***Official B1G In-Season Thread***
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I just checked 3 big boards and Ware was between 27-32 in all of them. I thought he was projected higher than that considering he showed a ton of improvement and obviously has crazy talent and assumed he was definitely gone. But that rating is far from a foregone conclusion in terms of his future.
This is like the third time I’ve been hit with this in this thread I lurk in over the past couple of years lol.
As far as the three bigs I’d say Ware is gone, Mgbako and Malik are 50/50, so maybe we keep one of those three?
Mgbako might have a draft decision. But if he doesn’t, I could see IU throwing a good chunk of change at him and Malik.
Retain them, put them at the 4 and 5, then focus on getting a good PG and like a 6’7 wing that can shoot and you guys might look pretty skilled pretty quickly. I think Mgbako would make a massive jump from year 1 to 2 if he stays, and Reneau is obviously good.
Mgbako at the 4 and Malik at the 5 with Trey and two good portal guards could be pretty viable but then my fear becomes depth. I just don’t see how this is at all a tourney team next year and how it isn’t apocalyptic with fans in Bloomington by Feb 1.
Beyond the short term, it’s probably best for the program if Woodson is gone, so not making the tourney may be a good thing.*
*Assuming IU makes a good hire for once
I do think that Galloway is a nice Big Ten player (but as a complementary guy, not a featured piece), Mgbako could be a stud, and Reneau could as well...but they need skilled pieces around them. A guy like Mason Gillis at the 4 would be helpful, but you'd still need a PG as well, and depth, like you said.
Still feels like a push just for a lame duck year. But it is what it is.
Yep, he’s widely disliked though some Illinois fans apparently don’t care about his past.
Not really surprising given your program is cheering on a rapist currently.
Can one of you Boilies come get @Boilermaker03 from the IU home site? He seems to be lost.
He isn't convincing anyone to bow down to PU and in fact is hurting your cause.
Dude is freaking annoying.
He isn't convincing anyone to bow down to PU and in fact is hurting your cause.
Dude is freaking annoying.
Ware and Mgbako are doing a kids camp in April in Btown. Last chance to cash in?
I expect Ware to declare and both Mbako and MR to decide over a pile of cash. Rabby is reporting that IU has made it known that they are paying above market for needed skillsets.
I hate the new world.
Honest question: if he does get convicted, how will you react? Would you wish Underwood hadn’t played him? Would be a pretty bad look for the university.
I will be disappointed that one of my favorite Illini ended up guilty of an act like that, but I don’t think there’s anyone with a thorough understanding of the ruling that thinks Underwood should be doing anything differently.
So you think other B1G coaches (or coaches in general) would’ve played their guy instead of sitting him? Not sure I believe that tbh. If the same situation happened at Purdue, I feel confident that guy wouldn’t have played the rest of the year.
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Bruh, there are a lot of good teams in there---You cant just say, "such and such had X amount of losses, and therefore disqualkified…
83 NCSU, 85 Nova and 88 KU--- will concede. BUT....Look at 1985 Villanova. How bad were they, really?
Of their 10 losses----5 of those came to #1 and #2 GTown and St. Johns. By a combined 26 points. MOF, only the BET quarterfinal vs SJU, was decided by more than 7 points. Another loss was to #9 Syracuse; who they also beat. SO I mean 6 of their 10 losses were to Top 10 teams. Finished 4th in the BE----behind #3 SJU, #1 Gtown and #8 Syracuse. Were they one of the Top teams? No. But not my point. Point is, you cant look at number of losses...
1989 Michigan(30-7)---They were ranked Top 5 or so the entire year. Four of their losses were to Illinois and Indiana----Illinois was Top 5-----IU top 10. Michigan was a really good team. Bad example.
1986 Louisville(32-7)----Only one of their losses came via a non-ranked opponent(NC State). They had good wins over Top 15 Indiana, swept a very good, Top 20 team in VaTech, Beat #4 Syracuse...Split with #6 Memhis State. Again, this was a very good basketball team.
1981 Indiana(26-9)---One of the weirdest title seasons ever. But then again, cannot just look at the "L's". Lost to #1 UK, 68-66 and #9 Notre Dame, 69-64, early in the year. Lost @ #6 UNC, 75-68. Then the absolute head scratchers----Clemson and Texas Rio-Grande.. Lost @ #9 Michigan in OT.. @ #9 Iowa by 5.
Then lost at Purdue, then to Iowa; Iowa game would be the last time they would lose. By the end, IU was playing as good as anyone....And dogwalked everyone in the NCAAT; closet game was vs UNC in the title game; 63-50.
Cant judge by loses....
I would nto argue anyone above that I mentioned would have been considered a "title favorite, or contender, sans 1986/89 Louisville. Both those teams were pretty damn good.
Ware-NBA.
MM---hes gonna test for sure. I'd say he waits and see's. I don't feel he's back tbh.
MR---80% gone.
I think Shannon is a tremendous player and I think his jersey should be hung in the rafters. If he gets convicted of rape then that all goes away and he will be remembered as a blight.
I will never blame Underwood for playing him as the injunction was quite clear in its wording that if we treat him any differently because of the charges then the university would face massive lawsuits from Shannon.
My question to you…what are your feelings if the charges get dropped? Will you feel bad that he’s had to go through all of this crap because of a girl and her friends enjoy trying to get KU players into binds so that they can get paid? KU knows all about this girl and her friend…possibly why she targeted Shannon this time, a non Jayhawks player.
Shannon has been stripped of national recognition and it’s quite possible that none of it is his fault. If it is his fault…throw his ass in jail.
Please stop with the Boilermaker holier-than-thou attitude.
The school is not a fvcking Seminary.
Maybe before NIL. But when a judge says him not playing is costing him $$$----I mean......Illinois . by not playing him, could have set themelves for a HUGE lawsuit. I mean the school was court ordered to play him. They made the decision to suspend him----ANd he took them to court.
Not sure hos this falls into Illinois choosing anything other than to suspend him....but then decided it was best to abide by a courts order.
God damn am I a sports posting genius or what. NIT games are so much easier on the nerves to watch. I might have had my first drink in 4 years if Iowa made the tourney, won their first game and had a finish like against Tennessee a few years back where we rallied to force OT and came up just short of sweet sixteen. Now no booze and no bad vibes lingering for next candlyflip sesh.
All 3 could come back or atleast should. Ware would disappear at times, more physical teams gave him fits. Mgbako got better but feel he can improve his stock quite a bit. Not sure why Reneau would leave or where he'd go. I'd go 25%,50%,75% on coming back.
Iowa can't stand for our basketball attendance. We use to kill it.
Now it's the Iowa women, wrestling, and football that sellout. Basketball costing us money will not stand. It can't financially and I am ok with Fran.
But money talks
Now it's the Iowa women, wrestling, and football that sellout. Basketball costing us money will not stand. It can't financially and I am ok with Fran.
But money talks
Ok....We shall see. Its no secret he and Woodson haven't seen "eye to eye" in the past month, or so. They had their little rift, and then weel later, LM----Renau's friend, same HS----then decommits. Why?
Kids wanna win also, bruh.
Sparks, Gunn, Banks are just the start.
Ok....We shall see. Its no secret he and Woodson haven't seen "eye to eye" in the past month, or so. They had their little rift, and then weel later, LM----Renau's friend, same HS----then decommits. Why?
Kids wanna win also, bruh.
Sparks, Gunn, Banks are just the start.
They would have been advised by the university’s legal departments that they could not alter the way they played him because of the charges. That was the federal ruling. There’s not a coach in the country that would be able to lawfully bench him.
We’ve been down this road. If you want, I’ll pull up the post from a federal law professor laying it out.
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