*****Official B1G In Season Thread*****

[IUfanBorden]

We'll see how he does a month from now. Bet he scores 8 or less.

Or he might not even play.....

Also, I wouldn't take that bet if I were a fan of either team. Rob is a dude that has the ability to be the Rob he was vs Purdue first time around----He also has the ability to lay a big ass egg.

He could could score 2.....he could score 20. Really, no in the middle with him----He's either really good/solid, or just sucks complete ass.

 

[IUfanBorden]

That’s kind of my point. Their schedule is very backloaded. Their best (and only) good win is @wis.

And the games are all at home....Wisky, Illinois, Indiana and Purdue.....@ OSU is their only road game vs the current Top4-6.

I'd take 8-2 right now, with games vs Wisky, IU, Illinois and Purdue at home.

 

[1016CC0503]

It’s funny, because I feel the same about your takes. Maybe there is some bias involved in our views/takes?

So far my avatar bets I’m looking at an easy 4-0 with the remaining 2 up in the air.

Caleb Houstan is at 35.6% from 3, I have 35 and below, Hail has 36 and above.

And my other one is with you and Illinois is going to be somewhere between 10 and 15 next week.

Safe to say I’m confident on my takes.

 

[jwardelt]

And the games are all at home....Wisky, Illinois, Indiana and Purdue.....@ OSU is their only road game vs the current Top4-6.

I'd take 8-2 right now, with games vs Wisky, IU, Illinois and Purdue at home.

Home don’t mean shit. MSU has several losses coming their way.

 

[pig1960]

Sloppy, chaotic, physical, hectic-----other than that, not a bad game.. 🤣 🤣

I’ll direct this long post to you Borden. There are a few here that think it’s funny that I’m an old - do the math 2022-1960 = 61/62 (I’m 61). I’m a Hoosier with the inbred love of basketball- ABA, NBA, HS and college-best game in the world IMO. Also the son of an IHSAA official who traveled the state from end to end in the 60’s watching his dad ref - including a SRO crowd at New Castle when Benson was there. Watched Billy Keller and Rick Mount at outdoor tournaments at Franklin. Saw the best of Knight, Keady etc. The 75 and 76 IU teams were the best college basketball teams I’ve ever seen - they were a machine yet to be duplicated. I get tired now of the stats, # of stars etc. That’s what I like about Painter - build a team. Not surprisingly Painter was Knight guy and I believe he took the best of Knight and left the worst. I’m very happy to have him at Purdue - I’d give him a lifetime contract. I think IU made a good choice with Woody/ I actually enjoy watching them play for the first time in years. No real point here other than I can relate to your passion - it’s not a video game and a damn sight harder to put a team together and win than people understand.
Ps **** IU

 

[pig1960]

I don’t recall you ever welching.

I am guilty of a faulty memory. Hoping Ivey gets first team and Purdue wins - believe it or not I’ll miss you if I’m banned. But I’m also high right now. 😂

 

[boiler1987]

Lol yes, the guy shooting 55% from the field and who has scored more points than Morton on the year even though he’s played 145 less minutes. And he’s a better defender on top of that.

Galloway, even with 144 less minutes, has still taken 4 more field goals than Morton because IU’s offense isn’t good.

Calling Morton a poor man’s Galloway is laughable. I’ll give you Galloway being a better defender but that’s about all I’d give him over Morton.

 

[B1G_Fan]

So far my avatar bets I’m looking at an easy 4-0 with the remaining 2 up in the air.

Caleb Houstan is at 35.6% from 3, I have 35 and below, Hail has 36 and above.

And my other one is with you and Illinois is going to be somewhere between 10 and 15 next week.

Safe to say I’m confident on my takes.

Those aren’t your only takes. Our bet is about Illinois finishing top 10 in the final AP poll. They are a long way from accomplishing that.

Your takes on Payne were poor. Your takes on Stewart/Kopp not being good shooters were poor. You stated that Illinois and Gonzaga would be the top 2 teams this year. You said Mike Woodson wouldn’t land a 5* in the 2022 or 2023 class while Underwood would land multiple. Woodson landed JHS in 20222 (the guy you said would fall outside the top 50), and we have a decent shot at another in 2023. Underwood doesn’t have one in either class.

You didn’t earn your Gillinois title with solid takes.

 

[GOO_HAM]

So far my avatar bets I’m looking at an easy 4-0 with the remaining 2 up in the air.

Caleb Houstan is at 35.6% from 3, I have 35 and below, Hail has 36 and above.

And my other one is with you and Illinois is going to be somewhere between 10 and 15 next week.

Safe to say I’m confident on my takes.

Technically isn’t Hail winning his bet or is it a push

 

[1016CC0503]

Technically isn’t Hail winning his bet or is it a push

Push right now.

35-36% neither wins.

 

[B1G_Fan]

Galloway, even with 144 less minutes, has still taken 4 more field goals than Morton because IU has a shitty offense.

Calling Morton a poor man’s Galloway is laughable. I’ll give you Galloway being a better defender but that’s about all I’d give him over Morton.

You have to be joking. Galloway is shooting 68% inside the arc. For reference, Edey is shooting 70% and Williams is shooting 56% inside the arc.

Absolutely no one outside of the Purdue realm would take Morton over Galloway.

 

[1016CC0503]

Those aren’t your only takes. Our bet is about Illinois finishing top 10 in the final AP poll. They are a long way from accomplishing that.

Your takes on Payne were poor. Your takes on Stewart/Kopp not being good shooters were poor. You stated that Illinois and Gonzaga would be the top 2 teams this year. You said Mike Woodson wouldn’t land a 5* in the 2022 or 2023 class while Underwood would land multiple. Woodson landed JHS in 20222 (the guy you said would fall outside the top 50), and we have a decent shot at another in 2023. Underwood doesn’t have one in either class.

You didn’t earn your Gillinois title with solid takes.

Our bet is far from over, remember when you wanted to call it over when Illinois lost to Cincinnati?😂

Payne looks poor so far. His college career is far from over.

Stewart/Kopp??? I think you got the wrong guy on that one, never said anything about them.

I said Illinois would be on that level with Kofi returning AND an impact 4 transfer. Didn’t happen, thus it’s impossible to predict.

JHS still isn’t a 5 star on any site. He’s improved over this season, but I have the same worry I had about Houstan last year. His HS team is amazing and covers up a lot of individual weaknesses. His 3-PT shot still needs a lot of work.

KJ Evans isn’t going to Indiana if that’s who you are talking about.

Illinois is in a dead heat with Arizona for Kylan Boswell, an actual 5-star.

You aren’t very good at this.

 

[IUfanBorden]

I’ll direct this long post to you Borden. There are a few here that think it’s funny that I’m an old - do the math 2022-1960 = 61/62 (I’m 61). I’m a Hoosier with the inbred love of basketball- ABA, NBA, HS and college-best game in the world IMO. Also the son of an IHSAA official who traveled the state from end to end in the 60’s watching his dad ref - including a SRO crowd at New Castle when Benson was there. Watched Billy Keller and Rick Mount at outdoor tournaments at Franklin. Saw the best of Knight, Keady etc. The 75 and 76 IU teams were the best college basketball teams I’ve ever seen - they were a machine yet to be duplicated. I get tired now of the stats, # of stars etc. That’s what I like about Painter - build a team. Not surprisingly Painter was Knight guy and I believe he took the best of Knight and left the worst. I’m very happy to have him at Purdue - I’d give him a lifetime contract. I think IU made a good choice with Woody/ I actually enjoy watching them play for the first time in years. No real point here other than I can relate to your passion - it’s not a video game and a damn sight harder to put a team together and win than people understand.
Ps **** IU

Reading this, your a dude I'd love to talk with , here some stories, etc, etc....I think I recall you telling me before your dad was an official....Did he ever work college ball, or just strictly HS?

I like Painter----always have. He's been snake bitten in terms of making a FF, or even possibly winning a Natty. He has one hell of a team this year, and is slowly/methodically building a "monster: so to speak over the next few years. Had some hiccup seasons between the Elite 8 team, and last year of course. BUT, his teams are damn near always a facotr in the B10; I believe only he's only finished outside the Top 4 of the conference 5 times? Really he's just missing some March success---but that is slowly starting to come-- 3 SW 16's and Elite 8 past 5 seasons... ANd TBH, I think there is one stretch that may have gotten his ass in hot water at Indiana----2012/2015---tough stretch there. That 16-18 and 15-17 seasons in succession may have been his undoing if at Indiana....But who knows.

And you are right---Painter loved Knight and IU----big fan. But never got an offer. BUt in fairness, that was an era where Indiana was really, really good, and extremely strong at this position...

I love the rivalry....Love the game.....And love it when the games are competitive....But I also like the occasional 97-60 ass whooping as well....Best times of this rivalry where, and probably always will be Knight/Keady. BUT, you can see it maybe getting close with Woody----Sit is personal with him, and he gets it.


BTW----$%^%$ Purdue...

 

[boilerzz]

I mean turning the ball over 3 out of 10 times isn't the end of the world. WOuld you take a 7 assist, 3 turnover night, every night?

26% is terrible. There are currently 89 B1G players that qualify according to KenPom (40% of minutes). Galloway doesn’t qualify but if he did, he’d be 86th.

And hell yeah, I’d take 7 assists with 3 TOs but that’s not Galloway. He’s got a barely 1 to 1 ATO.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Galloway, even with 144 less minutes, has still taken 4 more field goals than Morton because IU’s offense isn’t good.

Calling Morton a poor man’s Galloway is laughable. I’ll give you Galloway being a better defender but that’s about all I’d give him over Morton.

If I had to choose between the two, I'd take Galloway....Just thinh he's tougher, better defender, better IQ, and possibly just as athletic. Galloway is that dude that you'd never pick at the park, but then he gets on the floor, and never loses. I like both---but for overall game, I'd take Trey...

 

[B1G_Fan]

Our bet is far from over, remember when you wanted to call it over when Illinois lost to Cincinnati?😂

Payne looks poor so far. His college career is far from over.

Stewart/Kopp??? I think you got the wrong guy on that one, never said anything about them.

I said Illinois would be on that level with Kofi returning AND an impact 4 transfer. Didn’t happen, thus it’s impossible to predict.

JHS still isn’t a 5 star on any site. He’s improved over this season, but I have the same worry I had about Houstan last year. His HS team is amazing and covers up a lot of individual weaknesses. His 3-PT shot still needs a lot of work.

KJ Evans isn’t going to Indiana if that’s who you are talking about.

Illinois is in a dead heat with Arizona for Kylan Boswell, an actual 5-star.

You aren’t very good at this.

Actually, I don’t remember trying to call it over after that loss (even with how embarrassing it was). Reminds me of how you tried to make fun of me for thinking IU would get to 13 wins about a month ago….

Payne’s college career is about to be 3/4 over. It’s very close to being done.

JHS is a 247 composite 5*. At a minimum he is Curbelo.

Your comment on Evans gives me even more hope given how wrong you have been in the past. Looks like it will come down to Oregon, Texas, and IU.

Your insiders don’t seem confident in getting Boswell. That actually might mean you have a good chance consider their history of poor takes.

You THINK you are good at this.

 

[B1G_Fan]

26% is terrible. There are currently 89 B1G players that qualify according to KenPom (40% of minutes). Galloway doesn’t qualify but if he did, he’d be 86th.

And hell yeah, I’d take 7 assists with 3 TOs but that’s not Galloway. He’s got a barely 1 to 1 ATO.

Would you take Morton or Galloway?

 

[B1G_Fan]

If I had to choose between the two, I'd take Galloway....Just thinh he's tougher, better defender, better IQ, and possibly just as athletic. Galloway is that dude that you'd never pick at the park, but then he gets on the floor, and never loses. I like both---but for overall game, I'd take Trey...

Galloway is 10x more athletic than Morton.

 

[IUfanBorden]

26% is terrible. There are currently 89 B1G players that qualify according to KenPom (40% of minutes). Galloway doesn’t qualify but if he did, he’d be 86th.

And hell yeah, I’d take 7 assists with 3 TOs but that’s not Galloway. He’s got a barely 1 to 1 ATO.

Again, a stat this needed is turnovers given,that wasn't a result of your actions, i.e. guy cutting wrong, good pass that someone bobbles, it gets stolen, or even a offensive foul(count as turn overs). Its not like he's being overwhelmed, bad ball handler, cannot handle pressure, or is in over his head. Sometimes he gets crazy, and does some shot tht you are like, "WTF"???

Plus/Minus, turnovers percentage per this or that, are numbers, that sometimes have no merit. Who are you on the floor with----was the turnover on you, or was it the result of someone not being able to catch an easy pass---or running the wrong play, route, cut, and you throw the ball where they should have went, but didn't.

I like the eye test....Numbers are flawed, to some extent. A 26% turnover rate is terrible---I agree. But what is the story behind it?

I wll say this----this team isn't as good w/o Trey, and it showed.

 

[1016CC0503]

Actually, I don’t remember trying to call it over after that loss (even with how embarrassing it was). Reminds me of how you tried to make fun of me for thinking IU would get to 13 wins about a month ago….

Payne’s college career is about to be 3/4 over. It’s very close to being done.

JHS is a 247 composite 5*. At a minimum he is Curbelo.

Your comment on Evans gives me even more hope given how wrong you have been in the past. Looks like it will come down to Oregon, Texas, and IU.

Your insiders don’t seem confident in getting Boswell. That actually might mean you have a good chance consider their history of poor takes.

You THINK you are good at this.

Lolz you tried getting me to call the bet sometime in November/December. Seemed very desperate honestly.

Payne is a RS sophomore with 2 more years of eligibility. Hardly done.

A composite 5-star that isn’t a 5-star on any individual site? Weird. Sounds more like a flaw in the system more than anything else.

Boswell was going to stay west coast up until recently, apparently he watch Plummer of all players and loved the freedom he got to hoist 3’s. Arizona or Us, not optimistic though.

Double or nothing on KJ Evans added to our current bet? I will take the field.

You are tedious, and nothing if not consistent. It’s too bad that consistency just happens to be how wrong you are.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Galloway, even with 144 less minutes, has still taken 4 more field goals than Morton because IU’s offense isn’t good.

Calling Morton a poor man’s Galloway is laughable. I’ll give you Galloway being a better defender but that’s about all I’d give him over Morton.

Meh----Its not great, explosive, or what not----but its also not an offense really geared to score 80ppg----and to be fair, Woody is a defense dude. If you are a Top 15 defense, you don't need an elite offense to win games.....With our defense, more often than not, we are gonna have a chance every night out. Plus, the ability of this team to score, is there...Very good shooter in Parker...Obviously Trayce. Race is coming along. X facilitates , but does avg 10ppg. WE just run a very methodical offense----and I'm ok with that....There are a couple of dudes that I think Woody would help offensively, that just haven't---Kopp/Bates. But make no mistake, those two are capable of dropping 20 on you.

I wouldn't say the offense isn't good---I would just say its not what IU hangs it hat on. We do have 3 dudes that can get buckets----X, Race and TJD----another who is capable of hititng 6, 7 or 8 three's on you. Its an offense that with our defense, is just good enough.

 

[boiler1987]

You have to be joking. Galloway is shooting 68% inside the arc. For reference, Edey is shooting 70% and Williams is shooting 56% inside the arc.

Absolutely no one outside of the Purdue realm would take Morton over Galloway.

What does Galloway do inside the arc aside from lay-ups? It’s not like he has a mid-range game or a jumper.

Plenty of non IU-Purdue people would take Morton over Galloway.

 

[boiler1987]

Galloway is 10x more athletic than Morton.

Sure he is!

 

[boiler1987]

If I had to choose between the two, I'd take Galloway....Just thinh he's tougher, better defender, better IQ, and possibly just as athletic. Galloway is that dude that you'd never pick at the park, but then he gets on the floor, and never loses. I like both---but for overall game, I'd take Trey...

Where does the better IQ come from though? Morton is one of the highest IQ guys I’ve seen at Purdue in awhile.

 

[B1G_Fan]

Lolz you tried getting me to call the bet sometime in November/December. Seemed very desperate honestly.

Payne is a RS sophomore with 2 more years of eligibility. Hardly done.

A composite 5-star that isn’t a 5-star on any individual site? Weird. Sounds more like a flaw in the system more than anything else.

Boswell was going to stay west coast up until recently, apparently he watch Plummer of all players and loved the freedom he got to hoist 3’s. Arizona or Us, not optimistic though.

Double or nothing on KJ Evans added to our current bet? I will take the field.

You are tedious, and nothing if not consistent. It’s too bad that consistency just happens to be how wrong you are.

I don’t believe that to be accurate. I’m sure I shit on Illinois for losing to a shit team though. I feel very good about that bet. You have a very tough stretch coming up.

He has played 3 full seasons now. The only way he takes a 5th year is if he takes his Covid year. Not sure why you would want him honestly. Regardless, his college career is more than halfway over.

He’s top 25 on ever site. You said he would fall out of the top 50.

So how many 5* are you going to end up with in 2022 and 2023? You started by saying multiple… now it looks like you are backtracking to not being optimistic about even 1.

Why would I take a bet on KJ Evans right now? It looks like a 3 team race. I don’t have any knowledge that one team is ahead of another.

Gillinois gonna Gillinois.

 

[B1G_Fan]

Sure he is!

Now you post a video of Morton’s athleticism.

 

[B1G_Fan]

What does Galloway do inside the arc aside from lay-ups? It’s not like he has a mid-range game or a jumper.

Plenty of non IU-Purdue people would take Morton over Galloway.

Floaters and dunks? What does Morton do inside the arc?

 

[boiler1987]

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Now you post a video of Morton’s athleticism.

You know that’s a dunk that the vast majority of college basketball guards can make right? And weren’t you the one giving us shit for posting videos of our commitments doing more impressive dunks than that one?

 

[boiler1987]

Floaters and dunks? What does Morton do inside the arc?

He doesn’t. He nails 3’s.

 

[B1G_Fan]

You know that’s a dunk that the vast majority of college basketball guards can make right? And weren’t you the one giving us shit for posting videos of our commitments doing more impressive dunks than that one?

I agree. Now post Morton doing it. Shouldn’t be an issue as he has 3” on Galloway.

 

[B1G_Fan]

He doesn’t. He nails 3’s.

Haha he’s made 9 3s on the year. No one would take Morton over Galloway outside of Purdue.

 

[boiler1987]

Haha he’s made 9 3s on the year. No one would take Morton over Galloway outside of Purdue.

You forgot “in my opinion.”

 

[boiler1987]

I agree. Now post Morton doing it. Shouldn’t be an issue as he has 3” on Galloway.

 

[B1G_Fan]

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Lol that rim grazer? Looked like Sasha’s dunk earlier this year.

 

[1016CC0503]

I don’t believe that to be accurate. I’m sure I shit on Illinois for losing to a shit team though. I feel very good about that bet. You have a very tough stretch coming up.

He has played 3 full seasons now. The only way he takes a 5th year is if he takes his Covid year. Not sure why you would want him honestly. Regardless, his college career is more than halfway over.

He’s top 25 on ever site. You said he would fall out of the top 50.

So how many 5* are you going to end up with in 2022 and 2023? You started by saying multiple… now it looks like you are backtracking to not being optimistic about even 1.

Why would I take a bet on KJ Evans right now? It looks like a 3 team race. I don’t have any knowledge that one team is ahead of another.

Gillinois gonna Gillinois.

We have a tough stretch, true. We also have the best record while being without Kofi for 2 games and Curbelo for much more than that. I think we’ll be fine.

Payne will take his 5th year unless his plan is to stop playing anywhere… Bigs usually improve as upperclassmen, not sure why he couldn’t.

Again he isn’t a 5 star. And I actually said I thought he was closer to 50th than to 20th. (Not sure why you are immune to context. Are you just a liar or do you actually not remember?) Anyways he looks to me to be right in the middle of our original opinions, somewhere in between 30-35th national.

Our staff is slow playing a majority of the recruits in ‘23 we are after because they like our ‘22 class that much. Boswell would be a take but that’s far from over.

I’d say we get 1 or 0 5-star’s between the next 2 classes unless something crazy happens. So the same boat as Indiana.

 

[Fighter of the Nightman]

I hope you spend hours looking for something that never existed.

Curbelo has been poor in every game he’s played except 1. Frazier’s numbers are worse than XJ’s.

With Kofi back, you may be decent. Without him, you will be awful. You would be losing 5 of your top 6 players.

Why are posters here so desperate for Illinois to just suddenly be “awful”?? Lol. We will literally not be “awful” next year no matter what. Period.

Not defending Gillinois’ takes, but Jesus Christ. About time you all accept this - the past THREE years - isn’t some flash in the pan. It’s a return to normal.

 

[B1G_Fan]

We have a tough stretch, true. We also have the best record while being without Kofi for 2 games and Curbelo for much more than that. I think we’ll be fine.

Payne will take his 5th year unless his plan is to stop playing anywhere… Bigs usually improve as upperclassmen, not sure why he couldn’t.

Again he isn’t a 5 star. And I actually said I thought he was closer to 50th than to 20th. (Not sure why you are immune to context. Are you just a liar or do you actually not remember?) Anyways he looks to me to be right in the middle of our original opinions, somewhere in between 30-35th national.

Our staff is slow playing a majority of the recruits in ‘23 we are after because they like our ‘22 class that much. Boswell would be a take but that’s far from over.

I’d say we get 1 or 0 5-star’s between the next 2 classes unless something crazy happens. So the same boat as Indiana.

Lol you are such a clown. JHS is a top 25 player. This is according to real recruiting professionals, not wannabes like yourself.

Laughable that you think Underwood is slow playing 2023 recruits.

How many top 30 players will you land between the two classes? IU has one, is in a very good spot with another, and is in the top 3 for a top 5 player (sounds about like where you are with Boswell).

 

[B1G_Fan]

Why are posters here so desperate for Illinois to just suddenly be “awful”?? Lol. We will literally not be “awful” next year no matter what. Period.

Not defending Gillinois’ takes, but Jesus Christ. About time you all accept this - the past THREE years - isn’t some flash in the pan. It’s a return to normal.

That’s what IU fans thought during the Cody Zeller years. Kofi is your Cody Zeller. Well except for the fact that we actually won the Big Ten and made two S16s with Zeller.

 

[IUfanBorden]

Where does the better IQ come from though? Morton is one of the highest IQ guys I’ve seen at Purdue in awhile.

Its just my opinion....Coaches son, who seemingly always makes the right pass, play, doesn't get himself in toruble...Its a subjective opinion, and not a slight----Hell for all I know, Morton might be a fukin basketball genius---I dunno. What I have seen, I just feel Trey's "feel" for the game, always seemingly being whre he needs to be---seeing shit develop well before others....

I just thnk thats one of ZTrey's biggest strengths...

 

[1016CC0503]

Lol you are such a clown. JHS is a top 25 player. This is according to real recruiting professionals, not wannabes like yourself.

Laughable that you think Underwood is slow playing 2023 recruits.

How many top 30 players will you land between the two classes? IU has one, is in a very good spot with another, and is in the top 3 for a top 5 player (sounds about like where you are with Boswell).

30-35 IMO, you don’t have to agree with my opinion. Just like I don’t have to agree with every professionals opinion.

I laughed at Landers ranking when he reclassified, and Im sure you would’ve had the same emotional response to my thoughts on him as well.

And yes, Underwood is. I don’t think he is “in love” with any of the recruits we were after other than Boswell and JJ Taylor (who won’t go to college due to grades, unfortunately). I honestly don’t know if he would take a commitment from any of our other targets at this point… Maybe Asa Thomas or Akil Watson, but I don’t even know there.