
And I've already pointed out that Izzo has more results, even only including results since Beilein joined the B1G. So you moved the goal posts to "Beilein needed a few years after he took over", which is fine. But results are results.
Even if you want to start in 2012 (4 years after Beilein started at UM, plenty of time to get "his" guys) - Izzo has more B1G regular season titles, more BTT titles, and more NCAAT appearances.
Beilein has 1 more Final Four than Izzo, during that 2012-present stretch. Izzo is 9-7 vs. Beilein head to head since 2012.
2012-present: Izzo has 12 NCAAT wins
2012-present: Beilein has 15 NCAAT wins
None of this a knock on Beilein at all. He's a great coach. You could make arguments for either coach, and Beilein's run to the title game last year made up a lot of ground. Especially since Izzo's last few years have been subpar for MSU standards.
Every single B10 team is in the top 80 of Kenpom. Other power 5 conferences have at least two teams outside the top 100 except the B12 only has 1 team.
Edit: The PAC has 2 teams in the 200s Laughing
Kaleb Wesson is back for the BTT. He’s the heart and soul of the team. Coming off a big Iowa win things looked promising. Then the suspension and horrible play. Coming back from 23 points down to take Wisconsin to OT gave the team some life. What will happen against a very hot Indiana team? Not sure what will happen but I like our chances a lot more today. He has been working hard and practicing with the team since suspended, so he should be in playing shape.
I believe its the reason that IU is in the position they are currently in. Its also why the other major conference will do it.
Compare IUs SOS to others, that is a direct reflection of playing two more conference opponents.
That seems impressive as hell to my dumb brain
And I've already pointed out that Izzo has more results, even only including results since Beilein joined the B1G. So you moved the goal posts to "Beilein needed a few years after he took over", which is fine. But results are results.
Even if you want to start in 2012 (4 years after Beilein started at UM, plenty of time to get "his" guys) - Izzo has more B1G regular season titles, more BTT titles, and more NCAAT appearances.
Beilein has 1 more Final Four than Izzo, during that 2012-present stretch. Izzo is 9-7 vs. Beilein head to head since 2012.
2012-present: Izzo has 12 NCAAT wins
2012-present: Beilein has 15 NCAAT wins
None of this a knock on Beilein at all. He's a great coach. You could make arguments for either coach, and Beilein's run to the title game last year made up a lot of ground. Especially since Izzo's last few years have been subpar for MSU standards.
I really don't. Just calling a spade a spade. Just admit it man.
Damn, homophobic and racist. That's some hardcore hate.
14/6/7/9/11It might be fun for you to see him give it a go, but if your life depended on the team reaching the Elite 8 you'd be picking Izzo or Beilein.
Make sure you virtue signal on a college basketball forum some more today.
That seems impressive as hell to my dumb brain
This board is his cathartic outlet.Damn, homophobic and racist. That's some hardcore hate.
Make sure you virtue signal on a college basketball forum some more today.
This board is his cathartic outlet.
Indiana because they’re a bigger threat to win a game or 2 in the NCAAT. Plus they’ll beat MSU so when Iowa makes the BIG Championship they won’t play MSUWinkingSo if IU and OSU is an elimination game, who does everyone want to win?