A handful of those are just bad stats, though. Do you really think Wagner was better defensively than Jaren Jackson? Not a chance in hell.
Defensive win shares:
Wagner 2.6
Jackson 2.3
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A handful of those are just bad stats, though. Do you really think Wagner was better defensively than Jaren Jackson? Not a chance in hell.
Defensive win shares:
Wagner 2.6
Jackson 2.3
Still upset about your bad take last night? I mean, you just shared a quote that says you don’t have any shooters, like it’s a bad take, the day after IU shot 16% from deep, at home, against the worst team in the league. That’s pretty pitiful, but not nearly as much as logging out of one account and into another to agree with yourself.
Must have a sweet life SNU. How’s that Facebook stock doing for you?
Bro I'm not SNU, your takes are trash. Just like your friend Mkgcbb, you're the only one that agrees with him. They are jokes meant to be laughed at by anyone with a basketball brain.
Purdue looked good last night, big game coming up in a few weeks. That being said there is very few people that take your wrong takes seriously, and rightfully so. Go back to your own board.
Purdue is 6th(37%) in Big 10 in 3 point shooting....IU is 7th(36%)..
Is that what you are bragging about? I mean for a team with allegedly having no shooters, we are pretty much on par with a team that allegedly has a tom of shooters. And this is with Langford, a 38% shooter from "3", in HS, struggling mightily .
Congrats?
Bingo, not to mention Purdue is 30 spots behind IU in defensive efficiency. Starting to look like Purdue's, "defense lives here" moniker is bullshit.
Just got back from a nice two week vacay. Good to see Nitewing taking the noble stand against [checks notes] Tyler Trent.
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Ridiculous, that dude should be celebrated on the highest level. I just lost my grandpa to cancer, I can't imagine how much inspiration he gave to those poor kids dealing with the same thing.
Cheers and hats off to him.
Free throw:
Purdue: 43rd in the country @75%
IU: 309th in the country @64.4%
3 point:
Purdue: #6 in the country in made 3's per game at 10.7
IU: #289 in the country in made 3's per game at 6.4
And with that crazy difference in volume, we're still shooting a better clip (37.2 vs. 36).
Look, IU is better than Purdue. I had IU higher than Purdue pre-season, and thought Purdue would start slow.
But your argument is that Purdue is pretty much on par with IU from a shooting perspective, and that pretty much can't be argued at this point in the season.
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Sorry to hear.
But agree. And he's been doing a lot of great stuff for a long time that wasn't getting publicized.
Yeah lung cancer, ironically because he never smoked in his life. He did like to drink though however.
I'll forever respect what guys like Tyler Trent did because he's an inspiration, and a constant reminder to keep fighting. Some of those poor patients that were watching him need that.
Some of us are soo lucky, we don't even realize how lucky we are.
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Sure it can....So IU doesn't shoot a bumch of three's.....Purdue does. SO b/c you shoot a ton more, you are a ton better? Doesn't really work that way. You guys have taken 403 , three's; 28 attempts per game. I would hope you;d make at least 10. IU on the other hand has taken 247----second least in the conference. Just at 17 a game. I mean almost HALF of ALL your FGA, are three's. Of course you are gonna make more. IU has two players, within the Top, for 3 point shooting; Morgan and Phinisee. I know---they dont take a lot. But they take enough; 31 and 29 attempts. Have another at 20th, in Durham(16-39). So we have three guys, with 99 attempts between them. Making 42% of those. I'll take that.
Again Toast, just because Purdue has made more, doesn't mean they are better. Just means you have taken more.
Wont discuss FT shooting. I'll just get mad.
Overall shooting-----IU leads the Big 10 at 58%. Purdue is 9th, at 55%.
SHooting is more of an argument than you think. IU just doesn't chuck up a bunch of three's...I mean, Cline and Edwards alone almost have more 3PA(244) than IU does as an entire team(247). That's crazzzzzzy.
Anyways, good luck rest of the year, Toast. Good win last night.
Purdue takes a lot of 3s and makes them at a better clip than IU...b/c it's a better shooting team. IU is shooting a worse clip from 3 despite the fact that they're being MUCH more selective from 3.
That's fine -- I'd much rather have IU's team results this year than Purdue's.
But IU isn't some good shooting team that just happens to be 326th in the country in 3 pointers attempted per game, and just happens to be shooting 64.4% from the line. Those are both the results of the fact that they aren't a good shooting team.
They will, this is the scariest MSU team I've seen in years. They are a legitimate threat to win the national title.
Funny how you leave out that IU is shooting 58% overall, and 61% from 2. IU doesn't take a lot of three's, because they don't have to. Purdue takes a lot of three's because you have too. Its one thing to say IU isn't a good free throw shooting team. Its another to say they;re not a good shooting team. The stats don't lie, Toast. IU is shooting 58% overall. Tops in the Big 10. But they're not a good shooting team? I mean, what does attempts have to do with anything? Savannah St has taken 600 three's this year. They have made 171. Now, they have taken more than Indiana....made more than Indiana....So that means they are a better shooting team--EVen though they are shooting 28%? Or.....Or could it mean that's their primary means of offense, thus they are taking more? ANd not because they are good at it(which BTW, Purdue, well CLine and Edwards are good shooters). But b/c, well, its what they have to do. IU has multiple guys who can score off the bounce. We have Morgan and Davis in the post. IU scores off their defense. Purdue is basically Carsen and Cline, shooting three's.
Just because a team takes more and makes more, doesn't mean they are better. Use some advance stats here with IU. They are 6/17 per game from three. Say they took 28 per game as Purdue does....They would be roughly on the same course. It just so happens, IU doesn't need to chuck up damn near 30 three;s a game to win. That's not our fault.
Dude on Maryland's homeboard said Tim Miles is P4P best coach in the B1G. LaughingLaughingLaughingRollLaugh
@JayCo34 get in here and defend this trash take.
@JayCo34 get in here and defend this trash take.
Lol. It was one game. I can provide multiple games where Purdue shot like crap. However, I’m not dumb enough to think that one game is some indicator of longer success/failure. I could have said the same thing after the Ball State game where Edwards and Cline went 3-19. YEEEESH. But again, I’m not an idiot.
Considering Facebook is part of FAANG, I’m doing pretty well, like I mentioned. If I were an idiot like you, I’d point to yesterday and brag how FAANG was up almost 6% and try and give you shit about your comments on FAANG stocks. But again, I’m not an idiot.
Don’t ever change man. You provide too much entertainment. MJ18 2.0! Lulz.
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I would argue it doesn’t necessarily mean Purdue is a much better shooting team. I think they (Edwards and Cline let’s be honest) hit a lot more contested shots. IU doesn’t take too many of those which is why the volume isn’t as high. When we shoot as well as we do from 2pt range, why take a lower percentage shot? The shots IU takes are (typically) open ones. Carsen hits shots with dudes draped all over him along with open shots. That’s the difference to me.
But @proudopete’s whole point is we wouldn’t be any better because we didn’t have any shooters or anyone to replace the production we lost. He even said our defense would be worse than Purdue’s and it wasn’t a question! LOL. His takes are pure hot garbage and everyone knows it.
@hailtoyourvictor this reminds me when proudopete told everyone there is NO WAY IU would have a Top 100 defense a few years ago. NO WAY!
I’m really interested in this game. OSU has played some good teams, but this should be a HUGE test for them. Not sure they can pull it out. I’m guessing MSU gets it done.
It amazes me how some people are so bad at understanding stats or the conclusions they draw from them.
to bad you never learned anything from what your wife did. sorry if I don't get all blubbery over this kid dying, to me is just 1 of 1000's that die from cancer, JFC if I broke down cried every time a kid died from Cancer I would never stop crying.
I agree. No one is even mentioning the Purdue player shooting 88% from three in Big Ten play.
That dude is the freaking GOAT!
TIC
No one is asking you to cry for him. Just don’t denigrate him for trying to leverage his terminal illness for good.
one question how many kids or other with cancer died in the last 24 hours that only the relative, Doctors and nurses know about becaue nobody turned into a media event?
not denigrating him just fed up with it being turned into a media vent all fall during FB games, why not instead why not pay/give more attention to the hospitals that care for these people. is that to much to ask? sorry but my Grandfather died because of Cancer and 2 of my Uncles died from Cancer.
In a thread full of dumb hot takes, that really stands out. Might have locked up dumbest post of 2019 four days in. Impressive
Tyler’s fight encouraged & spurred more donations. He helped raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for cancer research during his short time in the limelight. Even participated with Iowa at a football game for the first quarter wave. The fact that you’re shitting on that is so weird.
Not that this will sway you but Purdue Cancer Research Center and Riley Hospital for Children was mentioned...wild guess....500 times nationwide because TT allowed himself to be used. I can’t imagine how wearing it was to be dying and in pain and going “on tour” to raise funds for those institutions. He did it with grace and amazing insight. Everyone who met him developed a genuine admiration. You need to check yourself on this topic.
Why are IU fans so hurt about this fact? Just because you have a higher overall shooting % doesn’t mean you’re a better shooting team. You guys get to the rim way more than Purdue. You’re really counting Juwan Morgan layups as jumpshots?
Purdue has better shooters on its roster. I don’t get why that’s such a big deal to you guys. Lol. You have the better overall team. It’s no big deal in admitting that. Just like it shouldn’t be that big of a deal in admitting that Purdue is a better offensive/shooting team than IU.
talk to the hand I am done I have stated mine and you have yours, nothing against Trent my beef is with the media.
Purdue has the two best shooters from both teams, but I believe Indiana as a whole is a better shooting team. The numbers reflect that. Just because Indiana's offensive philosophy is to get to the rim and Purdue shoots more 3's negates their %'s.
So the team that has the best 2 shooters, makes more threes per game, shoots a slightly better percentage despite the increased volume, much better from the FT line, and scores just barely more ppg vs a tougher schedule is a worse overall shooting team?
So the team that has the best 2 shooters, makes more threes per game, shoots a slightly better percentage despite the increased volume, much better from the FT line, and scores just barely more ppg is a worse overall shooting team?
Why do Purdue fans keep using total made 3s but shooting % for every other metric?
3pt shooting % for each player in order
IU/PU
1. .452/.444
2. .448/.412
3. .435/.393
4. .410/.385
5. .400/.371
6. .375/.273
7. .333/.250
8. .333/.231
9. .216
Now explain to me how its obvious Purdue is the better shooting TEAM.
IU/PU
1. .452/.444
2. .448/.412
3. .435/.393
4. .410/.385
5. .400/.371
6. .375/.273
7. .333/.250
8. .333/.231
9. .216
Now explain to me how its obvious Purdue is the better shooting TEAM.
Derrick Rose 3 pt %: 46. James Harden 38.9. Clearly Rose is by far a better 3 point shooter......
other than the fact that harden makes 3 more per game than Rose and strictly comparing % without volume/makes per game is just not how stats work.
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