How about discussing a college juniors high school ranking? Very Gil-esque.
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How about discussing a college juniors high school ranking? Very Gil-esque.
1st I questioned him on how he ranks players, as for TJD struggling against 5's is those 2 came to mind 1st. even players like OSU's Wesson he will be out muscled, same with Cook if he had returned, at 6'9 210 lbs he will struggle against 6'11 + 245 lb+ 5's. he is a perfect 3/4 player, with his weight and height.
this is where the real coaches will play him to utilize his height and athletic ability to the teams best needs.
tell you what why don't you walk into Archie office and tell him no you demand that TJD CAN only play the 5 since you know more than the coaches that played TJD at the 4 long before he committed to play College BB.
I was going to mention that too but I’ve already slandered the “Brunk is tearing it up in offseason workouts” so I left that part alone.
Yep. Everyone grows at least an inch, expands their game, matured mentally and physically, & tears it up in their workouts in the offseason over a span of 5 months.
You forgot packed on 20 lbs of muscle. Or lost 30 lbs of baby fat.
I can't speak for Bossi or his AAU coach, but I can assure you that his high school coach knows he's a 5, and that he will primarily be a 5 in college.
How are you not comprehending this? People inside the basketball program are literally telling IU media that TJD will be backing up the 5.
Stick to talking about what you know... Iowa's basketball rankings on ESPN.
Loses more than a 5-star FOY 2nd-teamer and a stud senior do it all guy like Morgan? I think you're underestimating a bit. I just don't see anyone on your team that I look at and think "he's going to give us fits."
I think you're a year away.
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I see a bunch of guys that averaged less than ten a game and struggled to score last year.
Four of his 6 teams at Dayton had a Top 50 AdjO per Kenpom. Two of those were Top 30. Its not his offense----Its the guys he's had executing the offense. Miller's had a rough two years. Injuries and transfers have played a role. Lets see where this(offense) stands after he gets a recruiting cycle through.
No he doesn't have a great offensive scheme. But its good. Look how many open shots IU has missed....Even 5-10 footers. SHots were there. IU just couldn't make them. I mean he can't make shots for them.
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You mean losing a 2nd teamer and an honorable mention. A 2 guard that shot 23% from 3 and a 6’6 center.
Its called forming your own opinion...Just because we on here don't agree with the "experts", doesn't mean we think we are "experts". It just means, well, we don't agree. I have to say though----I do find it odd you defending these "experts". I mean these are the same dudes you chastise for their rankings of Iowa players.
Weird.
They won more than 12 games I know that. Curious, who do you think finishes higher, Illinois or Indiana?
Dude....C'mon, now. IU lost 32 ppg, 14 rpg and 4 apg with those two. I mean so what Langford shot 23% from three. He still dropped 16.5ppg. So what if Morgan was 6'6"---Dude still dropped in 15 and 8. Brushing off the losses of Morgan and Langford is just silly. Those are huge losses.
You mean, ummmm.....Like you? You bitch about Iowa players rankings all the time...
Any dude who wouldn’t want to add an inch is a liar. Plus haven’t you heard I like fat chicks with big asses. I feel like micro peens don’t do well with them.
Illinois definitely has more talent on the team. Who does Indiana have that's better than Giorgi, Frazier, or Ayo?
You know who killed us both games we played you? Morgan and Langford. Phinisee did the second game too. He's going to be a solid player going forward, but you lost your difference makers.
You mean your two best players. Don't feed me those cherry picked stats. No one around here is that dumb.
Who is your stud? I can't look at your team and say he's third team big ten or better. You'll need that to finish top half and it isn't there.
Yeah he is poo-pooing the losses of Langford and Morgan, yet ranked us 13th for losing our two best players as well. Then he calls Gabe Kalscheur and Daniel Oturu average players, yet they both averaged double digits a game as Freshmen, which is more that any returning player for Indy.
I'm not so sure.
Yea, the losses are significant. I don't think they'll be bad, but I don't see much improvement either. I just want to see how he justifies putting Indiana where they are, and he can't answer that.
Agreed. I think TJD will be good in time but don’t expect him to have near the instant impact that Romeo had.
That’s tough because I don’t know how many mpg either will play. For Newman, it depends on how good Proctor/Hunter/Stefanovich are. I think Newman will play but idk if it’ll be 10 minutes a game or 20+. If TJD backs up Davis/Brunk, how many minutes does he play? I’d prob say TJD if I had to pick one simply due to the fact he’s a near 5* guy. I do think Newman will have a bigger impact than Franklin though.
If I had to guess, I think the order of most minutes will likely be TJD, Newman, Franklin.
I think both Franklin and Newman have a clearer path to PT than TJD, but TJD has the talent to be more effective. I do believe that this years Indiana class could be better than a lot of people initially thought.
Iowa had 1 player add a inch and 1 that shrunk a inch. go figure that a 18 or 19 year old can't still be growing. or that in HS Coaches added a inch or 3.
as for me ripping these people my complaint is on where their ranking ended up not WHERE they were ranked at. not what position they played, big difference.
it going to be interesting watching a 6'9 210 lb kid go up against 6'11-7-2 true centers that out weigh him be at least 35+ lbs.
in mt opinion he does not look like a kid that can put another 35+ lbs on him.
Iowa fans kept saying that Cook was a 5 @6'9 255 lbs and yet he is/was a 4/PF.
ONE question has Archie or any of Indiana's coaches come out publicly and stated that TJD is going to play the 5 or will be the 5?
as for me ripping these people my complaint is on where their ranking ended up not WHERE they were ranked at. not what position they played, big difference.
it going to be interesting watching a 6'9 210 lb kid go up against 6'11-7-2 true centers that out weigh him be at least 35+ lbs.
in mt opinion he does not look like a kid that can put another 35+ lbs on him.
Iowa fans kept saying that Cook was a 5 @6'9 255 lbs and yet he is/was a 4/PF.
ONE question has Archie or any of Indiana's coaches come out publicly and stated that TJD is going to play the 5 or will be the 5?
Wouldn’t surprise me at all. Still a lot of question marks though which makes it hard to predict.
Its been stated by scouts that watch practices and talk to the coaches that TJD is not yet able to play long stretches of minutes at the 4. He doesn't yet have outside game to do so. Now thats not saying he can't or won't play along side Brunk or Davis but just because they're playing together doesn't mean he's playing a 4. His game has been stated as being 15ft and in, he's much more comfortable and effective at this point in his career around the basket. I'm not comparing TJD to a SR Morgan but morgan was effective playing against bigger players. Guys without the size and length will have to play differently against those 7footers. They will need footwork to move from one side of the lane to the other and use their quickness against the taller/bigger defenders.
so none of the coaches have come out and stated that TJD is a 5 but in fact the scouts that talked to the coaches stated that he is a 4.
also Cook didn't have the consistant range out past 7', played around the rim BUT was a 4/PF and not a 5/C.
not everybody needs to shoot 3's to be successful. in the video I watched he did hit a few 3's so he can shoot from outside the arc, now its just a matter of gaining a consistant shot out beyound the arc.
but its just a matter of how you want to look at it. my opinion is he will be better off playing the 4 and time at the 3. the 3 he can use his athletic ability and length to create mismatches.
