Whatever you need to do to compartmentalize Juwan having more tournament wins as your entire program over the past 15 years.
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Whatever you need to do to compartmentalize Juwan having more tournament wins as your entire program over the past 15 years.
Juwan Howard in two tournaments: 5 wins
Illinois basketball in 15 years: 4 tournament wins
Solid
I dont think I’ve whined about any calls from that game and certainly not that play.
Who cares about late Weber years and John Groce? About as relevant as the decade plus where you guys were complete garbage before Beilein. (Neither is relevant.)
Underwood has underachieved in one NCAA Tournament - 2021. In 2022, he lost a Second Round game with a banged up roster to a team who was favored. We’ll see what happens this year, but that’s pretty much the story here, not this persistent historical trend you paint it as.
I also think this weird fascination with the Sweet Sixteen is bizarre, lol. Sure, I would always love to go further in March but I would not trade last year’s Big Ten championship for one extra Tourney win. This year, since we just won the conference last year, I might feel differently.
Whenever you guys want to shit on Juwan I’ll remind you he has won more tournament games in two years than your entire program has in 15 years. Deal with it.
Where did anyone shit on Juwan before you made your comments?
Your lil man syndrome is in full effect this weekend.
I said nothing screams deep tournament run like Brad Underwood.
JayCG got offended by that and tried to shit on Juwan.
I reminded you guys that Juwan has more tournament wins in 2 years than your entire program in 15.
You’re welcome for the recap.
You’ll enjoy the thread more if you don’t feed the troll. Enjoy your Sunday night, bro.
So you made the first comments, what a surprise.
Hope everything is alright for you at home right now because you’ve been acting real real sensitive.
It’d be one thing if he was trolling, but dudes just been in his feelings.
You should stop trying to insert yourself into everything Illinois.
Worrying about teams like Ohio and Arizona St is more your speed
And yet nothing screams deep tournament run like Brad Underwood. What’s his deepest tournament run?
That’s a good thing right? Nothing but swishes.First time catching Maryland this year and we haven’t hit the rim yet on any 3 point shot.
I’ve missed the last 7 due to hunting all weekend.You don't want to see another 5 pages of this
Did you write off Jay Wright, Tony Bennett, or Scott Drew because they didn’t go to Sweet 16s in their first couple years?
To be fair, don't think anyone thought Drew should have gotten Baylor deep early after the mess he inherited.
Did you write off Jay Wright, Tony Bennett, or Scott Drew because they didn’t go to Sweet 16s in their first couple years?
Not the same. But same ballpark forsure. Go look at the roster if you are having trouble remembering.
Disagree respectfully- remember, first year Drew was at Baylor, they couldn't even play OOC games.
We had 2 usable players in the rebuild from that first year. Frazier and Da’monte Williams.
Complete overhaul.
Different from what Baylor faced....
Will say this- Illinois looked great this weekend..
Wright, Bennett, and Drew all reached a sweet 16 as coaches in their 40s. Brad Underwood is 58. It’s a weird comparison.
Players are what matters when rebuilding programs, everything else is a distant second.
I’d agree.
I picked him to show there isn’t a uniform way to judge coaches based on what they inherit.
Scott Drew is 52 years old and made his first Sweet 16 (Elite 8, actually) 12 years ago.
Brad Underwood is 58 years old and has never made a Sweet 16.
It’s just a dumb comparison all together.
Why would age matter?
Jay Wright just retired at 60 and Underwood will likely coach until he’s 70 or 75.
Jay Wright coached at Villanova from age 40 to 60.
Underwood could coach from age 53 to 73 at Illinois.
20 years is 20 years at a school.
